Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

[HandofShadows]

I think that Krosp is going to have to make a decision on who's team he is on.

[Willie the Duck]

I think that Krosp is going to have to make a decision on who's team he is on.

Well, for the time being, subtly fudging the truth to keep daddy on team good-guy might work for a while, while they get him up to speed.

[slayerx]

Y'know i'm actually still wondering how absorbing the mind of a stupid extra-dimensional creature would result in second break through and god like power. Frankly i would have assumed it would be about as effective as absorbing the mind of any common feral animal. Just because the monster comes form another dimension does not make it some kind of superior life form.

And I actually find it a bit odd that Saturn Heterodyne(Agatha's grandfather) was a fraternity Brother a Vapnoople. Vapnoople doesn't look that old; i would assume he was from the same generation as Agatha's father. Eh, i just think they should have said Saturn was one of Vapnoople's mentors.

[Marcelinari]

Y'know i'm actually still wondering how absorbing the mind of a stupid extra-dimensional creature would result in second break through and god like power. Frankly i would have assumed it would be about as effective as absorbing the mind of any common feral animal. Just because the monster comes form another dimension does not make it some kind of superior life form.

My assumption is that it’s a matter of perspective. The extra-dimensional creature understands its own dimensions on a fundamental level, and by subsuming that perspective, Snackleford obtains the relevant inspiration to break through a second time.

[SZbNAhL]

And I actually find it a bit odd that Saturn Heterodyne(Agatha's grandfather) was a fraternity Brother a Vapnoople. Vapnoople doesn't look that old; i would assume he was from the same generation as Agatha's father. Eh, i just think they should have said Saturn was one of Vapnoople's mentors.

It's kind of hard to guess age when he doesn't have any hair and his head's undergone such extensive surgery, but it's not unreasonable to say he's in his seventies. Since Agatha was 18 when the story started, she'd be (chronologically) about 20 now, so assuming Bill was still in his early 30s when he had her (not entirely unreasonable, he seemed quite young in flashbacks), that would mean that Saturnus was having children about 50 years ago, putting him likewise in his seventies.

Alternative aging method: assume that Bill is about Klaus's age. Accounting for how much stress he's under, Klaus could easily be in his lat 40s/early 50s. That also meshes well with Gil being in his early 20s.

[geoduck]

And I actually find it a bit odd that Saturn Heterodyne(Agatha's grandfather) was a fraternity Brother a Vapnoople. Vapnoople doesn't look that old; i would assume he was from the same generation as Agatha's father. Eh, i just think they should have said Saturn was one of Vapnoople's mentors.

Could fudge it a bit and say they were in the same fraternity, but not at the same time.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Vapnoople was one of the pledges Saturnus was hazing! It's all the Heterodynes' fault how he turned out!

More seriously, anyone expecting we'll see Albia showing up in her spearmaiden outfit again to take on this fully armed and operational battle station restored Dmitri Vapnoople?

[Fyraltari]

And I actually find it a bit odd that Saturn Heterodyne(Agatha's grandfather) was a fraternity Brother a Vapnoople. Vapnoople doesn't look that old; i would assume he was from the same generation as Agatha's father. Eh, i just think they should have said Saturn was one of Vapnoople's mentors.

The Dark Side SCIENCE! is a pathway to many abilities some everybody would call unnatural...
*Four consecutives evil headturns*

[tyckspoon]

Vapnoople was one of the pledges Saturnus was hazing! It's all the Heterodynes' fault how he turned out!

More seriously, anyone expecting we'll see Albia showing up in her spearmaiden outfit again to take on this fully armed and operational battle station restored Dmitri Vapnoople?

Or just reaching back inside his head and re-breaking/disconnecting whatever it was our friend the vozzler did to him. I doubt it'll be permanent, anyway; they likely just need to keep things from completely exploding (or getting bad enough that the SparkDome's minders decide to just blow the thing) long enough for Vapnoople to regress to 'friendly and mostly harmless' again. 'course, that appears to be a bigger deal than anybody thought it would be.

[HandofShadows]

Well, for the time being, subtly fudging the truth to keep daddy on team good-guy might work for a while, while they get him up to speed.

No way is that guy EVEY going to be on Team Good guy while he is still a spark. He's Team Monster all the way.

[NEO|Phyte]

Don't worry, they'll win him to the side of good by pointing out that Man is the real monster.

[Traab]

My assumption is that it’s a matter of perspective. The extra-dimensional creature understands its own dimensions on a fundamental level, and by subsuming that perspective, Snackleford obtains the relevant inspiration to break through a second time.

This is what I was thinking, if I was a 2 dimensional being, it wouldnt matter if I took over a wolf or edison, either way, I get a being that understands an extra dimension on a fundamental level above my own just by existing in it. Sure having the knowledge of a genius in said extra dimension would be a nice bonus, but just the intrinsic knowledge of existence would be enough to expand my mind beyond current limits.

[Personification]

The Dark Side SCIENCE! is a pathway to many abilities some everybody would call unnatural...
*Four consecutives evil headturns*

But from my perspective it's the Jedi Heterodyne Boys who are evil!

[Rockphed]

Taking a Heterodyne as an apprentice is probably like deciding to build a summer home on an active volcano the day it explodes.

Only lots more exciting/dangerous/potentially fatal.

I can see him and Othar disagreeing about who gets to mentor Agatha when.

[Ellen]

I imagine the kind of fraternity Saturn belonged to always welcomes you back when you're in the neighborhood and want to unwind with a wild bacchanalia after a bit of raiding and pillaging, especially if you're 1) bringing stuff you raided and pillaged, and 2) not going to raid and pillage the frat house so long as they let you party.

[lord_khaine]

Taking a Heterodyne as an apprentice is probably like deciding to build a summer home on an active volcano the day it explodes.

Only lots more exciting/dangerous/potentially fatal.

Nahh.. it seems clear that for once the most dangerous spark in the room isnt a heterodyne.
Thats a very nice change of pace.

[Kareasint]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Agatha did not even give him an answer which probably means that he is doomed.

Typical cat. Always thinking about food.

[Traab]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Agatha did not even give him an answer which probably means that he is doomed.

Typical cat. Always thinking about food.

HEY! SHE brought it up!

[Rodin]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Agatha did not even give him an answer which probably means that he is doomed.

"Safe" is a dangerous word when dealing with a Heterodyne anyway.

"You will be perfectly safe once I have filled your veins with copper and galvanized your skin!"

[Radar]

"Safe" is a dangerous word when dealing with a Heterodyne anyway.

"You will be perfectly safe once I have filled your veins with copper and galvanized your skin!"

You say it like we do not do equally crazy things in real world.

[Lethologica]

I imagine the kind of fraternity Saturn belonged to always welcomes you back when you're in the neighborhood and want to unwind with a wild bacchanalia after a bit of raiding and pillaging, especially if you're 1) bringing stuff you raided and pillaged, and 2) not going to raid and pillage the frat house so long as they let you party.

And where the distinction between raiding and pillaging the frat house and partying is purely academic.

[Rogar Demonblud]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Agatha did not even give him an answer which probably means that he is doomed.

More likely she hadn't even considered the issue, and doesn't want to admit it. Or think about it.

Typical cat. Always thinking about food.

Yeah, Krosp is a lot more like the minion cats he was complaining about back at the beginning that his ego can handle.

[Thomas Cardew]

Yeah, Krosp is a lot more like the minion cats he was complaining about back at the beginning that his ego can handle.

Hey. There is one certainty in life. And if she has treats it would be a waste for them to go uneaten because everyone died.

[Scarlet Knight]

Nahh.. it seems clear that for once the most dangerous spark in the room isnt a heterodyne.
Thats a very nice change of pace.

"Lovely ball this evening, M'Lady. My card is open. May I have this next Dance of Dominance? I believe it's a 'Secure, Whip, and Nay Nay'..."

[Gez]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Agatha did not even give him an answer which probably means that he is doomed.

She did give him an answer. She changed her assessment of the situation from "we're ready" to "we're almost ready" and she went back to tinker on the gizmo some more. That's a tacit assumption that she forgot to make it safe and is now doing that.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Looks like the vozzler is again deducing that this trip was a bad idea.

[PraetorDragoon]

Looks like the vozzler is again deducing that this trip was a bad idea.

Poor Bob. And he has only himself to blame.

[HandofShadows]

Anyone else notice that Lord Snackford's legs are not... normal? I wonder if these going to get sucked into the other dimension along with the monsters.

[PraetorDragoon]

Anyone else notice that Lord Snackford's legs are not... normal? I wonder if these going to get sucked into the other dimension along with the monsters.

So the six arms, floating visor and fire as hair are normal?

[Manga Shoggoth]

So the six arms, floating visor and fire as hair are normal?

Oh yes, all the best gods have them.

Well, perhaps not the floating visor (unless you follow that nice Mr von Däniken, in which case ALIENS!).