Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot

[D.One]

Also Not-Thad's blade is made of pure something-or-other, but it looks like Mr. Burlew wants to call speculation on his class and other features to an end :( .

Not really. Maybe the blade is made of Pure, whatever material Pure is...

Come to think of it, Purê is the portuguese word for the french Purée, which is, in english, Mashed Potatoes. What a strange material to make a blade with...

[Jasdoif]

Come to think of it, Purê is the portuguese word for the french Purée, which is, in english, Mashed Potatoes. What a strange material to make a blade with...

Not necessarily potatoes, although I'm now seeing that Elan's trojan alpaca could have been loaded with weapons....

[hamishspence]

Not really. Maybe the blade is made of Pure, whatever material Pure is...

It used to mean poop - in the context of the leather-tanning industry.

[D.One]

Not necessarily potatoes, although I'm now seeing that Elan's trojan alpaca could have been loaded with weapons....

Weapons of Mashed Destruction...

[Jasdoif]

Weapons of Mashed Destruction...

Isn't that just bludgeoning damage, though?

[D.One]

Isn't that just bludgeoning damage, though?

We might bluntly say that...

[Jasdoif]

We might bluntly say that...

Really trying to hammer that point home, I see....Better be careful, you could get mauled or Maced.

[D.One]

Really trying to hammer that point home, I see....Better be careful, you could get mauled or Maced.

It will be easier to sap to the botton of it if more people join the club.

[Jasdoif]

It will be easier to sap to the botton of it if more people join the club.

Maybe convince some vampires to get their bat on.

[Resileaf]

Maybe convince some vampires to get their bat on.

It could be the final nail in their coffins, though.

[D.One]

It could be the final nail in their coffins, though.

I believe putting Nale in any coffin would demand a huge work (to collect his ashes).

[CriticalFailure]

It could be the final nail in their coffins, though.

Or they might just be mistified.

[Chronos]

Huh, I'd have thought that a banana would want to stay far, far away from bludgeoning damage...

[Jasdoif]

Huh, I'd have thought that a banana would want to stay far, far away from bludgeoning damage...

No more so than anyone else. I mean...damage is damage, DR 1/bludgeoning is more of a joke than anything else, and banana slices have the popularity anyway.

[Squire Doodad]

No more so than anyone else. I mean...damage is damage, DR 1/bludgeoning is more of a joke than anything else, and banana slices have the popularity anyway.

Well, we can get Banana Bread if we mash him...
* evil face *

[Peelee]

Well, we can get Banana Bread if we mash him...
* evil face *

What about other options? Have you even considered boiling or putting in a stew?

[D.One]

What about other options? Have you even considered boiling or putting in a stew?

I believe you are counting he'll stand still for that... And that he won't be using any steel armor or weapon against you...

[Squire Doodad]

What about other options? Have you even considered boiling or putting in a stew?

Look, if we boil 'em it'll probably take all night. We should just squash them and be done with it, so that we can cook them properly at a later point.

[Ephemera]

Look, if we boil 'em it'll probably take all night. We should just squash them and be done with it, so that we can cook them properly at a later point.

Everyone knows bananas are most properly deep fried in hot oil anyway...

[Rogar Demonblud]

Only if you can't use them as the foundation for two flavors of ice cream, whipped cream, chocolate sauce with a cherry on top.

[Doug Lampert]

Look, if we boil 'em it'll probably take all night. We should just squash them and be done with it, so that we can cook them properly at a later point.

If we keep arguing about this it will be dawn soon. I say we roast them.

[MultitudeMan]

I know this may have been addressed before, and that she died over 700 strips ago, but I have a query about the lack of an Int listing for Miko. If we are listing Lien as having Int of 10+ due to her statement of "Good, not dumb" in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0584.html , then should we not list Miko as also having Int of 10+ for her statements about her valid strategic plan in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html ? The FAQ seems to indicate that a character's own statements about their intelligence are valid evidence.

[Ephemera]

should we not list Miko as also having Int of 10+ for her statements about her valid strategic plan in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html ? The FAQ seems to indicate that a character's own statements about their intelligence are valid evidence.

I think the problem is that “I have a valid strategic plan” isn’t a direct statement about her intelligence, but is closer to the sort of inferring mental stats or alignment from actions that we try to stay away from because they’re too subjective.

In game terms, it would be hard to pin down a stat because that’s the sort of strategic decision that you generally let a player make rather than saying they need to make an INT check before they can flank someone, etc...

[MultitudeMan]

I think the problem is that “I have a valid strategic plan” isn’t a direct statement about her intelligence, but is closer to the sort of inferring mental stats or alignment from actions that we try to stay away from because they’re too subjective.

In game terms, it would be hard to pin down a stat because that’s the sort of strategic decision that you generally let a player make rather than saying they need to make an INT check before they can flank someone, etc...

Yeah, I get that point, it just seems inconsistent alongside Lien, who provided no stat-based or numerical evidence, just stated that she wasn't dumb (Lien also demonstrated reasoning capability in that strip, but I agree that that's a subjective call). Lien says she's not dumb, gets a stat listing, Miko rhetorically asks Roy if he thinks she's stupid enough to not have a valid strategic plan, she doesn't get a stat listing. I know Miko REALLY wound some people up, and still does, apparently, but I think this is evidence that she's of not-below-average intelligence, thus at least 10 Int!

[Kelenius]

I think this is a better argument to remove 10+ Int from Lien. She could be referring to her Wis score as far as we know.

[RatElemental]

So I realized today that when Xykon cast maximized energy drain he either needed to use sudden maximize on that, or have either improved spell capacity three times or some mix of improved spell capacity and improved metamagic spread over 3 feats. Both of those feats are epic, which could give us a better idea where his level falls.

Are there any instances where he used multiple castings of maximized spells that would bump them up to 10th or higher spells in a single day?

[Peelee]

So I realized today that when Xykon cast maximized energy drain he either needed to use sudden maximize on that, or have either improved spell capacity three times or some mix of improved spell capacity and improved metamagic spread over 3 feats.

Or have the Metamagic Specialist alternate class feature. Blarg, forgot that one talks about casting time and one talks about spell level.

[danielxcutter]

Xykon uses Maximized Lightning Bolt on O-Chul a bit after that, so he can't JUST have Sudden Maximize. Could have that *too*, yes, but not just that.

[RatElemental]

Xykon uses Maximized Lightning Bolt on O-Chul a bit after that, so he can't JUST have Sudden Maximize. Could have that *too*, yes, but not just that.

maximized lightning bolt would be 6th level, so at best that tells us Xykon has both sudden maximization and regular maximize spell. I find it much more likely he just has maximize spell and the feats needed to be able to cast what is effectively a 12th level spell though

[Vendanna]

I think the problem is that “I have a valid strategic plan” isn’t a direct statement about her intelligence, but is closer to the sort of inferring mental stats or alignment from actions that we try to stay away from because they’re too subjective.

In game terms, it would be hard to pin down a stat because that’s the sort of strategic decision that you generally let a player make rather than saying they need to make an INT check before they can flank someone, etc...

well, we know due commentaries in the books, that she was intended for romantic interest for Roy, so she had to be intelligent (to match wits with him) before she was offed and replaced by celia (which also is intelligent having studied Law) So yes she has probably more INT than wis.