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2019-06-15, 11:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fate/Grand Order III - Protecc those Smiles
Keep complaining about your lack of Sabers. Gilles is Garbage and Caesar is OK at best.
Otherwise, you've got a solid early team, Orion is very powerful and Cu Chulainn is better than his rank suggests. Your only mistake is not restarting when you got Stheno for your first servant because she is, as you said, extremely niche."And if you don't, the consequences will be dire!"
"What? They'll have three extra hit dice and a rend attack?"
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2019-06-15, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hello and welcome!
First of all, with the exception of events, you don't really need to bother with any guides. Just take each level in the main story one at a time. You'll get a feel for team construction as you go, and with the exception of a few bosses, most levels are pretty forgiving.
Second, Sabers are understandably hard to come by. There are no Sabers under 3-star rarity, and only four of that rarity (one of which is story-locked) which means it's extremely uncommon to get them from the FP gacha. And getting anything you want from one of the banners is extremely tough. So don't expect to have many Sabers, is the point. If you need them, you're probably going to have to rely on your friend list.
Speaking of rarity, don't overvalue it. With very few exceptions, every Servant serves a specific and niche function, regardless of rarity. Hans is probably the best healer you'll have unless you get very lucky and grab Medea Lily, for example. And Robin, despite being only 3-star, is extraordinarily destructive when he lines his poison up with his NP. And we don't even need to mention Best Boy Arash.
Your team is small now. It will grow. Your best bet is simply to take the game at your pace, accumulate SQ, and save for a special event or the Servant you've been waiting for. In your case, you might consider waiting for a Saber-focused banner, or maybe a better Assassin.
And if you have any particular questions, throw 'em up here. We've all been there, we know a thing or two.
I must rebuke you. Yes, Gilles is disappointment in every way, but Caesar is a legitimately decent Quick ST Saber. His support skills are useful at low levels, and his NP, while not as strong as, say, Lancelot's, is likewise a decent ST option for those without. He gets easily replaced once you actually have options, but until then he's a great place-filler when you need a Saber.
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2019-06-16, 12:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I didn't know Stheno was that bad when I first got her, nor that resetting was even a thing you could do until I already had Orion.
How should I build to make the best use of Orion? I think I must be using her wrong because she doesn't seem all that powerful to me.
Thanks! I do have a few questions:
1. Any particular 3 star and below Servants that I should make sure to build? I've been saving one of everybody no matter how bad they look, and feeding duplicates to max Noble Phantasms, but most of them are still level 1 and unskilled.
2. Any of the Servants among those I listed that I should stop investing in?
3. It seems that Orion, Stheno, and Euryale are all anti-male specialists. Should I just focus on Orion and ignore the other two, or do either of the Gorgon sisters bring more utility within that niche?
4. Should I focus on doing the daily quests in Chaldea Gate to power up servants and their skills, or focus on story progression first?
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2019-06-16, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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1. For farming purposes, you can't go wrong with Arash. His NP is a nuke that comes at the cost of his own life. If you need a line of enemies erased, he's your man. If you need a tank, Leonidas or Georgios are extremely durable for their rarity. If you need to avoid an AoE NP, David has a team-wide single-use evade that can save your life if the enemy does not have sure hit or pierce invuln. Cu Chulainn, who is already in your team, is one of the most durable lancers in the game, and properly built will never die.
2. Ignore Stheno, she's the most useless 4* in the game. Even her niche isn't that good compared to everyone else. Level any other assassin you get.
3. By virtue of being 5*, Orion is better, but Euryale has use in stunlock teams that can keep a male enemy from attacking and using their NP for a ridiculously long time. But that's a team you need several specific servants to make work, while Orion is a male nuke any time. Level Orion for now.
4. Alternate between the two. Do story until you can't advance because your servants are too low level, then do dailies until you've caught up. Favor dailies when they give experience and materials for servants you use. Relatedly, use the story servant supports instead of a friend's servant during the story events, the FP they give is vital, and it's more fun to not get carried.Last edited by Resileaf; 2019-06-16 at 12:52 AM.
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2019-06-16, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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For what's worth, Stheno will get a Rank Up that will boost her performance as a support against male bosses. She'll be even better in charm-lock teams.
She's powerful against male servants, like, VERY powerful. Her damage adds up, and she's fairly tanky. She's way too gimmicky though, working mostly in stall teams or against certain knights of the sun.
There's a list, actually. Though for different reasons, you can check this post for some feedback on easy to obtain low-level servants to level and use for very good results! I'd add Caesar to the list, though.
Even if she'll become decent at best, you should stop investing in her, and attempt to get better results in the merciful gacha.
They fit well into an anti-male charm-lock team, constantly reducing NP Charges and Charming the target for damage prevention. Of the three, Euryale is relatively the best. Her extra damage increases by NP Level (which is great and rare, as most of the time extra damage is increased via overcharge), her third skill is a big Arts buff, which helps in both wrecking males and charging up her NP, plus having an innate Charm on her NP and a skill, plus a Vampirism skill (NP charge plus remove charge off a chance). Orion is good to level, but Euryale is cheaper, and most of the time provides similar results.
Depends on your servants and friend list. With a strong berserker friend, you can do most 40AP quests for both EXP and maybe the 30AP quest for materials. I'd say play the story up to a point where it gets hard (not Camelot Hard, just Hard) and use that time to raise up servants.
Kinda. Statwise she IS better, but Euryale's damage also adds up, with less cost and has more or less the same effect. Her numbers are bigger, but Euryale provides better support. Granted, Orion is better even when not dealing against males (in which case Eruyale's damage drops down heavily), so she is kinda better, but cost-wise (and for a new player), Euryale is more cost effective and frankly a superb choice for an archer.Check out which is the Playground's favorite Dragon!
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2019-06-16, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Here's some quick analysis of Orion. Short version: Despite having two Arts cards and an Arts NP, Orion has poor NP generation; you'll do best with a hybrid NP gauge starter and stat booster CE (such as Golden Sumo). In short fights, a CE that boosts crit can be useful, as it takes advantage of Orion's decent crit; in long fights, consider a +Arts CE, to improve Arts performance. Aside from NP, Orion is more a defense-focused Servant than offense-focused, with multiple survival tricks. The only offensive active skill is specifically anti-Male. In other words, Orion is incredibly tough, and useful in a stall team - a team designed to buy time while you charge NP - but not as destructive as other Archers.
In the long run, level everybody. Eventually most get Strengthening quests that require them to be fully limit broken. Also, some events will give certain Servants, even low-rarity ones, special bonuses. In the short run, though, as others have said, Arash is a great screen-clearer, and Cu is a Good Doggo. Hans is a great healer, and you should definitely max Mash. Aside from that, just level who you feel comfortable using.
And you're right to save one of everybody. Almost every Servant is useful, if only to give you access to Servant-specific interludes with SQ rewards.
Stop investing? No. Prioritize lower? Yes. Stheno is universally reviled as a disappointment. Very good in her niche, completely worthless outside of it, and her niche is generally too minor to appreciate.
There's nothing wrong with focusing on your higher-rarity Servants. More stars means higher base stats from the word go; Orion will be beefy for a long time to come. That said, Euryale is also more effective than Stheno in certain cases - there are some potent Male Saber enemies who need to be taken down a peg by an anti-Male Archer, and in those rare instances Euryale is a go-to. That Charm skill is no joke.
Alternate. Do some Ember farming in the Gate to bring up Servant levels. This will make the main story easier and bump up your Master level. But don't focus on that; once you've done that for a bit and gotten a solid team to their first Ascension threshold (level 50) or so, dive back into the story to farm that sweet, sweet SQ. (And, you know, enjoy the story.) Bonus, each chapter will give you a freebie 3-star Servant, some of whom are actually decent. (Looking at you, Bedi.) Come back to the Gate if you hit a wall and decide you need to grind more levels.My headache medicine has a little "Ex" inscribed on the pill. It's not a brand name; it's an indicator that it works inside an Anti-Magic Field.
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2019-06-16, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fate/Grand Order III - Protecc those Smiles
Why is no one recommending farming the golden sumo first? It's a great CE that only comes 1 per year.
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2019-06-16, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Its more like this is the last chance to get it, and people actually did suggest getting it before the Kintoki Copies. Unless you get lucky with drops, most people will only have at most 2.
But if you mean for starting people, getting the item drops for it will be hard, but even a single copy I guess can be a good start. But as this is the last chance to get it, I question how useful a single copy is, and how able a new player is to grind out the items for getting a MLB version within 4 days.
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2019-06-16, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm a little confused about Event Only craft essences. Are they specific to a given event or do they work for all event quests?
If I get multiple copies of Golden Sumo or Hot Spring Under the Moon, am I better off using them to increase one copy, or using them on multiple Servants?
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2019-06-16, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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It depends what the CE does. In the event the ones that boost one servents damage should be MLBed as soon as you have enough. The ones that boost team damage or item drops should be kept seperate. After the event is when you should MLB them as the Event Effect goes away. And each event effect only works in the event you got the CE from. But the CE still has the rest of its effects outside the event and those are what really make a CE good long term. Golden Sumo giving +50% starting NP and 10% attack boost is what makes it a highly sought after CE.
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2019-06-16, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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oh my, i leveled up and got a BP refreash but only up to max, i didn't know that happened, i've never had a level up coincide with a BP event before. level ups are rare these days.
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2019-06-16, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-16, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-16, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-16, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I say only combine them once you have enough to combine to max. Until you do it will be far more advantageous to have them individually on your 2 lead servants and the back 3 having Hot Springs or Item Drop CEs, if you happened to get them from the gacha. But yes, once you have 5 copies of Golden Sumo, combine them for the best use.
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2019-06-16, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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I can't equip that many 5 star CE's at one time. I only have 78 points to spend. Here's my current team:
Hans Christian Andersen + Sorcery Ore (+15% NP gain) = 4+5
Orion + Golden Sumo = 16+12
Support Emiya + whatever he's been given = 0
Subs:
Mash + Hot Spring = 0+12
Emiya Alter + Hot Spring = 12+12
Arash + nothing = 3+0
Total is 76/78 points used, and even then I have to use an unleveled Arash with no CE because I don't have the points to put one of my other Servants in.
Also, what does gacha mean?
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2019-06-16, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Gacha being the various Summon Banners. Gacha refers to the type of game that uses these kinds of methods to obtain characters and equipment. Taken from the term Gachapon which are those coin based toy dispensers you see in grocery stores. Put in some money, get a random toy or collectible. So now in the age of mobile games with a random method of obtaining characters and items, often with ways to pay for more chances, they are referred to as Gacha Games. It also sounds like Gotcha as you often feel the things never give you what you want. Especially if you make the decision to spend money on them.
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2019-06-16, 06:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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I highly recommend using Dragon's Meridian on DIO.
As it provides 50% NP Charge when limit broken, is easily obtainable in the FP gacha, and is just a 3* CE, so its cost remains the same as Sorcery Ore. Hans' second skill, Rapid Casting E even at level 1st grants 50% NP charge, so he's able to provide his bonuses at even turn 1.Spoiler: Dragon's Meridian
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2019-06-16, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, I do have one of those. It's not limit broken so it only provides 30%, but I also have Hans's skill up high enough where it provides 60% so I can still get his bonuses by turn 2 or 3 depending on how the cards are dealt. I'll try it out and see how I like it.
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2019-06-16, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, i took one last roll on the Empty Wallet Roulette in the hopes of getting Raikou
I got...
My first Archer Emiya
and my third Suzuka in a month...
The game really wants me to level Suzuka huh...
I'll also probably level Emiya...eventually... due to his tendency to get event bonuses.
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2019-06-16, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-16, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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(Oof, I just realized that Suzuka has only been out for like a month or so....Still it's even more absurd that I've gotten three of her in the last month)
I have a real life friend who has Assassin Emiya.He keeps him on the back row, Order Changes him out and uses Scapegoat for crucial moments to make sure the enemy targets who he wants them to. He doesn't really impress me in his other aspects.
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2019-06-16, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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His NP gain and NP damage are both pretty weak but he gets an NP interlude eventually. His star gen is good and his NP drains NP gauge so he works decently in an arts crit team. His targetable taunt is unique in the game and you might be able to do some gimmicky things with it.
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2019-06-17, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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This.
Fact is, Sad Dad functions well on an Arts-based team - he has a Blue Button (Arts boost skill), two Arts cards, and an Arts NP. His damage output is respectable, he has nice critboosting from his second skill, and the Charge Decrease on his NP is a useful effect. But the big draw is his extremely unique targetable taunt - he is the only Servant with one of these, and it's an incredibly useful tactical option.
But that said? His direct competition, in terms of ST Arts Assassins, is Shiki. And Shiki is (1) a welfare Servant, meaning you can get her for free and with max NP, (2) one of the best welfare Servants in the game, and (3) one of the best 4-star Assassins in the game, if not the best. Her skillset is synergistic, she has ample ability to charge NP, her Blue Button is better than Sad Dad's by every metric (better Arts bonus, plus additional effects), she has an Evade button (which, given an Assassin's durability, you kind of need), and while her NP doesn't reduce NP Charge it does ignore DEF boosts and has a chance to insta-kill.
Is Sad Dad a Bad Dad? No. He's still a 4-star Servant, he still has unique functionality, he's still a solid Assassin with competent abilities. But basically his main utility - if you have Shiki - is only his targeted taunt. That's his one niche. Aside from that, there's no reason to use him over Shiki.My headache medicine has a little "Ex" inscribed on the pill. It's not a brand name; it's an indicator that it works inside an Anti-Magic Field.
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2019-06-17, 10:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Added you. Name's nightwyrm.
Just a few tips:
Fill out your Support List with CEs. It makes ppl more likely to add you and gets you more Friend Points (FPs).
Speaking of FPs, since you just started, roll all your FPs in the FP gacha to quickly enlarge your pool of free servants and CEs and don't forget the free FP roll we get each day.
I don't know how far you've progressed along this event, but try very hard to get Kintoki, all his ascension mats and copies. He's one of the best Riders in the game and he won't come back.
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2019-06-17, 08:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks!
Fill out your Support List with CEs. It makes ppl more likely to add you and gets you more Friend Points (FPs).
Speaking of FPs, since you just started, roll all your FPs in the FP gacha to quickly enlarge your pool of free servants and CEs and don't forget the free FP roll we get each day.
If I've interpreted you right, I am doing that. I haven't built a lot of the easy to get Servants yet, and the game likes to give me the same few classes over and over again, but I'm trying to build at least somewhat evenly.
I don't know how far you've progressed along this event, but try very hard to get Kintoki, all his ascension mats and copies. He's one of the best Riders in the game and he won't come back.
If I should have to choose between buying another Golden Sumo CE or another Kintoki, which would you recommend?
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2019-06-17, 09:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, put Craft Essences on each of the servants on your support list. Generally, if there's an event going on, put event CEs (ie. CEs that increases drops or damage for that event). Otherwise, just put whatever CEs works with that particular servant (eg. Arts up CE on Arts servants etc.)
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It's good you're doing it. Just wanted to make sure.
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Hmm....it depends, how far up are you on the damage ladder? How many of Kintoki's ascension items do you have? An NP5 Kintoki that's stuck at low levels would still not be useful. How many Golden Sumo do you currently have?
Are you farming the stages efficiently? You'll want to farm Coral at Mountain Trails, Brocade at Tower and Baskets at Hot Spring. Find a friend who's got a CE that gives bonus drops to that particular currency when you farm those 3 stages.
Or if you need to farm all three currencies, you can do it at the Cave or Summit. They're a bit more efficient if you want all 3 currencies but if you're only aiming for one or two, then the sole currency stages are better.Last edited by nightwyrm; 2019-06-17 at 09:17 PM.