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2019-02-02, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
If you want to be really nerdy, in the original myth the hammer was created as part of a contest. Loki stole Sif's hair, and Thor threatened to damage him. So Loki went and tricked two sets of craftsmen into creating three gifts. But one of the craftsmen got wise and said if his side won he got to keep Loki's head. So Loki sabotaged their work and the result was that Thor's hammer had a short haft. Another possible reason for the hammer to be named the Hammer of Loki Sucks.
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2019-02-03, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Remind me, how do we know that Blackwing is male?
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2019-02-03, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
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2019-02-04, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-04, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Removed Durkon's armor, shield, and deceased status; replaced his warhammer; added gauntlets of ogre power and MWP:Warhammer feat. Fixed link for Spellsplinter, Belkar's spellcraft, Greg's wis and cha, and Minrah's alignment.
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Indeed.
Yes, plus Thor can effectively fly by throwing his hammer and not letting go of it (so it drags him along). For anyone unfamiliar with Norse mythology, I recommend the recent interpretation by Neil Gaiman.Guide to the Magus, the Pathfinder Gish class.
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2019-02-04, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-04, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
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2019-02-04, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
It doesn't say, but it's pretty easy to figure out. You use the Movement and Distance table, and you treat all terrain as not impeding you (×1), outside of situations like constant winds.
The only real question is whether you can Hustle or not. Overland Flight specifically allows it; I would say that other magical means of flight generally don't unless they say they do, since Overland Flight spells it out and is specifically intended for that use. Wings (or other physical methods of locomotion) probably allow you hustle, but you exert yourself as usual.
Note that a Carpet of Flying specifically functions as Overland Flight and is therefore capable of hustling.Last edited by Aquillion; 2019-02-04 at 12:11 PM.
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2019-02-04, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Some interesting things:
Originally Posted by Overland Flight on SRD
Originally Posted by Carpet of Flying on SRDEach one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
"I really like the Geek Math'ology we do here"
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2019-02-04, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
I know it's been a while now, and that it in no way advances the thread, but I just wanted to thank you Zimmerwald. Your explanation was very easy to understand and very very warm (especially because I feel that this is pretty common sense to most people here). Thank you for being kind!
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2019-02-05, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
The link to Roy's "Improved Unarmed Strike" citation has an extra 0 before 1070.
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2019-02-06, 02:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-02-06, 04:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
From the SRD:
Weapon and Armor Proficiency...
A cleric who chooses the War domain receives the Weapon Focus feat related to his deity’s weapon as a bonus feat. He also receives the appropriate Martial Weapon Proficiency feat as a bonus feat, if the weapon falls into that category.
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2019-02-06, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Aren't we making an assumption that the gloves are magic items? What if they are just insulated gloves to protect from electricity?
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2019-02-06, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Not really. Evidences for War Domain would be Weapon Proficiency (which he has, but that could be acquired without the domain), Weapon Focus (which he has not demonstrated yet, and could very well have appeared here if he had), and the casting of Domain spells (this one is tricky, because all War Domain spells are general Cleric spells at the same levels, so it's harder to know if they are being cast as domain spells or regular cleric spells).
OTOH, we know he has the Good Domain, and we've seem him cast a couple of lightning-based spells that aren't part of a regular cleric's list, so it's reasonable to suppose that his second domain is related to lightning/thunder/weather.Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
"I really like the Geek Math'ology we do here"
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2019-02-06, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Seconded. It really is a great book.
Well, its possible, but shock weapons don't work that way, no amount of insulation can actually protect a target from electricity damage in D&D (although the reverse is not necessarily the case), and it would just be way less cool!
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2019-02-06, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
If we assume that Durkon is limited to spells on the standard Cleric list and has two of the standard domains, then one of his domains is Air, because Clerics limited to the standard Cleric list and standard domains do not have access to Control Winds outside of the Air Domain. Chain Lightning - also only available to Clerics through the Air Domain - would probably be a decent fit for Thor's Lightning, though you'd need a house rule to change how secondary targets are selected if Durkon's implication that the secondary targets affected by Thor's Lightning are not entirely within the caster's ability to control is true.
The Air Domain is also probably a pretty decent fit for a god called the "King of Storms and Thunder."Last edited by Aeson; 2019-02-06 at 07:04 PM.
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2019-02-07, 05:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
"I really like the Geek Math'ology we do here"
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2019-02-07, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
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2019-02-07, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Weather isn't one of the domains listed here so I wasn't counting it as one of the 'standard' domains.
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2019-02-07, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Agreed.
We still don't have confirmation, and I believe we'll hardly have, since the strip is much less "rules-declaratory" these days.
Confirmation of Air Domain would be if he turned earth elementals or rebuker air elementals at any given time.
Confirmation of Weather Domain is much harder, because its domain power is to have Survival as Class Skill.
Most of the time, Thor's Lightning seems akin to Lightning Bolt, more than to Chain Lightning or Call Lightning. Do we have any domain that gives Lightning Bolt as a Domain Spell?Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
"I really like the Geek Math'ology we do here"
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2019-02-07, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
In Bonus strips from DCF durkon casts call lightning explicitly. Thors lightning has also been called a third level spell by malek. They could be one and the same, but if durkon has a domain that gives call lightning, and definitely has the good domain, what explanation could there be for thor’s lightning
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2019-02-07, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Strictly speaking, since we don't know what domain grants him his weathery spells (Control Winds, whatever Thor's Lightning is, and Call Lightning if we consider that canonical), it's possible that that (presumably homebrewed) domain also grants Holy Smite, and that we thus don't know that he has the Good domain.
But that would be a really weird domain, and I'm content to assume otherwise.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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2019-02-07, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Leaping? This feels more like taking the smallest of baby steps.
There exists in D&D an artifact that is Mjolnir with the serial number filed off. The god Thor told his cleric where to find a hammer hidden in a statue in one of his temples. This hammer emits lighting and was stored with a set of gloves. Thor has a magical belt and a set of gloves which allow him to wield his hammer's full might. The artifact allows gauntlets of ogre power and a belt of giant's strength to stack. This seems like enough evidence to strongly indicate that the gloves are special as well, or why should they be hidden with the hammer. If this isn't confirmed within three pages I'll eat my router.Last edited by Obscuraphile; 2019-02-07 at 05:56 PM.
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2019-02-08, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Let me add a caveat: barring a scene change.
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2019-02-08, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
If V prepares Bull's Strength, Roy doesn't need his Belt.
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Out of curiosity, do Crystal, Bozzok, or Right-eye not warrant enough information or relevance to have their stats counted?
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2019-02-09, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Nowhere near enough information. All we know about Right-Eye is Male Goblin Rogue. Crystal is about Haley's level. Bozzok is higher than Haley's level, since he can sneak attack her. That's about it.
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2019-02-09, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, he's a rogue? How do we know that? I sort of assumed he was a fighter.
As for Crystal, she has levels in something called Assassin.
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2019-02-09, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVI - These Characters May Now Drive the Plot
Right-Eye mentions being able to sneak attack Xykon during his duel with Dorukan. He could be multiclass, but if so he'd be able to wear heavier armor than he does.
As for Crystal, she has levels in something called Assassin.
Actually, if Crystal has the same number of levels as Haley during the Greysky City arc, she should have 15 total levels. She mentions wanting "at least one more Assassin level," meaning that she can't have more than 8. She can't have more than 10 levels in a 10-level class before Epic levels, and if she had 9 levels, she couldn't gain more than one. So we could stat her as a Rogue 7-14/Assassin 1-8 (total level 15). . . at least before she died and became a homebrew golem.Last edited by zimmerwald1915; 2019-02-09 at 08:07 PM.