Spiderman: Far from home

[Erys]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFmhKpZKlE

I am really surprised this trailer was released so early- but, I gotta say, its pretty awesome. $$

[Aotrs Commander]

...

Huh.

An... Actually good first trailer!

Well done, Sony (slash Marvel)!

No, really, that looks absolutely hilarious.



Also?

Orchestral Spider-Man theme?

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice!



Spoilers for Avengers: Endgame by just existing, though, I guess - as if that wasn't kind of blinding obvious from the get go...!

[The Glyphstone]

Yeah that looks watchable.

[Ramza00]

YES!

Finally we get a PITA Nick Fury who always has his own objective and is fine with turning other people's life upside down to perform objective, and we also are getting a gay character in the MCU!*

<sup>*Waits for people to "well-actually" this last bit of what I said. There is always someone who is a Pedant. Especially things with lore and fandoms and comics are full of lore and fandoms which in turn creates Pedants.

blue text</sup>(This is sarcasm for I hope it to be made plain text, but I doubt it is going to occur.)

[Aotrs Commander]

YES!

Finally we get a PITA Nick Fury who always has his own objective and is fine with turning other people's life upside down to perform objective, and we also are getting a gay character in the MCU!*

^{*Waits for people to "well-actually" this last bit of what I said. There is always someone who is a Pedant.}

We are?

Did I miss something? I mean, clearly I did but...?

[Ramza00]

We are?

Did I miss something? I mean, clearly I did but...?

Do not click this spoiler block UNLESS you REALLY want spoilers. Aka if you are spoiler casual do not click this spoiler block. Only the people who are completely satisfied with being spoilered should click this spoiler block.

Specifically since the trailer very much made what I am talking about into a MYSTERY BOX where only the most cryptic of fans will get what is happening just watching the trailer.

Spoiler: YOU BEEN WARNED, Abandon all hope, ye who enter here, There will be spoilers

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Jake Gyllenhaal, is playing Mysterio





Same guy without fish-bowl.

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Mysterio (Quentin Beck) sexuality has not been revealed officially (this is why I made the comment about the pedantics / well actually people.) But in one of the stories of the sinister six (novels not comics) it was highly alluded that Quentin Beck is gay with all these references to things like hollywood director James Whale (famous 1930s to 1941 hollywood director famous for things like Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein, well James Whale was out as much as you could be in the 1930s, with the culture of the time), and the plot of the novels only makes since with Quentin being really invested in a specific character and blah, blah, blah.

Combined with things with how Campy this Steve Ditko creation is (Mysterio) and effectively Mysterio is often considered gay in subtext, but hasn't officially come out or been revealed by the actual text.

And I was making a comment that was sarcastic (maybe I should go back and code it blue) this is the best we are ever going to get from the MCU where a main protagonist or antagonist being out (this is me being cynical / savvy, I hope to be surprised but I doubt it is going to happen.)

[The Glyphstone]

I wondered who that was supposed to be. I suppose Mysterio is a good choice for a NuSpidey villain; like Vulture, I don't think he's ever gotten a film portrayal before. Thankfully they're not just re-using Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus for the nine hundredth time.

Is there going to be two antagonists? It looked like Mysterio was fighting whoever/whatever is making the giant elemental shapes.

Anyone want to see Kraven The Hunter brought to live-action next? Him, Chameleon, and Lizard are the only notable Spidey villains who haven't gotten screen time outside of animation AFAIK.

[Aotrs Commander]

I wondered who that was supposed to be. I suppose Mysterio is a good choice for a NuSpidey villain; like Vulture, I don't think he's ever gotten a film portrayal before. Thankfully they're not just re-using Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus for the nine hundredth time.

I imagine Jim Sterling (thank Lichemaster for him) will be delighted.




@ Ramza00 - pass on the possible spoiler, ta; thanks for warning (which why I didn't even try quoting like normally would!)

[Douglas]

This looks fun. I was not expecting Nick Fury, when that dart suddenly appeared my first assumption was that it was the introduction of the film's villain. Ned's reaction to the whole thing is great.

"I think Nick Fury just hijacked our summer vacation."
"Awesome!"

[Draconi Redfir]

i'm not convinced Mysterio is going to start off as a villain. From the looks of things, he's a local hero fighting the elemental things, and he tells SPidy that he doesn't want to get involved in this because it's dangerous, and since Mysterio has magic, he can better fight the elementals.

Something might happen later into the flick that causes Mysterio to become a villain, but if it doesn't, i'd be all for it. Having a character that is usually depicted as a villain in the comics turn out to be a hero in the movies would be a nice change of pace.

[Magic_Hat]

Wait, so he didn't bring his Spider-Man outfit because didn't plan on doing the costume-vigilante thing, but he still brought his web-shooters?

Also his spider-sense didn't detect Nick Fury?

Also has the MCU done a 360? Like Nick Fury breaks into someone's residence and talks to them about being a superhero like at the end of the first Iron Man film. Is the MCU a mobius strip?

[Erys]

Wait, so he didn't bring his Spider-Man outfit because didn't plan on doing the costume-vigilante thing, but he still brought his web-shooters?

Also his spider-sense didn't detect Nick Fury?

Also has the MCU done a 360? Like Nick Fury breaks into someone's residence and talks to them about being a superhero like at the end of the first Iron Man film. Is the MCU a mobius strip?

We don't know if he brought his costume or not; and his Spider-sense seems to ping off of harmful intent against him, so Fury not setting off the alarm does make sense.

Breaking into places and having ninja meetings in Nick Fury's MO. I for one enjoy the consistency.

[Palanan]

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone
I wondered who that was supposed to be. I suppose Mysterio is a good choice for a NuSpidey villain; like Vulture, I don't think he's ever gotten a film portrayal before. Thankfully they're not just re-using Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus for the nine hundredth time.

Yeah, I had absolutely no idea who that was. It’s been a long time since I’ve even seen the name.

But yes, one of the strengths of the latest Spidey run is that they’ve finally given up retelling the origin story and reusing the old standbys.

That said…

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Fighting water elementals in Venice…gah. Sadly it looks ridiculous.

And fighting stormy-things in London...no. London is more overused than the Green Goblin. Why can’t we fight supervillains in Stockholm? Or Istanbul? Or Belfast?

And yes, Nick Fury is all about ninja meetings.

[Friv]

This assumes that any of those elementals are real, and not just things that Mysterio is creating to look like a hero. That is his traditional MO.

I have faith that the creators of this will do something a little different, the way they did with Vulture, but Mysterio's core premise was always "use trickery to convince people there's some much bigger problem around but really it's just him".

[Kitten Champion]

Is there going to be two antagonists? It looked like Mysterio was fighting whoever/whatever is making the giant elemental shapes.

Given it's Mysterio, I think the chances are reasonably good that it's an illusion and he's using his tricks to create a Superhero persona he can profit off of in a way that's specifically calculated for the MCU. Which, given Spider-Man's main theme of Power & Responsibility and his tendency to be somewhat belittled and underestimated in the public eye, it would make this Mysterio a good foil for him. Sort of like a villainous Tony Stark he can punch.

Still, Hydro-Man is a Spider-Man villain.

[Ramza00]

Question what is the state of the various Spider-Man villians with the Marvel (DC) and Sony we are dating but Sony still wants to keep things in Vault? Sony and Marvel are sharing some form of revenue with said movies but do we know any of the details?

For example is that Hydro Man or is it another obscure Water Elemental person for Sony does not want to give rights to Hydro man back to Marvel without more cash being swapped?

[Dienekes]

Not bad, gave away a bit too much, in my opinion. But I am intrigued.

Interesting that they chose to reveal the trailer that shows that Infinity War Part II reverses Part I. Not that anyone thought otherwise, still I figured they would have waited until Infinity War was released, or at least closer to it.

I did notice the entire lack of Tony though, more fuel for the fire that Tony doesn't make it. I have money on Tony and Steve biting it, so I'm smiling at this non-reveal.

[The New Bruceski]

Wait, so he didn't bring his Spider-Man outfit because didn't plan on doing the costume-vigilante thing, but he still brought his web-shooters?

The International trailer closes that hole right at the start. It opens with how his suit gets there.

I really like how these movies have picked good thematic foils for Peter. He's struggling with responsibility? Vulture takes that motivation to dark places. Just wants a chance to be normal? Mysterio wants to be anything but. It's a trope, sure, but when done well it really works and for a ground-level hero like Spidey it's better than random world-threatening aliens.

[Kitten Champion]

Not bad, gave away a bit too much, in my opinion. But I am intrigued.

Interesting that they chose to reveal the trailer that shows that Infinity War Part II reverses Part I. Not that anyone thought otherwise, still I figured they would have waited until Infinity War was released, or at least closer to it.

I did notice the entire lack of Tony though, more fuel for the fire that Tony doesn't make it. I have money on Tony and Steve biting it, so I'm smiling at this non-reveal.

It could easily be set between Homecoming and Infinity War though.

[The Glyphstone]

Yeah, I had absolutely no idea who that was. It’s been a long time since I’ve even seen the name.

But yes, one of the strengths of the latest Spidey run is that they’ve finally given up retelling the origin story and reusing the old standbys.

That said…

Spoiler

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Fighting water elementals in Venice…gah. Sadly it looks ridiculous.

And fighting stormy-things in London...no. London is more overused than the Green Goblin. Why can’t we fight supervillains in Stockholm? Or Istanbul? Or Belfast?

And yes, Nick Fury is all about ninja meetings.

It was the missing helmet that threw me. Give him the fishbowl hat and I would have known him instantly.

[Palanan]

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone
It was the missing helmet that threw me. Give him the fishbowl hat and I would have known him instantly.

Wow, he really is a master of illusion!

[GloatingSwine]

Question what is the state of the various Spider-Man villians with the Marvel (DC) and Sony we are dating but Sony still wants to keep things in Vault? Sony and Marvel are sharing some form of revenue with said movies but do we know any of the details?

For example is that Hydro Man or is it another obscure Water Elemental person for Sony does not want to give rights to Hydro man back to Marvel without more cash being swapped?

They're these guys.

Given it's Mysterio, I think the chances are reasonably good that it's an illusion and he's using his tricks to create a Superhero persona he can profit off of in a way that's specifically calculated for the MCU. Which, given Spider-Man's main theme of Power & Responsibility and his tendency to be somewhat belittled and underestimated in the public eye, it would make this Mysterio a good foil for him. Sort of like a villainous Tony Stark he can punch.

Oh yeah. The fact that it's Mysterio almost guarantees that it's all trickery and shenanigans. And it will largely work because Mysterio is not a particularly well known Spidey villain among the general populace.

[Kitten Champion]

Oh yeah. The fact that it's Mysterio almost guarantees that it's all trickery and shenanigans. And it will largely work because Mysterio is not a particularly well known Spidey villain among the general populace.

I am wondering whether it's all a Mysterio illusion or he's working with Hydro-Man as well though. Taking some schlub with actual powers and manufacturing them into a fake Supervillain for his fake Superheroics.

I mean, Hydro-Man in the comics is not exactly presented as deeply intelligent or overly ambitious.

[Cikomyr]

Once again, Peter Holland spoils the ending of Endgame

[Draconi Redfir]

Once again, Peter Holland spoils the ending of Endgame

Ehh, not convinced. Still think it's more likely that all this happens pre-infinity war.

[Androgeus]

Ehh, not convinced. Still think it's more likely that all this happens pre-infinity war.

Stuff from Feige in this article suggests that it’s post Endgame.

[Aotrs Commander]

Once again, Peter Holland spoils the ending of Endgame

In what sense? It seemed rather unlikely that Sony was going to make a Spider-Man movie that consisted entirely of a close-up shot of a pile of black dust for 120 minutes...

[Cikomyr]

In what sense? It seemed rather unlikely that Sony was going to make a Spider-Man movie that consisted entirely of a close-up shot of a pile of black dust for 120 minutes...

He and Fury come back to life ;-)

[Legato Endless]

I dunno, clearly the fact that we saw people from the snap means the dusted aren't the ones who died. It's actually everyone who stayed on screen at the end of Avengers 3 that died and is now in purgatory.

[Mando Knight]

It was the missing helmet that threw me. Give him the fishbowl hat and I would have known him instantly.

When he's zipping about in the following scene, he's wearing the fishbowl.