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    Default Re: OOTS #1153 - The Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Oh, in case you or anyone doesn't want to risk reading those other spoilers, but still wants to read that essay:

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    (and yes, I agree with your most recent spoiler comment.)
    Saw the entire show, but nice of you to add.
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    Oh Lord, somebody said "The_Weirdo" three times into a mirror again, didn't they?
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    Weirdo... I'm not sure you're entirely clear on how an 'alliance' works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potatopeelerkin View Post
    I think that refers to paladin redemption.
    I don't.

    You can narrow all the general statements Soon makes to refer to that one specific situation, addressing only a character who was a fairly minor villain in the grand scheme of the overall comic, but I will not be joining you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    I don't.

    You can narrow all the general statements Soon makes to refer to that one specific situation, addressing only a character who was a fairly minor villain in the grand scheme of the overall comic, but I will not be joining you there.
    Okay. What about the rest of the stuff I said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    I personally reject the dichotomy of character vs. plot in a story; I think character is revealed through action, and action drives plot.
    Personally, I like to think of it as interrelated "action plot" and "character plot": Each one drives the other forward, pulling the story between them like some sort of literary rail gun; but they share the same high-level structure so you can examine them in isolation, or compare them across entirely different stories (this is why allegory can be a thing).
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    Sigdi, proof that small roles can be filled by large characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldsong View Post
    Following the rules and doing things the right way is supposed to make you more likeable?
    Well, it will at least make you less unlikable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Fair point. My bad.
    Bah, you give up too soon.

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    More like it was never necessary to say so. States also don't declare oxygen as the official respiratory chemical either.
    Well, without carbon dioxide we wouldn't have proper respiration, so that makes sense. Of course, that's the reason why no State has done so. Why are you looking at me like that?

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    Great praise coming from the land of the chicken-fried chicken. It may have been the spanish but the earliest known recipe comes from a french book.
    As others have pointed out, we also have chicken-fried steak. And okra. And fish.

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    In our greatness, our hubris, we have managed to deep fry ice cream. Look upon our works, ye mighty, and despair!
    Maybe. Attributions vary. But it never came from Mexico. Just Chi-Chis. Which is pretty funny for contextual reasons.

    On topic, yup, Granma's zinger was nicely delivered. I'm a little surprised at Hilgya's shaken reaction...but at least she played nice.

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    I love that the dwarves have "water over the tunnel" as a saying instead of "water under the bridge."

    I also love that even being a 15th level CoDzilla doesn't immunize someone from being embarrassed by their parent in front of their friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aka-chan View Post
    I also love that even being a 15th level CoDzilla doesn't immunize someone from being embarrassed by their parent in front of their friends.
    You could have the power of a god, your mother could still embarass you enough you'd rather die.
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    Default Re: OOTS #1153 - The Discussion Thread

    Okay, well, I have a new favorite character.

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    Yes!

    This is exactly what I wanted from Hilgya and Sigdi meeting. And exactly what Hilgya needs.

    And it’s nice to see that Hilgya basically is over her issues with Durkon - compare her insulting him to his friends earlier and assuming he’s sleeping with every other female character to her “eh, it’s all fine, it’s in the past” response now when Sigdi asks if he acted right. I think Sigdi’s attitude of “you’re both adults, it’s none of my business, and it’s between you” helped elicit that response.

    And Sigdi does not appear to think that Hilgya killing Durkon and immediately raising him makes her definitively Evil. Sigdi finds it death-threat-worthy, sure, but not something that prevents her from being otherwise friendly with Hilgya. I get the impression that adventurers treat life and death a tad more casually than the average person.
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    Just what I needed after a long week at work: a comic full of YESNESS! XD

    I love that momma Dwarf so much. And also how she was already making a good impression before the threatening kicked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwizard007 View Post
    Sigdi, proof that small roles can be filled by large characters.
    "There are no small parts, only small actors."

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    Despite thoroughly enjoying OOTS from page 1, I have not had a good laugh for sometime, the tone being somewhat more serious, but the last two strips have been a couple of crackers, really funny. Appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    "There are no small parts, only small actors."
    Utter nonsense, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    "There are no small parts, only small actors."
    I remember an interview with a writer/producer from Six Feet Under where, as every show starts with a death, he was auditioning actors for the role of, for this week, an old person who looks out a window and dies of boredom.

    He found out one of the actors auditioning for the bit role had a tremendous resume, and he felt embarrassed to even ask this fellow to audition for such a small part. He even apologized to the actor. The fellow just smiled and said, hey, he likes working as an actor, every part is work, and auditioning is just part of getting that work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Extinguisher View Post
    Wow The_Weirdo hasn't even posted in the thread yet and already theres two posts just directly dumping on him. Yall sure know how to make a forum seem welcoming and inviting
    I should add, "Gleefully making the forum unwelcoming to advocates of mass murder since #639" to my sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmerwald1915 View Post
    Utter nonsense, of course.
    Maybe in the sense you think, but not in the sense it's intended. I think you know that, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    Personally, I like to think of it as interrelated "action plot" and "character plot": Each one drives the other forward, pulling the story between them like some sort of literary rail gun; but they share the same high-level structure so you can examine them in isolation, or compare them across entirely different stories (this is why allegory can be a thing).
    I guess one point of clarification is that I'm talking about narrative stories that are performed-- dramatic works rely on action and on the audience's ability to empathize with the characters taking the actions they do. Literature tends to be much more descriptive; it's a medium much more suited to painting a picture of a full world. I think more TV shows emulate literature rather than drama, and I think that sort of defeats some of the purpose and power of having live performers.

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    I may be a bit late to jump on this particular bandwagon, but I really really like Sigdi. She's so interesting and cool and wise! And cunning in a way too! Gotta say, best OotS parent so far I think. That is counting Durkon as well as Elan's mom too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    I should add, "Gleefully making the forum unwelcoming to advocates of mass murder since #639" to my sig.
    Please do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resileaf View Post
    I am eagerly awaiting T_W to claim that Sigdi just forfeited her right to live with her threat towards Hilgya.
    perhaps not, but the thread has still blown up into 10 pages at insane speed with other debates.
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    Sigdi be best ma

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    Sigdi is officially the best fictional grandmother of all time. I gotta admit it took me a second to figure out she made a threat toward hilgya though. It just came so completely out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Extinguisher View Post
    Wow The_Weirdo hasn't even posted in the thread yet and already theres two posts just directly dumping on him. Yall sure know how to make a forum seem welcoming and inviting
    they seem to have quite the history here, that even as someone who has been here less than a year can see. o.o
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    In the course of most character interactions I read in fiction, the assorted variations of 'hurt my (insert loved one here) and I will kill you' trope make me want to bang my head softly against the wall in despair, but in the context of this being an adventure setting where Resurrection is kept on hand by pretty much every party of the appropriate level as well as Sigdi's nuanced version of it is probably my favourite use of it I've ever seen.

    I hope to be approximately that awesome when my grandchildren arrive at some distant day... not that I would ever raise my child in such a way as to act in such a reprehensible manner as either of these two layabouts and rapscallions.

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    To be fair to Hylgia she DID say she loaded down on abjurations, so she probably had shielding from Negative Energy the baby.

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    Rich's dwarves are adorable. I realize that I have not been keeping up with the discussion. Beyond having 3.X's best saving throws, dwarves are just so freakin' cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potatopeelerkin View Post
    I think that refers to paladin redemption. And that is also to restore a Lawful Good position, not a Chaotic Neutral. As Belkar said (wow, that sounds weird to say) change is gradual. To expect that she could only immediately switch tack now or never find her way to redemption ever seems like a false binary. And Sigdi seems like the perfect role model to show that happiness is not a zero-sum game- putting others first doesn't mean you have to make yourself miserable.
    While it's true that it helps to be reminded that helping others doesn't have to mean hurting yourself, part of the issue with Hilgya is that she also just doesn't seem to care about the happiness of others (child excepted naturally). It's going to be a long road.

    Especially if she remains stubborn at believing she did nothing wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The MunchKING View Post
    To be fair to Hilgya she DID say she loaded down on abjurations, so she probably had shielding from Negative Energy the baby.

    That doesn't help.
    All you get is a saving throw and spell resistance. Negative Energy Protection shuts down level drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyEowyn View Post
    And Sigdi does not appear to think that Hilgya killing Durkon and immediately raising him makes her definitively Evil.
    Or she believes that she should treat the mother of her grandchild with respect and kindness, evil or no. We have occasionally seen the theme that some Good characters will murder anyone evil on sight, but the *good* Good characters will try to make peace with them.

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