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    Default Re: OOTS #1147 - The Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pilgrim View Post
    But she did definitely draw first!
    Shojo, however, was no sheriff.
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Weirdo View Post
    Shojo, however, was no sheriff.
    Actually, I think in this case, Shojo was the sheriff, and Hinjo was the deputy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Actually, I think in this case, Shojo was the sheriff, and Hinjo was the deputy.
    You'd know it better than I do: did sheriffs also make policy decisions?
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Actually, I think in this case, Shojo was the sheriff, and Hinjo was the deputy.
    More like Shojo was the Master, and Hinjo de Apprentice. From a certain point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pilgrim View Post
    More like Shojo was the Master, and Hinjo de Apprentice. From a certain point of view.
    If Hinjo was the Apprentice, how come Miko was fired?
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    If Hinjo was the Apprentice, how come Miko was fired?
    She failed them for the last time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    She failed them for the last time?
    Her lack of faith was disturbing.

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    Her lack of faith was disturbing.
    Well, actually, faith was the one thing Miko didn't lack. Like, at all.
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Weirdo View Post
    Well, actually, faith was the one thing Miko didn't lack. Like, at all.
    Her overabundance of faith was disturbing.

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    Her overabundance of faith was disturbing.
    Precisely.
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    Hinjo was the master, and Miko was the apprentice. That is why she killed him, she let the hate and self-righteousness flow through her, like a true Sith.

    You know what they saw through the rift?

    ALDERAAN.
    Predictions: Xykon will turn on Redcloak, the OotS will arrive during the combat and prevent the kill, Xykon will defeat the OotS, Redcloak will destroy him before he kills them, Vaarsuvius will help Redcloak cast the ritual, the Dark One will use the Snarl to slay Hel, the world will be saved, and Goblinoids will join the other humanoids and live in peace and harmony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    Hinjo was the master, and Miko was the apprentice. That is why she killed him, she let the hate and self-righteousness flow through her, like a true Sith.

    You know what they saw through the rift?

    ALDERAAN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    Hinjo was the master, and Miko was the apprentice. That is why she killed him, she let the hate and self-righteousness flow through her, like a true Sith.

    You know what they saw through the rift?

    ALDERAAN.
    Does that mean Xykonís astral fortress is the Death Star?

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    Default Re: OOTS #1147 - The Discussion Thread

    You know, I still think having the child turn out not to be Durkon's, but some other guy we've never seen, would be a very OOTS thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larre Gannd View Post
    Does that mean Xykonís astral fortress is the Death Star?
    Absolutely.
    Predictions: Xykon will turn on Redcloak, the OotS will arrive during the combat and prevent the kill, Xykon will defeat the OotS, Redcloak will destroy him before he kills them, Vaarsuvius will help Redcloak cast the ritual, the Dark One will use the Snarl to slay Hel, the world will be saved, and Goblinoids will join the other humanoids and live in peace and harmony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanKoopa View Post
    You know, I still think having the child turn out not to be Durkon's, but some other guy we've never seen, would be a very OOTS thing to do.
    That is true, but Thor would know, and maybe would have told Durkon.

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    That is not true.

    And I do not get why people suggest that Rich does shaggy dog stories.

    Where, exactly, do you find this "very OotS" "The thing that was built up and had a great deal of emotional weight put on it--it was never actually there, ha ha?"

    Go on. Point to one strip, just one.
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    This, in a nutshell.
    Yes, exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    That is not true.

    And I do not get why people suggest that Rich does shaggy dog stories.

    Where, exactly, do you find this "very OotS" "The thing that was built up and had a great deal of emotional weight put on it--it was never actually there, ha ha?"

    Go on. Point to one strip, just one.
    Ok: point taken. However, there are moments when OOTS subverts expectations, but they are usually smaller than something like Durkonís son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    Hinjo was the master, and Miko was the apprentice. That is why she killed him, she let the hate and self-righteousness flow through her, like a true Sith.

    You know what they saw through the rift?

    ALDERAAN.
    Darth Hinjo executed a classical sith apprentice grab of power, and used Miko as disposable pawn and scapegoat.

    She did not fell for executing Darth Shojo, but for failing to realize she was a tool in the plans of Darth Hinjo.

    After her demise, Soon's Force Ghost told her she performed adequately, but failed to redeem as she did not acknowledge her mistake. Had her recognized her mistake, then after escaping the prison, instead of bolting to protect the Gate, she would have run a beeline to kill the remaining Sith Lord, Darth Hinjo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larre Gannd View Post
    However, there are moments when OOTS subverts expectations, but they are usually smaller than something like Durkonís son.
    A better refutation would be: There are moments when OOTS subverts expectations, but always in the direction of making the emotional impact greater than what we were expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Norbert View Post
    A better refutation would be: There are moments when OOTS subverts expectations, but always in the direction of making the emotional impact greater than what we were expecting.
    I wasnít refuting though. I was taking his point.

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    Default Re: OOTS #1147 - The Discussion Thread

    Back to the topic at hand, strip 1147:

    Need to know was in panel two. But we, the audience, aren't in on the things that Thor shared with Durkon(panel 11), since we don't have a need to know, yet. My previous discussion about a certain ruler of a blue land was almost on topic as we addressed the secrecy and security elements of the-plan-that-didn't-quite-work-out-but-eventually-will-by-the-end-of-book-seven-since-it-set-the-order-on-the-right-trail ... law of unintended outcomes, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanKoopa View Post
    You know, I still think having the child turn out not to be Durkon's, but some other guy we've never seen, would be a very OOTS thing to do.
    It is possible, though the child not being his would he somewhat anti-climatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanKoopa View Post
    You know, I still think having the child turn out not to be Durkon's, but some other guy we've never seen, would be a very OOTS thing to do.
    Or maybe theyíre still in the temple in the desert hallucinating for the last 400 strips!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Or maybe theyíre still in the temple in the desert hallucinating for the last 400 strips!
    !!

    I'm not sure the fanbase would like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Actually, I think in this case, Shojo was the sheriff, and Hinjo was the deputy.
    No, no, no.

    Miko didn't stand accused of killing Hinjo (although she did try), and she didn't swear it was in self-defense either.

    The bottom did definitely drop out of the metaphorical bucket, though,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Weirdo View Post
    You'd know it better than I do: did sheriffs also make policy decisions?
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    No, no, no.

    Miko didn't stand accused of killing Hinjo (although she did try), and she didn't swear it was in self-defense either.

    The bottom did definitely drop out of the metaphorical bucket, though,.
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    Lol, the song was the first thing I thought of. However, can we really say Miko shot sliced in self-defense?

    Eager to be getting back to the main crew. There's something about this whole cutaway that I'm just not very satisfied with, but it's hard to put my finger on. Something to do with the tone, maybe. There's just something lacking... but I've pretty much had that feeling about the comic after the Blood Runs in the Family book, so who knows. Maybe this'll all end up being so satisfying that I'll consider this the best arc yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariele View Post
    shot sliced
    And now all I can think of is "Shojo shot first".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariele View Post
    Lol, the song was the first thing I thought of. However, can we really say Miko shot sliced in self-defense?
    No-- although she might try to say it-- it's not perfect. We can say that she shot the sheriff, but she did not shoot the deputy.

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