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2019-01-09, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
Also, Goblins story is already written. The plotting was over once the comic switched to colour.
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2019-01-14, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
Last edited by Agi Hammerthief; 2019-01-17 at 02:43 AM.
* my emphasis
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2019-01-16, 04:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
i'm sure some small things have changed / could change as time goes on. For example if we assume that Fumbles needs to escape the terrors of McScaryville and the original story was written so that he leaps over a fence and falls on top of Minmax, but then it's decided that it would be more interesting if Fumbles found an armory and proceeded to kickasso his way through McScaryVille and to freedom. likely breaking all but one piece of equipment on the way out.
same point A and B, but different path to get there. Not sure if that has happened or will happen, but i could see it.Avy by Thormag
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2019-01-16, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
Iirc, Ears was supposed to die at the war camp. But I can't find where I read that, years ago.
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2019-01-17, 05:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-21, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
New comic is up.
SpoilerNot sure what the point of this "twist" is, but ok.Last edited by Gift Jeraff; 2019-01-21 at 12:40 AM.
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2019-01-21, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-21, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-21, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
SpoilerOh wait, it's because Forgath's prophecy involves being killed by another dwarf. Obviously not this poisoning because of the lack of screaming, but obviously we are now meant to speculate it might be her.
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2019-01-21, 05:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
Been some time since I've quit reading this, been thinking of getting back to it. Is the story really coming to an end, as the title implies?
Last time I've read it, I remember Chief has been dead already, but not much beyond that. Can anybody gI've me an objective, spoiler free opinion... Is it still good? It's been going for a long time now... has the comic jumped a shark already? Or are we still waiting for that to happen?Adrie, half elven bard. Drawing by Vulion, avatar by CheesePirate. Colored version by Callos_DeTerran. Thanks a lot, you guys.This place is not a place of honor…no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here… nothing valued is here."There will come a day so dark you will pray for death. On that day your prayers will be answered."Book of shadows, book of night, wake the beast and banish light.
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2019-01-21, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
If there was a shark to be jumped, I think it was with how dialogues are made, since there have been a few times in which they felt rushed (today too). Otherwise, everything as usual, if you ask me.
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2019-01-21, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-21, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-01-21, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
I find the twist kinda stupid. It may very well be the whole killed by a dwarf part as a sort of "Haha! You thought the prophecy meant kore, but it really meant THIS!" sort of thing. I can see the process to bring him back involving lots of screaming as well for example.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
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2019-01-21, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
It might be that Bunny and DimMax start screaming at each other, while Forgath attempts to agonize.
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2019-01-21, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
the comic as a whole isn't coming to an end. the title is in reference to something Thunt said when the current arc began. That we would be sticking around with Forgath and co until that story arc's "shocking conclusion".
Doubt the current page is said "shocking conclusion"Avy by Thormag
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2019-01-21, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
What in the world is this pacing? In three strips we had "Thunt's homebrew race has whatever powers he wants them to, including reviving themselves at will," "I am suddenly dying, trust me, I feel it despite showing no physical traits," "I am not an Elf, I am a Dwarf, your family is my rival. The readers of the comic had no way of knowing this information."
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2019-01-21, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
Well to be fair, it is HIS homebrew race :P We've seen them do some pretty intensive things when it comes to healing too, replacing limbs, copying souls, etc. So it's not too out there i don't think.
"I am suddenly dying, trust me, I feel it despite showing no physical traits,"
Central pannel; No scar on left eye-patch. last pannel, scar on left-eye patch
Pannel 5 and onward; you can see a small bubble right over the scar on the eye-patch
Pretty much every panel; Bubbles grow larger and more abundant, bubbles appear on both shoulders, forehead, by 4th-last panel he's just covered in those small bubbles everywhere.
"I am not an Elf, I am a Dwarf, your family is my rival. The readers of the comic had no way of knowing this information."
Yeah... i'll give you that. Not sure what the point of that was, other then maybe an excuse to give him the poison flower. feel like it's not supposed to be a HUGE twist though, definitely not "there have been billions of worlds" level at least.
Will say those last two panels look kind of awkward. not horrible though.Avy by Thormag
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2019-01-22, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
If you quit shorty after Chief's death, you missed some of the best parts of the story; the Well of Forever arc around Dies Horribly and the Maze of Many storyline are among the best and most concise parts of the story. After those, however, the quality of the story has plummeted sharply; it is now an incoherent mess lacking pacing and direction, with loads of contrivances shoehorning plot points in.
The problem is not so much that it is a homebrew race. Rather, traits and abilities for the race get revealed repeatedly after those traits have had an effect on the story, thus making it feel like they get invented to justify what is happening on that page. None of the things Kliks do would be a problem if it had been established well beforehand. But bringing these powers up right as they are needed is. It turns them into a deus ex machina race which is used to enable sudden plot twists that wouldn't be possible otherwise.What did the monk say to his dinner?
SpoilerOut of the frying pan and into the friar!
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2019-01-22, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
* my emphasis
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2019-01-22, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
There was no reason to introduce a poisonous-only-to-dwarves for that. Besides, D&D dwarves are supposed to be greatly resistant to poison, which makes chinroot even more gimmicky.
If the purpose was "actually, Idle is the dwarf of the prophecy" then she didn't need to kill him with poison. She's got experience practicing gruesome suicide, she should have been hardened enough to offer an "I'll make this quick and painless" way out.
Speaking of "toxic-only-to-the-poison-resistant-race", are we going to get another dumb twist where the flower doesn't work on Forgath since he's now considered to be a klick?Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2019-01-23, 02:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-24, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-25, 12:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-25, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-25, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-01-26, 04:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
If this was really how Forgath's story ends then there would be no narrative reason for him to not just be killed by Kore on the bridge. It shouldn't be that hard to introduce the Klik resurrection method in a different way. I also have a hard time believing Bowst, Idle, and/or Ward will have an impact on the larger story and an even harder time believing they would do so without Forgath leading them to the larger story (which means he would have to live long enough to do so if Thunt wanted any of them to be important.)
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2019-01-26, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
wasn’t Dies klick gone with the wind?
I mean: turned to dust and blown away.* my emphasis
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2019-01-26, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Goblins XVII: The shocking end of the story arc
According to this it doesnt take much to make it happen. If Dies saved so much as a handful as a sort of memorial then they could probably get it done back at the klik gathering area easily enough. Im not saying it will happen, im just saying that its possible.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."