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    Default Delving though the Dragon Magazines

    so, i'm joining a campaign and the DM is allowing us to to use every published book and every dragon magazine. Naturally i want to play my favorite class, the Archivist, but I also want to use my favorite feat, the Mother Cyst. So my initial character concept is mostly there. However, there's a lot of Dragon Magazine content and I was wondering if there's anything specific out there you'd recomend I read in order to best take advantage of this opportunity?

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    What sort of Archivist do you intend to play? That might inform some suggestions.

    Or are you just after gold Dragon Magazine spells?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivionsmurf View Post
    What sort of Archivist do you intend to play? That might inform some suggestions.

    Or are you just after gold Dragon Magazine spells?
    Because the mother cyst works best out of combat, itd be best to focus on Urban activities and such, so I'm mostly playing the Archivist for the dark knowledge stuff and access to whatever necessary magic i need to get the job done. I plan on getting the Knowledge Devotion feat at 3rd level because of this.

    I'm looking to play an evil mastermind, working their way through the churches to spread his influence

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    Sounds like you need Drawmij's Instant Death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotflungwok View Post
    Sounds like you need Drawmij's Instant Death.
    can't find it exactly, but it sounds like a joke spell

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    Drawmij's Instant Death (Extermination) Level: 8
    Components: V
    Range: Infinite
    CT: 8 segments
    Duration: Instant.
    ST: None
    AE: Special
    Explanation/Description: When this spell is cast, Drawmij, wherever he is and whoever he is, dies. He dies immediately, without even a saving throw. As this spell has been around for some time, it is safe to assume that Drawmij is getting pretty sick and tired of it.

    Dragon magazine, #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotflungwok View Post
    Drawmij's Instant Death (Extermination) Level: 8
    Components: V
    Range: Infinite
    CT: 8 segments
    Duration: Instant.
    ST: None
    AE: Special
    Explanation/Description: When this spell is cast, Drawmij, wherever he is and whoever he is, dies. He dies immediately, without even a saving throw. As this spell has been around for some time, it is safe to assume that Drawmij is getting pretty sick and tired of it.

    Dragon magazine, #144
    yeah, this is a lvl 1 character, not possible.

    On a more specific note: are there any Dragon Mag templates that give -1 LA? I checked with my DM and I can't use the Necropolitan until after I already start the campaign and get enough xp to start it

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    I do not believe there are any negative LA templates other than Incarnate Construct, Dragon or otherwise.

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    yeah, this is a lvl 1 character, not possible.
    It also doesn't help that it's a 2e spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkathellar View Post
    I do not believe there are any negative LA templates other than Incarnate Construct, Dragon or otherwise.



    It also doesn't help that it's a 2e spell.
    this makes it really hard to build a Primordial Giant at 1st level then. because the lowest Giant you can play as is +1 Half-Giant

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    while not neccessarily built for your character ( i think) there is the Spark (Magic) Blooded template that is LA +0 in Dragon 306, p65

    +2 CHA, -2 WIS
    lose your special vision if u have any and gain/replace w/ lowlight
    +2 to Know-Arcana and Spellcraft
    some SLA's at CL=character level 1/day: detect magic, Nystul’s magical aura, Nystul’s undetectable aura,and read magic


    necropolitain is the only one i know of that can bestow a negative level, most LA is either 0 or higher, not negative. there are templates that will cut CR in fractions, like Skeleton which can cut your CR in half, but that's only useful to monsters, not pc's
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathbymanga View Post
    this makes it really hard to build a Primordial Giant at 1st level then. because the lowest Giant you can play as is +1 Half-Giant
    From a purely mechanical perspective, if you could find a way to bump a warforged up to Large, then apply Incarnate Construct, then apply Primordial Giant, that'd be legal-ish.

    I think.

    It would be totally against the spirit of the game and completely incompatible with fluff, and I feel bad for even thinking of it, but there it is.

    Seriously don't do this.

    EDIT: Actually, I think there might be a Medium-size, LA +0 giant race in Dragon, some kind of race of cyclops people. I couldn't possibly give you the issue number offhand, or guarantee I'm remembering them right. but they're definitely in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathbymanga View Post
    this makes it really hard to build a Primordial Giant at 1st level then. because the lowest Giant you can play as is +1 Half-Giant
    Use the half-giant racial class from Complete Psionic. It lets you play a half-giant from 1st level.

    Alternatively, use the Player's Guide to Faerun rules for powerful races at 1st level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkathellar View Post

    EDIT: Actually, I think there might be a Medium-size, LA +0 giant race in Dragon, some kind of race of cyclops people. I couldn't possibly give you the issue number offhand, or guarantee I'm remembering them right. but they're definitely in there.
    it took a surprisingly long time to find this, but i just had to know...

    Dragon 323, page 92 Cyclopeans
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    You might be able to swing Path of Worms from Dr 343. 2nd level, lets you apply a +6 bonus on a single roll or on your AC against a single attack as an immidiate action. When you do, everyone within 20' must make a will save or be stunned for a round.

    Olidammara’s Bard Spell lets you prepare up to three levels of bard spells with one 4th level slot. Dr 342.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzlean View Post
    it took a surprisingly long time to find this, but i just had to know...

    Dragon 323, page 92 Cyclopeans
    I believe the text does not give them a creature type, which means they're probably humanoids.

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    It also doesn't help that it's a 2e spell.
    1e. You can tell by the format.

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    Awakened animals have effectively negative LA, but those aren’t templates and it simply sets the ECL as opposed to giving LA(so hyper templated or advanced animals are legal until the GM applies their right to update 3.0 content).

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