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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I don't remember Thog ever using a gender-changing belt, let alone in that strip.
    Sorry, two strips later for Thog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarthalion View Post
    Sorry, two strips later for Thog.
    Oh, I getcha now. I don't think that was referring to Thog using the belt, i think that that Thog offering meta commentary that he enjoyed the subplot when Roy did.
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    Sorry, two strips later for Thog.
    Pretty sure that's just Thog forgetting he's not supposed to remember scenes he wasn't in.

    He's not exactly good with that sort of things.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    I guess it can be interpreted two different ways then... :)

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    By all means, do not let us take your headcanons away.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Oh, I getcha now. I don't think that was referring to Thog using the belt, i think that that Thog offering meta commentary that he enjoyed the subplot when Roy did.
    This makes more sense
    Because Thog is afraid of girls. They have cooties.
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    IIRC, Gimli is mostly afraid of Fangorn, rather than all forests. And I can't blame him. A forest full of trees that might just try to kill you if the local Ent is not around to stop them? Yeah, scary place.

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    Right, which makes the extrapolation to "Dwarves hate all trees" even more absurd.

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    Vampire Durkon spacing out after becoming free-willed is eerily similar to his final moments of existence. I wonder what was going on in that head.

    Also from #907, basically everything Nale says in the third row ended up being true: vampires have a transitional period of absorbing all memories until the host soul becomes dormant (and siding with the Linear Guild actually would have helped, since he wouldn't have needed to absorb so many memories at once to impersonate Durkon), vampires are their own evil counterparts ("And that's who I am. Your worst day personified."), he drinks the blood of his former friends, and he makes thralls of his own. Perhaps the workings of vampirism was one of the things Malack taught Nale (first panel) or he had been obsessively researching them for as long as he wanted to slay Malack, since apparently the information does exist out there despite its obscurity.
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    Damn it! Now I have to rewrite the script for #917.
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    Right, which makes the extrapolation to "Dwarves hate all trees" even more absurd.
    Enmity betwen dwarves and trees thing is came from the rivalry between Aulë and Yavanna.
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    Z actually has pretty much nothing similar to Drizt Do’Urden. He really shouldn't even be considered a parody. Z's class and alinement are different, their characters and motivations are nothing alike. Z wielded scimitars at one point and that's about it.

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    Did you miss that their names are anagrams of each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Did you miss that their names are anagrams of each other?
    I didn't miss that, but that is pretty much the only thing that is directly connecting those two characters.

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    There is a dragon or wyvern picture on Redcloak's popcorn.

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    In Start of Darkness, the leaders the Dark One assembled were possibly the then-rulers of Nowhere, Somewhere, and Anywhere. One greatly resembles Eugene, so that's presumably the King of Nowhere since the Greenhilts can be mistaken for Nowhere royaty. The other male head of state has the same colour palette as the current King of Somewhere.
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    I never noticed that the King of Somewhere was wearing a monacle! I always assumed it was an old scar or an odd tattoo.
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    Minrah accepting that Durkon is not evil, makes more sense when you remember she heard what the team had to say about him.
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    Tarquin constantly switches which hand he's carrying his glass with, but always drinks with the left hand.

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    Tarquin constantly switches which hand he's carrying his glass with, but always drinks with the left hand.
    Also you can see there is less wine after each sip

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    Near the climax of Don't Split the Party, Vaarsuvius gets in the tangle with the Ancient Black Dragon because V was "so arrogant as to assume that you had not made any enemies," and near the climax of the next book, V helps take out the Vector Legion because Tarquin was so arrogant as to assume that he had not made any enemies.

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    Z actually has pretty much nothing similar to Drizt Do’Urden. He really shouldn't even be considered a parody. Z's class and alinement are different, their characters and motivations are nothing alike. Z wielded scimitars at one point and that's about it.
    That's part of the joke. He is a parody of the idea that Drizzt is the standard that all N/PC tries to emulate, regardless of how far fetched.

    He's clearly taking advantage of it. Think Haley asks if Dark Elves aren't evil (while the LG are acting Good) and the reply is "no the whole PC race are really good aligned rebels".

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    That's part of the joke. He is a parody of the idea that Drizzt is the standard that all N/PC tries to emulate, regardless of how far fetched.

    He's clearly taking advantage of it. Think Haley asks if Dark Elves aren't evil (while the LG are acting Good) and the reply is "no the whole PC race are really good aligned rebels".
    Okay, that make some sense.

    On the completely unrelated topic: Durkon mentioned that he wants to be buried next to his father (and his grandfather and his greatgrandfather and his....), but technically there is no body in the grave.

    "As far as church concerned, those are his remains", but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laze View Post
    Okay, that make some sense.

    On the completely unrelated topic: Durkon mentioned that he wants to be buried next to his father (and his grandfather and his greatgrandfather and his....), but technically there is no body in the grave.

    "As far as church concerned, those are his remains", but still.
    And somewhere, some how, Durkon's father and mother are still holding hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Torath View Post
    And somewhere, some how, Durkon's father and mother are still holding hands.
    You can see the hand of one of Sigdi's soldiers pulling her away by the shoulder. That's why she didn't die with Tenrin.

    Edit: It is the dark-skinned blonde.
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    I'd noticed one or two of them before, but I didn't put together that each of the dinner party companions, immediately after being raised, say something that speaks to what they do with their second chances at life:

    -Thirden does, indeed, go finish his bard training.
    -Shirra does, in fact, end up owning the copper mine;
    -We know Kandro trained Durkon in his use of hammer and shield, so presumably he himself got weapons training so he could head into (and eventually die in) battle;
    -The unnamed lady dwarf who says her family line almost ended with her has a son, Logann.

    Hoskin is the only one that doesn't say anything specific, but the only thing Durkon tells us about him is that he kept Durkon on the straight and narrow. (Also, Thirden tells us he's asked Sigdi to marry him numerous times.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    I'd noticed one or two of them before, but I didn't put together that each of the dinner party companions, immediately after being raised, say something that speaks to what they do with their second chances at life:

    -Thirden does, indeed, go finish his bard training.
    -Shirra does, in fact, end up owning the copper mine;
    -We know Kandro trained Durkon in his use of hammer and shield, so presumably he himself got weapons training so he could head into (and eventually die in) battle;
    -The unnamed lady dwarf who says her family line almost ended with her has a son, Logann.

    Hoskin is the only one that doesn't say anything specific, but the only thing Durkon tells us about him is that he kept Durkon on the straight and narrow. (Also, Thirden tells us he's asked Sigdi to marry him numerous times.)
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    So we know Nale really wanted to get out of his father's shadow, right?

    That explains a bit why he hates Elan too; he saw too much of their father in him, and it probably doesn't help that he looks a LOT like him too.

    Which probably explains why he got that pissed at Julia suggesting he shave off his beard - he very well might have grown one intentionally to look different.

    Also, the clothes that Tarquin are wearing strongly resemble the ones Nale wears during the "date" with Haley, minus the sash - so those were probably his old dress clothes when he was still with the Empire.

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    So, it is possible that Redcloak was acting as a father figure for Right Eye, until he grew up. I doubt someone else would caretake a random goblin child. If that's the case, that adds to the ending.

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    So, it is possible that Redcloak was acting as a father figure for Right Eye, until he grew up. I doubt someone else would caretake a random goblin child. If that's the case, that adds to the ending.
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    Right-Eye is his brother, not a random child.
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    Right-Eye is his brother, not a random child.
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    Of course. I meant there is no reason for anyone other than Redcloak to raise Right Eye. Right Eye would be a random goblin child for anyone else, other than Redcloak

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    Also, the clothes that Tarquin are wearing strongly resemble the ones Nale wears during the "date" with Haley, minus the sash - so those were probably his old dress clothes when he was still with the Empire.
    What I hadn't noticed about that strip is that Amun-Zora's city is the Free City of Doom.

    Meaning that, when you think of the adjectival form (i.e., Azure City => Azurite, Empire of Sweat => Sweaters), Amun-Zora and her people are Doomed.



    And what I hadn't noticed until I started typing out this comment is that the Sweaters' name has a hilarious double meaning.
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