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2018-10-17, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
The way the prestige classes from Tome of Battle work/progress is a little peculiar to me. Each prestige class has certain levels at which they grant you a maneuver known, a maneuver readied, or a stance, whereas other systems (spellcasting, meldshaping, binding, invocations) just give you a "+1 as if you gained a level in a base class" kinda thing, which I think works much smoother. Is there a particular reason for initiating classes not doing this?
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2018-10-17, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
It makes them available to non-initiator classes and allows for finer tuning of the advancement progression.
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2018-10-17, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
Some classes (Master of Nine!) grant more stances or maneuvers known than you would get from advancing in base class.
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2018-10-17, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
The most important part is the interaction with the 1/2 IL advancement for non-initiator classes. If the IL boost gained you manuvers and stances no matter what, it would be insane not to always multiclass into an initiator for any martial class (even initiators). The free progression towards gaining higher level access on non-initiator classes means it can't function quite so cleanly as a fully divided progression like spellcasters have.
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2018-10-17, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
Many PrCs give a palette of disciplines which are not identical to any base class disciplines.
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2018-10-17, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
Legacy Champion and Uncanny Trickster can advance initiator classes!
Also, on a vaguely related topic: I've seen it argued that PrCs advance initiator level 1/1 unless stated otherwise, based on this:
Originally Posted by ToB p.39
Q: How do you determine if a prestige class adds 1/2 per prestige level to your initiator level (from Tome of Battle), or if it counts your full prestige class levels for your initiator level?
A: A prestige class only adds 1/2 its levels to your initiator level unless it specifically states otherwise. Currently the bloodclaw master, deepstone sentinel, eternal blade, jade phoenix mage, master of nine, ruby knight vindicator and shadow sun ninja are the only prestige classes that add their full level to a character’s initiator level.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2018-10-18, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
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2018-10-18, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2018-10-18, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
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2018-10-18, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] Martial Initiator Prestige Classes
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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