Haley Cryptogram

**Falconer** · 2007-09-28, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)

I realize that the whole 'Haley unable to talk' thing is old news by now, and that she's been cured of it. But I keep hearing that people have decoded the crypto-thingywhummit, and was wondering if anyone happened to have the key on them.

Just curious

**NikkTheTrick** · 2007-09-29, 12:03 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Falconer

I realize that the whole 'Haley unable to talk' thing is old news by now, and that she's been cured of it. But I keep hearing that people have decoded the crypto-thingywhummit, and was wondering if anyone happened to have the key on them.

Just curious

I think her letters were messed up.

So, any given letter should simply have been substituted by a different letter. So, for example a = v, h = r, k = y, etc (this is not the right code! just showing an example)

**Green Bean** · 2007-09-29, 12:09 AM (ISO 8601)

As NikkTheTrick implied, the code changes every comic. There's a handy guide to what she says strip by strip here.

**Ganon11** · 2007-09-29, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)

In any given panel, Haley's speech was encoded with a simple Caesar switch. However, the specific substitutions changed every panel.

I know, because I tried to translate them all. Got about 5 strips in when I realized, "Wait, T can't mean both J and P. What the heck!?"

**Ariko** · 2007-09-29, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)

Try checking the stickied messages, please.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6496

**SkanMan** · 2007-09-29, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)

wait did the good mr. burlew really intned to have haleys words scrambled? i always assumed it was just random key strokes? is there any proof? im not trying to start conflict merely playing devils advocate

**KurenaiYami** · 2007-09-29, 12:52 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by SkanMan

wait did the good mr. burlew really intned to have haleys words scrambled?

Yes.

i always assumed it was just random key strokes?

Nope.

is there any proof?

Yes.

im not trying to start conflict merely playing devils advocate

Belkar tells us that it is a cryptogram in comic #248.

**Ariko** · 2007-09-29, 12:53 AM (ISO 8601)

Yes they were scrambled, according to a code that changed each strip (no, not each panel). See the cryptogram thread linked in that sticky, or see your copy of No Cure for the Paladin Blues

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**Regneva** · 2007-09-29, 02:56 AM (ISO 8601)

I believe the book "No cure for Paladin Blues" contains all of the translations (or plaintext, whatever). I'm unsure

**NerfTW** · 2007-09-29, 07:16 AM (ISO 8601)

Besides the above mentioned sticky, or the search function, No Cure For the Paladin Blues contains the translations at the start of each section.

Even before NCftPB, the fact that they could be solved to make coherent sentences "proves" they are cryptograms.

**Alysar** · 2007-09-29, 03:08 PM (ISO 8601)

I had written a little script to help me decode the cryptograms

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Code:

<html>
<head>
<script>
function translate(){
sourceNC = document.translateform.sourcetext.value;
source = sourceNC.toUpperCase();
dest = "";
key = document.translateform.key;
for(x=0;x<source.length;x++){
if(source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) < 65 || source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) > 91){
dest += source.charAt(x);
}else{
for(y=0;y<26;y++){
if(y==source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0)-65){
if(key[y].value == ""){
dest+="*";
}else{
if(sourceNC.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) >= 65 && sourceNC.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) <= 91){
dest += key[y].value.toUpperCase();
}else{
dest += key[y].value.toLowerCase();
}
}
}
}
}
}
document.translateform.dest.value = dest;
//
}
</script>
<style>
table tr td{
text-align:center;
font:10px Verdana;
}
input.textbox{
width:15px;
font:10px Verdana;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form name="translateform">
<table >
<tr>
<td>A</td>
<td>B</td>
<td>C</td>
<td>D</td>
<td>E</td>
<td>F</td>
<td>G</td>
<td>H</td>
<td>I</td>
<td>J</td>
<td>K</td>
<td>L</td>
<td>M</td>
<td>N</td>
<td>O</td>
<td>P</td>
<td>Q</td>
<td>R</td>
<td>S</td>
<td>T</td>
<td>U</td>
<td>V</td>
<td>W</td>
<td>X</td>
<td>Y</td>
<td>Z</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input type="button" value="Clear" maxlength="1" name="clear" onclick="for(x=0;x<26;x++){document.translateform.key[x].value='';}"></td>
</tr>
</table>
<br>
Encrypted Text<br>
<textarea name="sourcetext" cols="70" rows="10" onkeyup="translate()"></textarea><br>
<br>
Decrypted Text<br>
<textarea name="dest" cols="70" style="background-color:white;color:black;" disabled rows="10"></textarea>
</form>
</body>
</html>

**Falconer** · 2007-09-30, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)

Sweet. Thanks for the help, everyone.

**Idiotic_Bird** · 2015-08-24, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Alysar

I had written a little script to help me decode the cryptograms

Spoiler

Show

Code:

<html>
<head>
<script>
function translate(){
sourceNC = document.translateform.sourcetext.value;
source = sourceNC.toUpperCase();
dest = "";
key = document.translateform.key;
for(x=0;x<source.length;x++){
if(source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) < 65 || source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) > 91){
dest += source.charAt(x);
}else{
for(y=0;y<26;y++){
if(y==source.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0)-65){
if(key[y].value == ""){
dest+="*";
}else{
if(sourceNC.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) >= 65 && sourceNC.charAt(x).charCodeAt(0) <= 91){
dest += key[y].value.toUpperCase();
}else{
dest += key[y].value.toLowerCase();
}
}
}
}
}
}
document.translateform.dest.value = dest;
//
}
</script>
<style>
table tr td{
text-align:center;
font:10px Verdana;
}
input.textbox{
width:15px;
font:10px Verdana;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form name="translateform">
<table >
<tr>
<td>A</td>
<td>B</td>
<td>C</td>
<td>D</td>
<td>E</td>
<td>F</td>
<td>G</td>
<td>H</td>
<td>I</td>
<td>J</td>
<td>K</td>
<td>L</td>
<td>M</td>
<td>N</td>
<td>O</td>
<td>P</td>
<td>Q</td>
<td>R</td>
<td>S</td>
<td>T</td>
<td>U</td>
<td>V</td>
<td>W</td>
<td>X</td>
<td>Y</td>
<td>Z</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input class="textbox" type="text" maxlength="1" name="key" onkeyup="translate()"></td>
<td><input type="button" value="Clear" maxlength="1" name="clear" onclick="for(x=0;x<26;x++){document.translateform.key[x].value='';}"></td>
</tr>
</table>
<br>
Encrypted Text<br>
<textarea name="sourcetext" cols="70" rows="10" onkeyup="translate()"></textarea><br>
<br>
Decrypted Text<br>
<textarea name="dest" cols="70" style="background-color:white;color:black;" disabled rows="10"></textarea>
</form>
</body>
</html>

Hey,
what language does that use???I know it constitutes of HTML, but is it Javascript?
because i can't run it on my platforms.

**Qaanol** · 2015-08-24, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)

I’m pretty sure that for at least some of the strips, the decoding key itself was a joke or reference of some kind.

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