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    No one's convincing anyone, but I find the debate still fairly amusing.

    So for the sake of argument, could we say that maybe they didn't kill everyone on Alderaan, because maybe that's wasn't actually the planet they were at, and it was all just a bluff?

    Maybe nobody did die!

    Oh, wait, didn't Yoda say something about a bunch of people being snuffed out?
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    No he didn't.
    Well...he did it, once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    No one's convincing anyone, but I find the debate still fairly amusing.

    So for the sake of argument, could we say that maybe they didn't kill everyone on Alderaan, because maybe that's wasn't actually the planet they were at, and it was all just a bluff?

    Maybe nobody did die!

    Oh, wait, didn't Yoda say something about a bunch of people being snuffed out?
    Yoda wasn't introduced until Empire Strikes Back. That was Alec Guinness as Obi wan Kenobi. Maybe it's about time to watch the movies again?

    I can't believe the discussion shifted in this direction, seems kinda disturbing, honestly.

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    Yoda wasn't introduced until Empire Strikes Back. That was Alec Guinness as Obi wan Kenobi. Maybe it's about time to watch the movies again?

    I can't believe the discussion shifted in this direction, seems kinda disturbing, honestly.

    Sometimes it is best to let sleeping goats lie.
    Oh, right. Yea, it's been a while since I saw those movies. Are they on Netflix?

    I'm totally on the "nobody died on Alderaan" camp now, though, because now I know, it wasn't Alderaan at all. But they did snuff out a whole random planet for giggles.

    I mean, after all, who has time to go all the way the Alderaan? Must have been a border rim planet. Hence why nobody really cared about it. After all, Alderaan pays a lot of taxes, and death stars aren't cheap, you know? Even if they manage to make a new and bigger one every movie... (no wonder the galaxy is running out of space fuel)
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    So Alderaan is the new Gallifrey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    I mean, after all, who has time to go all the way the Alderaan? Must have been a border rim planet.
    Oddly enough, Alderaan was the only planet shown in the original version of original trilogy that was not in the Outer Rim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    Oddly enough, Alderaan was the only planet shown in the original version of original trilogy that was not in the Outer Rim.
    Funny story, I was looking into Star Wars scenery to see if I could try to recreate any for backgrounds, and I noticed that (almost certainly due to the advent of CGI) the Prequels had way more setting changes than the OT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Funny story, I was looking into Star Wars scenery to see if I could try to recreate any for backgrounds, and I noticed that (almost certainly due to the advent of CGI) the Prequels had way more setting changes than the OT.
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    Would be funny if the princess was merely acting like she was shocked while really thinking "that's not Alderaan, that's the moon commonly mistaken for Alderaan".

    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Funny story, I was looking into Star Wars scenery to see if I could try to recreate any for backgrounds, and I noticed that (almost certainly due to the advent of CGI) the Prequels had way more setting changes than the OT.
    There are a few things you can give earnest praise to the prequels for, and sets and planetary settings are definitely in there. Podracing is also in there, even if it was just a literal copy of The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix animated movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordaedil View Post
    Would be funny if the princess was merely acting like she was shocked while really thinking "that's not Alderaan, that's the moon commonly mistaken for Alderaan".



    There are a few things you can give earnest praise to the prequels for, and sets and planetary settings are definitely in there. Podracing is also in there, even if it was just a literal copy of The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix animated movie.
    I think you mean Ben-Hur, which predated the Norwegian film by sixteen years. Although I guess it's it's possible that the direct inspiration came from The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix, which in turn came from Ben-Hur; a quick Google search doesn't turn up anything definitive on that front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Funny story, I was looking into Star Wars scenery to see if I could try to recreate any for backgrounds, and I noticed that (almost certainly due to the advent of CGI) the Prequels had way more setting changes than the OT.
    Yeah; I assume with the overhead of moving equipment/crew to physical locations, they wanted to get their money's worth out of the footage.

    In a related note, The Clone Wars CGI had a fondness for establishing shots.
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    And a corresponding number of W I P E S.
    And thus came the "swipe left/right" generation. XD
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    Because it was strip 40, where the Order was still supposed to wander the dungeon forever and the current story wasn't really a thing yet.
    I am in total agreement with you there, but about that quote from Rich...

    Any chance we could get a compilation book based on those jokes he mentioned? :smallbiggreen: I loved the first book and would love to see some more of jokes like that. Yo see them in the new art style would make me positively giddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    I think you mean Ben-Hur, which predated the Norwegian film by sixteen years. Although I guess it's it's possible that the direct inspiration came from The Pinchcliffe Grand Prix, which in turn came from Ben-Hur; a quick Google search doesn't turn up anything definitive on that front.
    You know, given George Lucas' filmatographic background(as a movie nerd prior to making Star Wars I mean), I reckon he was more inspired by Ben Hur (given the desert-wise setting, it also makes more sense) it was just a common critique in newspapers here around the time, so it got stuck in my head as the truth.

    I wish we'd know for sure though, my mine gripe was mostly that it went uncredited and people claiming it was wholesale original. (which I guess I've been firmly set straight on with condition of Pinchcliffe Grand Prix now )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordaedil View Post
    You know, given George Lucas' filmatographic background(as a movie nerd prior to making Star Wars I mean), I reckon he was more inspired by Ben Hur (given the desert-wise setting, it also makes more sense) it was just a common critique in newspapers here around the time, so it got stuck in my head as the truth.
    I think the question is more between then 1925 and the 1959 versions of Ben-Hur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordokai View Post
    I am in total agreement with you there, but about that quote from Rich...

    Any chance we could get a compilation book based on those jokes he mentioned? :smallbiggreen: I loved the first book and would love to see some more of jokes like that. Yo see them in the new art style would make me positively giddy.
    Check Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales.

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    Check Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales.
    Well played good sir I totally forgot about that one.

    Guess that saves me time and money, which is great by any extent of imagination

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    I briefly skimmed the thread and my understanding is that Vaarsuvius raped everyone on Alderaan, but we didn't see it because Rich regrets ever having written Surtur eating castles.
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    I briefly skimmed the thread and my understanding is that Vaarsuvius raped everyone on Alderaan, but we didn't see it because Rich regrets ever having written Surtur eating castles.
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    Well played good sir I totally forgot about that one.

    Guess that saves me time and money, which is great by any extent of imagination

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winthur View Post
    I briefly skimmed the thread and my understanding is that Vaarsuvius raped everyone on Alderaan, but we didn't see it because Rich regrets ever having written Surtur eating castles.
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