Avengers: Endgame Discussion Thread

[Maloney]

Alright I'll put up bets through paypal on how Endgame is going to end.

We already know Ant-Man is going to climb into one of Thanos's orifices, but which one do you think? I'm personally betting five USD on the urethra.

[GloatingSwine]

The movie will open with Thanos lying unconscious on the floor, all the dusted people back alive, and Squirrel Girl saying "Well that was easy".

[Maloney]

The movie will open with Thanos lying unconscious on the floor, all the dusted people back alive, and Squirrel Girl saying "Well that was easy".

I'm pretty sure Fox owns the rights to Squirrel Girl, being a part of the X-Men canon and all.

[GloatingSwine]

I'm pretty sure Fox owns the rights to Squirrel Girl, being a part of the X-Men canon and all.

As of eight days ago, Disney own Fox.

It's all part of the plan.

(Also, no, Squirrel Girl is not an X-Men character)

[Legato Endless]

The film will end with Blade waking up from a long ass dream and delivering a cheesy one liner. The entire MCU was just a prologue to Marvel unveiling it's vampire franchise after getting back the rights.

[Aotrs Commander]

As of eight days ago, Disney own Fox.

It's all part of the plan.

(Also, no, Squirrel Girl is not an X-Men character)

Well on, that basis, Jubilee (with Shogo in a bay carrier on her, because she's a responsible mother) turns up and proceeds to to blow Thanos' face off, takes, the gauntlet from is twitching corse, unsnaps everyone (and while doign so, properly ingrates the X-Men into the MCU properly), resurrects Colston and becomes the Avenger's new leader, and then all the X-Men and Avengers go off to fight evil mirrir universe Nazi vampire Shi'Ar (sorry, the Nazi part was redundant, wasn't it, if not actually denigrating to the Nazis) in a giant spaceship.

The seequence ends with Gladiator getting his face blown clean off after twenty solid minutes of everyone, but especially, Jubilee, Captain Marvel, Daisy Johnson, Wolverine and Deadpool smacking the crap out of him, while mocking his poor fashion choices (in the latter case).

...

Shssh, I'm enjoying the moment.

[understatement]

I thought Ant-man was supposed to crawl into his ear instead.

welp

[Magic_Hat]

I can't wait to see this movie because I really love watching movies where I know how the film is going to end because we all know the good guys are gonna win - especially if the film is just to hit the reset button on the last film. So excited! Shut up and take my money Marvel/Disney as the world inches ever closer to the dystopia society of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

Also why hasn't Thanos just destroyed the infinity stones? He did what he wanted to do with them in the last film, and we know it's possible to destroy them. It's like he only kept them so there can be a sequel that could hit the reset button.

[Bobb]

I'll be disappointed if the Avengers need Captain Marvel as a catalyst to try undoing the snap.

I kind of envisioned this as the old crew's swan song. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[Maloney]

I can't wait to see this movie because I really love watching movies where I know how the film is going to end because we all know the good guys are gonna win - especially if the film is just to hit the reset button on the last film. So excited! Shut up and take my money Marvel/Disney as the world inches ever closer to the dystopia society of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

Also why hasn't Thanos just destroyed the infinity stones? He did what he wanted to do with them in the last film, and we know it's possible to destroy them. It's like he only kept them so there can be a sequel that could hit the reset button.

Thanos pretty clearly doesn't have the gauntlet at the end of Infinity War. We see the gauntlet is left behind on earth and all the stones destroyed.

[Magic_Hat]

Thanos pretty clearly doesn't have the gauntlet at the end of Infinity War. We see the gauntlet is left behind on earth and all the stones destroyed.

Are you serious? This video (time 1:28) Thanos creates a portal with the stones and vanishes with the gauntlet still on his person:

[lowfyr01]

If the last Avengers movie should have showed you something, that would be that the stones are not so easily destroyed.


And I would wait for the movie before making assumptions about it. And we know that you hate a movie that you know next to nothing about. But it helps me practice the eyeroll thing if i read your comments.
But not with taking you seriously.

[Magic_Hat]

If the last Avengers movie should have showed you something, that would be that the stones are not so easily destroyed.

If the last Avengers movie should have showed YOU something it's Thanos has the power to teleport all around the universe thanks to the stones. Why doesn't he just teleport himself or the stones to the surface of a star or black hole? I think that should be enough. I mean Scarlet Witch had enough power to destroy one, and if a star doesn't have enough power as Scarlet Witch she should have been able to destroy Thanos and any pretty much any foe with ease. Or Thanos could use the power stone to destroy the time, soul, and any other stone capable of restoring life.

And I would wait for the movie before making assumptions about it.

You're right. And I'm sure you're never made assumptions about any film based on a trailer. You've never said a film looks bad because of a trailer or think that a series has declined faster than a lead balloon. You must see literally ever film right because to not do so you're making assumptions about the quality of every film you don't see.

And we know that you hate a movie that you know next to nothing about.

I know several of the "dead" characters are getting sequels. I also know a decent thing about statistic. Every MCU film is a predictable, cliche nightmare rivaling Michael Bay so not wrong to deduce what's going to happen in this film.

But I suppose you're right. We all know next to nothing about this film mostly because the trailers are probably lies. Infinity Wars had trailers with scenes not in the movie, and the Russo brothers have literally stated they intentionally lie in the trailers. It's always a good sign when an artist (or just person in general) lies to you about the end product. It's like someone who makes food lying about the nutritional facts about their food. It's like a car salesman lying about the quality of the car. It's like a realtor lying about someone dying in this home their trying to sell. The Russo brothers truly are the great con men of this age.

But in all seriousness I hope one thing isn't a lie in the trailer: the shot of the Citibank stadium. We see a bird's eye view of it in this trailer at 0:07:



It's like this is supposed to be a serious trailer about the lose of countless lives and friends, and here's a product placement. A product placement inside of a commercial - a commercial in a commercial. Disney/Marvel has done the impossible. But in all seriousness I'm sure it's not that sleazy. I mean it's not like super bowl ads are super expensive and Disney/Marvel sought product placement to lower how much they lost from this ad. Why would a company that makes hundreds of millions with each film and sometimes even over a billion sink so low? I mean it's not like Spider-Man: Homecoming had a subplot devoted to a lego Death Star (Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars) or forced, awkward closeup shots of Star Lord's walkman in GotG 2 showing it's a Sony. No way any company is that greedy.

I do hope the Citibank Stadium is in the film though because it's my favorite character of the series for two reasons:

1) Despite being an inanimate structure made of concrete and steal with no cellular structure, metabolism, or pulse it's still by far the most human character.

2) Since the Citibank Stadium has no mouth, tongue, or vocal cords it can't spout stupid one liners.

Go Citibank! Go commercialism! Hurrah for the decline of society! Take your soma Alphas, Betas, Gammas, Deltas, and Epsilons!

[Devonix]

The main thing I'm hoping for this movie is what I hoped for in the last film. That someone or something brings up how idiotic Thanos' plan was.

Also Magic_Hat, what's your problem with Peter's walkman, it was a central part of the Guardians film,it's kind of super important to the narrative of the film and Peter's character. It's his emotional connection to his mother, the one thing he has left from his time on Earth.

[Androgeus]

The main thing I'm hoping for this movie is what I hoped for in the last film. That someone or something brings up how idiotic Thanos' plan was.

What would be the point of such a scene? A scene showing Thanos is unreasonable seems pointless. At least for me the movie got across that he wasn’t doing it for pragmatic reasons, he was doing it to prove to himself that his plan to save Titan would have worked if he had had the will to force his people to implement it.

[Devonix]

What would be the point of such a scene? A scene showing Thanos is unreasonable seems pointless. At least for me the movie got across that he wasn’t doing it for pragmatic reasons, he was doing it to prove to himself that his plan to save Titan would have worked if he had had the will to force his people to implement it.

It's just that his plan made him seem like an idiot, not like a crazy person. Hey Titans, I think the solution to our problem is we kill half our population, even though we have habitable unocupied worlds, a couple of hours away from here.

[Rodin]

Most of the movie is comprised of getting all the remaining Avengers together, and coming up with a plan to defeat Thanos. We then have the big flashy showdown, and at the end of it all the Avengers are lying on the ground, defeated. Then a big pencil comes down out of the sky, and starts rubbing Thanos out of existence.

Cut to Stan Lee's final cameo, where we see him correcting the universe with his pencil. He turns to look at the camera and says "Ain't I a stinker?"

Cut to black.

[GloatingSwine]

Most of the movie is comprised of getting all the remaining Avengers together, and coming up with a plan to defeat Thanos. We then have the big flashy showdown, and at the end of it all the Avengers are lying on the ground, defeated. Then a big pencil comes down out of the sky, and starts rubbing Thanos out of existence.

Cut to Stan Lee's final cameo, where we see him correcting the universe with his pencil. He turns to look at the camera and says "Ain't I a stinker?"

Cut to black.

Only Jack Kirby wielded enough power to do that.

[Berserk Mecha]

Anyone interested in starting a dead pool on which characters are going to die (for real) at the end of this movie. I think it's almost guaranteed that the original Avengers cast (minus Fury and maybe Hawkeye) are on their way out. Oh, and Thanos is gonna die by the end, but that's obvious.

[GloatingSwine]

Maybe, maybe not.

Remember Thanos survives the original Infinity Gauntlet story, and even hangs on to one of the Infinity Gems (because he's the only being in the universe who now knows the futility of unlimited power).

Anyway, I think we can be p. sure that Evans and Downey Jr. are retiring from the MCU, so they'll probably be gone.

Likely the only ones too.

Nobody really cares about Hawkeye so him dying has no weight (but conversely I don't see them doing a Hawkeye movie so he could be for the chop), Widow is likely to survive to help the solo film eventually happen and they've only just hit their stride with Thor and Hulk so I wouldn't rule out another duo film with those two.

[deuterio12]

Maybe, maybe not.

Remember Thanos survives the original Infinity Gauntlet story, and even hangs on to one of the Infinity Gems (because he's the only being in the universe who now knows the futility of unlimited power).

In the original he survives to become a farmer at the end.

But in the movie he's already "retired" as a farmer at the start.

Plus they were other times, back in the day villains very rarely actually died unless nobody cared about them anymore, it was a lot more common to make it look like they died but then come out just fine at the epilogue (and comic Thanos does activate a self-destruct device in his suit before showing up as a farmer in the end).

While nowadays movies are a lot more ok to just kill villains instead of saving them for the next chapter. It's not like they would run out of villains any time in this century.

The bigger question is where things escalate from here. After defeating the mad titan that killed half of all life with a snap of his fingers, anything else the avengers face will just look like small potatoes.

[Devonix]

Anyone interested in starting a dead pool on which characters are going to die (for real) at the end of this movie. I think it's almost guaranteed that the original Avengers cast (minus Fury and maybe Hawkeye) are on their way out. Oh, and Thanos is gonna die by the end, but that's obvious.

Gonna continue with what I said last time. I'm rather confident that no one will definitively die in the film.

[Berserk Mecha]

I can't see Marvel Studios not killing off Thanos at the end of this flick. Marvel films rarely bring villains back. These aren't the comics. Ulton bit it at the end of his film. Laufey was stabbed to death. Obadiah Stane is dead. The one big exception is Loki, but he had enough personality and motivation to keep him going for more than one film. If Thanos does come back after Endgame, what are they going to do with him?

Oh, and we know that Chris Evans and Robert Downy Jr. are hanging up their Marvel hats after this film, so I still count of them buying the farm.

[Devonix]

I can't see Marvel Studios not killing off Thanos at the end of this flick. Marvel films rarely bring villains back. These aren't the comics. Ulton bit it at the end of his film. Laufey was stabbed to death. Obadiah Stane is dead. The one big exception is Loki, but he had enough personality and motivation to keep him going for more than one film. If Thanos does come back after Endgame, what are they going to do with him?

Oh, and we know that Chris Evans and Robert Downy Jr. are hanging up their Marvel hats after this film, so I still count of them buying the farm.

Leaving is almost certain, but I think death is unlikely.

[Magic_Hat]

Also Magic_Hat, what's your problem with Peter's walkman, it was a central part of the Guardians film,it's kind of super important to the narrative of the film and Peter's character. It's his emotional connection to his mother, the one thing he has left from his time on Earth.

It's unsubtle product placement. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it's a Sony in GotG II. Was it a Sony brand walkman in the first? I'm not sure, but it sure is a "coincidence" there are super awkward closeups of the device in the sequel clearly displaying the word "Sony" on the walkman especially since the filming of the movie took place around the time Sony agreed to let Spider-Man into the MCU.

[The Glyphstone]

Doesn't product placement, by its very nature, need to be unsubtle? If people don't notice that the product is being featured, the product placement failed at its sole reason for inclusion. Of course, there are varying degrees of unsubtlety, but it's going to be there in some degree.

[Devonix]

Doesn't product placement, by its very nature, need to be unsubtle? If people don't notice that the product is being featured, the product placement failed at its sole reason for inclusion. Of course, there are varying degrees of unsubtlety, but it's going to be there in some degree.

Also he was taken during the 80s. Of course he'd be using a Sony Walkman. It's not as if they were advertising a new product that sony was making.

[JadedDM]

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it's a Sony in GotG II. Was it a Sony brand walkman in the first? I'm not sure.

It was a Sony brand in the first movie, yes.

[Androgeus]

So is the MP3 player he gets at the end of the film product placement for Microsoft?

[Lethologica]

So is the MP3 player he gets at the end of the film product placement for Microsoft?

Microsoft reportedly wasn't happy about it, so...maybe?

Unlike the Zune, though, the Walkman indisputably won the battle to be remembered thirty years ago. Not at all surprising that it's referenced as a symbol of the '80s, and it becomes a key part of the movie's story and sound design. Whether or not it was product placement, it was clearly an excellent creative choice. And I'm saying that as someone who didn't particularly like GotG.