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    Default Pokémon Thread XXIX: Sword, Shield, and Spoilers

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    3DS Friend Codes and XY Friend Safaris

    Remember, these are your 3DS Friend codes, so these are good both for Generation VI games (XY and ORAS) but also for the Generation VII games (Sun and Moon) and any other 3DS game you and another Playgrounder might decide to play (Smash, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem, Metroid Prime: Federation Force, etc.). Don't forget to PM the player you're looking to add as a Friend, so they can add you back.

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    You can only have 100 Friend Codes registered at a time.

    To use XY's Friend Safari, you need to have defeated the Elite Four, and both you and your friend must have added each other. For more details, see here.
    GitPName Code CharacterName 3DS(Mii)Name SafariType Pokémon1 Pokémon2 Pokémon3
    Alaris 1907-9395-1731 Tom Alaris Flying Farfetch'd Swanna
    Aotrs 5172-0494-3728 Bleakbane Normal Lillipup Kecleon Smeargle
    Arcran 2294-3882-2896 Arcran Water Octillery Wartortle Azumarill
    Armaius 3239-3640-9568 Timothy Ice Spheal Beartic Lapras
    AstralFire 0834-1672-7022 Adorabelle Cinder Bug Ledyba Volbeat Venomoth
    AtlanteanTroll 4055-3788-4115 Fresca Normal Lillipup Loudred
    bluewind95 0473-9066-8078 Raziel Kallie Grass Tangela Swadloon Gogoat
    boj0 1693-1768-6943 boj0 boj0 Fairy Swirlix Togepi Floette
    Burley 1547-6257-5822
    Burnerpower 0645-6906-6047 Chase Burner Fire Pansear Pyroar Braixen
    ChaosArchon 4742-5730-4052
    Codswallop 1650-2047-0584 Dan Ghost Lampent Phantump Spiritomb
    CynanMachae 2964-9109-7883 Cynan Pancham Hariyama Mienfoo Pancham
    DMan7733 0104-0178-9108 Dennis Psychic Duosion Espurr Munna
    DarkTira 4012-4193-6629 Flair DarkTira Grass Ivysaur Sunkern Quilladin
    DarkLightDragon 3110-5232-7003 Gwendolyn DLD2 Water Krabby Floatzel Azumarill
    Derjuin 2063-0607-0374 Gwen Derjuin Flying Tropius Doduo Tranquill
    Domino Quartz 3024-8274-5412 Dexter Ignispirus
    DiegoHavoc 5343-7951-5809 Diana Diego Ghost Lampent Phantump Spiritomb
    Dihan 3909-7507-9532 Cai Bryn Fairy Kirlia Mawile Floette
    Drakenkin 1220-6369-1867 RC Steel Forretress Magneton Klefki
    Dvil 1891-1492-0775 Lorzo Ghost Shuppet Pumpkaboo Dusclops
    Elhann 4656-7012-2957 Afo Afo Normal Lillipup Loudred Ditto
    EmperorIng 1134-7922-2243 Rand EmpI Ground Phanpy Dugtrio Palpitoad
    FallenGeek 2938-7158-7152 UberGeek Fairy Dedenne Mawile Floette
    FoolishTeeth 2965-0036-6655 Jerome 80s Flying Farfetch'd Woobat Rufflet
    Forrestfire 0044-4109-2187 Linae Normal Kecleon Dunsparce Smeargle
    Freudianship 0791-1490-0816 Victoria Ice Delibird Bergmite Piloswine
    Gengy 1762-3248-0955 Genaur (Redacted) Dark Pawniard Crawdaunt Liepard
    geonova 3625-8744-4346 Geo Geo Water Wartortle Panpour Poliwhirl
    GiftJeraff 0662-3715-4355 Venkman Fighting Mankey Throh Hariyama
    Goldfly 1203-9717-6298 Gold Gold Electric Pikachu Electrode Luxio
    GreenSerpent 0662-3910-6053 Jaegar
    Gulaghar 4012-3882-1934 Nadia Ghar Fairy Dedenne Mawile Floette
    HandsomeGoblin 0920-0919-2787
    HappyGravity 2208-5735-4223 Eileen -_- Poison Swalot Kakuna Croagunk
    Harnel 5472-7302-7698 Halae Halae Water Krabby Gyarados Frogadier
    Hogwarts9876 3024-5607-5601 Adam Adam
    HunterNoventa 0189-8423-5030 Emi Emi Electric
    InfernallyClay 1891-1230-7244 Alice Winny Psychic Sigilyph Grumpig Duosion
    JustPlayItLoud 4785-6164-8724 Toaster Brett Fire Magmar Charmeleon Ninetales
    Keris(Full) 2423-2600-9179 Tarn Tarn Water Bibarel Floatzel Frogadier
    Kurgan 1478-3987-4689 Kurhanik Kurgan Steel Magneton Forretress Klefki
    Kuroten 2809-8617-8608 Raijin/Akemi Water Panpour Floatzel Frogadier
    Kuulvheysoon 5257-9453-0107 Ariik
    LawlessIII 5129-1568-6363 Gorgeous Andrew Flying Farfetch'd Woobat Fletchinder
    LordFullbladder 5343-8973-8240 SheG Normal Aipom Minccino Ditto
    Mando Knight 4742-9573-4652 Chris Chris
    MaryRing 5215-0045-7397
    Mattarias,King 5343-8171-8375 Mattarias Mattarias Water Bibarel Floatzel Frogadier
    MeatShield#236 1950-7553-3565 Thomas Meatshield Bug Combee Beautifly Pinsir
    MercenaryPen 4227-2044-9144 MercenPen Flying Pidgey Tranquill Hawlucha
    Mtg_player_zach 1590-5500-0148 Zach Zach Electric Pikachu Dedenne Luxio
    NeoPhoenix0 2852-8259-2899 Victoria NeoPhoenix Water Octillery Floatzel Azumarill
    noparlpf 0705-3326-2027 Jude Jude Flying Spearow Woobat Rufflet
    OracleofWuffing 2234-7142-0224 T-Dawg Dragon Dragonair Gabite Sligoo
    Othesmo 0533-5350-5769 Gaius Electric Emolga Electabuzz Manectric
    Partof1 4313-0044-7312 Magnus Tom Bug Ledyba Beautifly Vivillon
    Peelee 5370-1262-5440 Peelee Peelee Flying Pidgey Tranquill Rufflet
    Peelee'sWife 4339-2708-2563 Sephrenea Sephrenea Ice Delibird Sneasel Lapras
    Perkinz 1993-7396-5551 Armads Fighting Pancham Mienfoo Riolu
    PingPongAlong 4914-4022-6171 Pierre Jake Psychic Wobbuffet Gothorita Abra
    ProphetRipley 3437-3875-9174 Artemis Carebear Water Bibarel Gyarados
    Psychotic 2836-0282-0242 Jimmy Jimmy Steel Forretress Mawile Klefki
    Quietus 3067-5701-8746
    Qwertystop 1805-2284-9978 Qwertystop Qwerty Dark Mightyena Crawdaunt Absol
    Rezkeshdadesh 0104-0343-1530 Gaston/Sylthia Rezzy Psychic Espurr Grumpig Girafarig
    RisingPhoenix 2492-5555-9928 Mortimer Dimi Psychic Sigilyph Abra Xatu
    RyuhoTsugu 3823-9797-6825 Periphas εχθρός Fire Growlithe Charmeleon Fletchinder
    SaintRidley 1650-2179-8114 AElfgif/DońaXimena ColbertJr Ice Beartic Snover
    Sajiri 0748-2783-1667 Sadi Sajiri Psychic Abra Espurr Xatu
    Sasaisen 2380-3648-0994 Trevor Sasaisen Grass Pansage Petilil Maractus
    ScowlingDragon 2148-8339-5834 Ground Sandshrew Marowak Diggersby
    Seerow 4184-2537-0787 Jack Psychic Grumpig Gothorita Sigilyph
    Shinken 4442-0172-6654 Shinken Flying Pidgey Hoothoot Fletchinder
    ShinyRocks 2294-4502-1203 Joelio Ice Snover Beartic Cloyster
    SKarious 2449-5207-9736 Shai Poison Kakuna Ariados Drapion
    spectralphoenix 1864-9713-0312 Alex Normal Teddiursa Minccino Smeargle
    Squark 4571-1588-1000 Squark Fighting Meditite Sawk Hariyama
    Svata 5215-0731-7054
    Talvereaux 2406-5576-5996 Poison Seviper Ariados Toxicroak
    TamerBill 4828-4410-2451 Bex Bill Poison Venomoth Gloom
    Terazul 3411-1167-8365 Pen Pen Water Frogadier Wartortle Bibarel
    TheSuccubus 4613-7683-1174 Doc
    TheGeckoKing 4098-2424-2486 Martin Martin Psychic Grumpig Espurr
    ThelazyMage 2938-7262-8516 Eric Eric Dark Nuzleaf Sandile Absol
    ThePhantom 2680-8881-4704 GR Ghost Shuppet Pumpkaboo Drifblim
    Thormag 0619-3578-2378 Thormag Grass Oddish Petilil Quilladin
    Togath 1650-2364-0504 Merry Ken Flying Pidgey Tranquill
    Tono 1478-3812-1377 Tono Bug Butterfree Heracross Masquerain
    truenekomancer 0619-4369-0275 TSK Bug Butterfree Illumise
    Tylorious 3668-7804-7430 Tylor Tylor Fire Charmeleon Magmar Braixen
    urbanwolf 4425-1730-5201 King Fighting Pancham Mankey Tyrogue
    userpay 2036-6900-9795 userpay Fairy Togepi Spritzee
    Winterfate 1246-9091-8502 Winterfate Ice Snorunt Bergmite Cloyster
    WJMill 3625-8308-8437 Whitney Whitney Fighting Machoke Throh Breloom
    Woodzyowl 0834-2121-7393 Woodzy
    Wookieetank 5386-8601-6140
    YukiAkuma 1633-4400-9136 Yuki Will Ghost Shuppet Phantump
    ZamielVanWeber 3067-5161-6274 Zamiel Electric Electabuzz Pachirisu Galvantula
    ZeltArruin 3840-5756-8123 ZeltArruin Rock Corsola Dwebble Rhydon
    Olinser 1564-3913-5983 Rock Nosepass Pupitar Barbaracle
    Razade 0748-3672-5689
    Svata 1135-1418-6004


    Pokémon GO Trainer Codes

    Pokémon GO uses a 12-digit Trainer Code for long-range interaction between players, similar to (and the same code length as) the 3DS Friend Codes.

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    GitP Username PoGo Username Trainer Code
    LoyalPaladin LoyalPaladin 5954-8354-6061
    Red Fel RedFel 4859-1642-8609
    Unseenmage Draqoun 7679 1541 1229


    Helpful Links/Hints For Adventuring Ten Year Olds
    Bulbapedia: Like Wikipedia, but Pokémon.
    Smogon: In-depth discussion and analysis of competitive Pokémon.
    Serebii: Comprehensive fansite that can be useful in how it organizes information differently from Bulbapedia. Also has an IV calculator.
    Pokémon Showdown: For playing competitive Pokémon battles, without the need to actually manually train your team.

    Spoiler: Breeding for Dummies
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    So, you're tired of navigating a Pokemon thread where everyone uses fancy words and stuff? Well no worries! Here's a guide on... BREEDING FOR DUMMIES!

    One of the first things to remember in breeding is that there are Natures that help and ones that hinder. For instance, a Special Attacker such as Mewtwo would be hindered by an Adamant nature, but helped in his stat growth by a Modest nature. To improve your chances for getting a particular Nature in a child Pokémon, use at least one parent with the Nature you want, and give it the Everstone. In Gen IV, the Everstone doesn't guarantee the inherited Nature, though it does in Gen V and VI.

    Brilliant Spreadsheet for Growth.

    Some IVs (don't know what an IV is? Check the next spoiler box!) are randomly inherited from the parents. You can lock in a maximum of one IV by giving a parent the corresponding Power training item (Power Bracer for Attack, Power Lens for Special Attack, and so forth), or (starting with XY) randomly inherit 5 (instead of the normal 3) by holding the Destiny Knot. Use Flat Battles to determine the IVs of a hatched Pokémon, or if you only care about the highest IV and the sum of all of its IVs, you can take it to a guy who's in the lobby of either the Battle Tower or the Battle Subway in the DS games, depending on the generation, and in the Kiloude City Pokémon Center in XY. You're looking for them to judge it Relatively Superior overall and Can't Be Better in its best stat. The XY judge will also tell you about any really bad IVs the Pokémon has.

    The third main thing with breeding is Egg Moves. Egg moves are moves the parent has, and passes down to a child. For instance, in my breeding of Chimchar, the egg moves are Grass Knot and Swords Dance, which are passed down to the child who gets said moves from the start. In order to pass on most Egg Moves, the father must know the move (Genderless Pokémon never learn Egg Moves). These include all of the moves that are listed as the child Pokémon's Egg Moves in a move list chart, as well as any compatible TMs or HMs. You can also pass on moves that the child would learn by level-up that aren't in those two lists--for these, both parents must know the move. In XY, some moves can be inherited from the mother...

    The fourth and final thing to keep in mind are Hidden Abilities. Starting in Generation V, most Pokémon were assigned an additional ability that they could only get if you caught them under certain circumstances (the special Darmanitan in Desert Resort, or Pokémon found in hidden grottoes, the Dream World, or some in Friend Safaris). Some Hidden Abilities are highly sought-after, like Dragonite's Multiscale. If the mother has the Hidden Ability, the children will inherit it. The father can occasionally pass down the Hidden Ability if bred with a Ditto.


    Spoiler: A Primer on How Stats Work
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    Don't feel the need to bother with this stuff unless you're playing against humans or at one of those "Battle Whatever" places. You shouldn't need it for most of the game, and it can be kind of a pain.

    First, the equations. These are how the game calculates the Pokémon's final stats.
    HP = (IV + 2*Base + EV/4) * Level/100 + 10
    Others = ((IV + 2*Base + EV/4) * Level/100 + 5) * Nature
    So, at level 100, 1 IV or 4 EV raises a Pokémon's stat by 1 while a 1 point difference in Base stat is worth 2.

    Nature
    Most natures raise one stat and lower another, while some don't change any stats. A raised stat has a multiplier of 1.1 (or +10%), a lowered stat has a multiplier of 0.9 (or -10%), and a neutral stat has a multiplier of 1.0.

    Base Stats (Base)
    With a new generation just out, there's a lot of talk about finding out about a Pokémon's base stats. What are these, some of you ask? Well, they're modifiers to stats that a Pokémon gains just by being that kind of Pokémon. A (normal) Tyranitar has a base Attack of 135, a Mewtwo has 154 base Special Attack, and so on. When a Pokémon's stats change as it Mega Evolves or changes Form, it does so by changing the set of base stats it looks at. Otherwise, these base stats can't be changed (hence the "base"). At level 100, a Pokémon gets twice its Base stat to its final stats.

    Individual Values (IV)
    In addition to base stats, every Pokémon gets a bonus of 0-31 points applied to each stat. So a level 100 Tyranitar could have an attack stat of 273, or it could have a attack of 304. That bonus is the IV.
    A Pokémon has its IVs generated the moment you meet it, or accept its egg, and there's no way to change them (though Hyper Training in Sun/Moon gives you the stat bonuses as if the IVs were 31, but you have to train the Pokémon up to level 100 first). You're stuck with what you've got. However, you can influence them a little, if you're willing to breed. Bred Pokémon don't randomly generate all their IVs, they inherit up to 3 from their parents. Starting in XY, giving a parent the Destiny Knot causes them to inherit five random IVs instead. There's a few other ways of influencing IVs in bred Pokémon, which are explained in the breeding section.
    In addition, starting in XY, some Pokémon are guaranteed to have some "perfect" (31) IVs. Pokémon found in the Friend Safari will have two random perfect IVs, while Pokémon that can't breed will have 3.

    Effort Values (EV)
    Every time you win a fight, your Pokémon get experience, but that's not all they get. Every Pokémon also gives out effort points. For every 4 effort points in a particular stat, your Pokémon gains 1 point in it. So if that Tyranitar from earlier with 304 attack had 4 attack EVs, his actual attack would be 305. If he had 252 attack EVs, it'd be 367. Sounds handy, but there are limits. You can't have more than 255 points in a single stat, and you can't have more than 510 EVs in total.

    You'll see a lot of Pokémon with 252 attack/special attack EVs, 252 speed, and 4 HP, but there are a lot of ways to configure them. Defensive Pokémon will obviously focus on different things, Pokémon which use both physical and special attacks will need to split EVs between them or possibly sacrifice speed, and so on.

    It's a tremendous pain to work out what EVs your Pokémon has (if you weren't keeping track, anyway), so you'll likely want to start with a Pokémon that you freshly hatched and work from there, though you don't have to. There are 6 berries that reduce EVs in a single stat each, so you can use those to reset your Pokémon and start from scratch. After that, just keep a careful record of what you fight, and only take down Pokémon that you know give you the EVs you want.

    EV training takes a while, but there are a few ways you can speed it up. The first is an astonishingly rare status condition called Pokérus. Any Pokémon with Pokérus gets double EVs from fights, and will spread the Pokérus to any Pokémon in your party for the first 72 hours after it catches it. After those 72 hours it stops being contagious, but still gets double EVs. Pokérus has something like 1/20000 chance to appear on wild Pokemon, but with the magic of the internet I'm sure you can obtain it.

    The second way to speed up EV training is through Power Items. If a Pokémon is holding the right item, they get bonus EVs from every fight. For example, a Pokémon holding a Power Lens will get 4 special attack EVs. A Pokémon holding a Power Anklet will get 4 speed EVs. A Pokémon holding a Macho Brace will just get double the EVs of whatever they're fighting. These bonuses are doubled if you have Pokérus.

    The third way to speed up EVs is through vitamins. Each vitamin given to a Pokémon gives them +10 EVs in a certain stat, up to a limit of 100. 1 protein gives 10 attack EVs, 10 give 100. These unfortunately aren't doubled by Pokérus or items, so you'll have to pay for the full amount. Luckily money is easy to come by in these games.

    Just as an example, I'll show how I EV'd my Gengar.
    First, I gave him 10 calcium, and 10 carbos, so 100 special attack and 100 speed already.
    After that, I gave him Pokérus and a lucky egg, got him to meet a Floatzel (2 speed EVs, doubled to 4 because of Pokérus), and then sent out my Weezing to explode on it so Gengar could get all the experience, for a higher level and 100 special attack, 104 speed.
    After that, I gave him a Power Lens, flew over to the Old Chateau, and killed 15 Gastly (1 special attack from Gastly, 4 from the lens, doubled to 10 from Pokérus) for 150 special attack EVs, bringing my total to 250 special attack, 104 speed.
    After that I equipped a power anklet and killed one more Gastly (1 special attack from Gastly, 4 speed from the anklet, doubled to 2 and 8 from Pokérus), meaning Gengar had 252 attack, and 112 speed.
    Leaving the anklet equipped, I flew to Route 201, and killed 14 Starly (1 speed from Starly, 4 from the anklet, meaning 10 speed per starly thanks to Pokérus), for a total of 252 attack, 252 speed.
    All that was left after that was to kill a Bidoof with a Power Weight (1 HP from Bidoof, 4 from the Weight, 10 thanks to Pokerus, although I only gained 6 points because I hit the EV cap), leaving my Gengar with 252 special attack EVs, 252 Speed, and 4 HP, just how I wanted him.
    Roughly an hour's work, and one Pokemon down.

    In XYORAS, you can alternatively train your Pokémon through Super Training, a set of minigames accessed through the bottom screen. In Sun and Moon, you can instead use Isle Evelup, which isn't fast, but can train up to 18 Pokémon at a time even when you aren't playing the game.


    tl;dr: The simplified version of EVs/IVs - EVs are gained by fighting other Pokémon. They vary by the Pokémon defeated. They increase your stats for every 4 gained. IVs are inherent to a Pokémon. They increase stats for every point possessed, and range from 0 to 31. EVs have to be manually tracked or else removed entirely with certain berries. IVs can be checked by knowing the EVs of a Pokémon and then plugging its stats into an IV calculator. The higher the Pokémon's level, the more accurate; level 100 wifi battles provide maximum accuracy. Additionally, Sun/Moon offers a graphical representation of a Pokémon's IVs if you unlock the Judge by visiting the Battle Tree.

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    It really is too bad all the scattered PoGo friend codes from the last thread didn't make it into the OP.

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    I'll look to see if I can find them all when I update the OP later today.
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    Some of the Pokemon are very weak in Let's Go. A
    Obviously it all Generation 1 Pokemon. But I like this game regardless.

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    I don't think Blastoise CAN have Rapid Spin in Let's Go. From what I understand neither Defog nor Rapid Spin are available at all in that meta, because you can't breed so there's no egg moves and Defog isn't an available tutor. Stealth Rock is of course still around, though, so, y'know, wreck 'em I guess.

    This meta is interesting but I probably won't invest too much time into it with a new Pokemon game coming soon. I did decide to get Pokemon Red to play through, though, so that should tide me over.
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    Just started playing pokemon go, what should I know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manticoran View Post
    Just started playing pokemon go, what should I know?

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    Your friends list is a nice source of extra Pokeballs.

    Remember to feed extra berries to pokemon you have in gyms for bonus stardust.

    Clicking once on pokemon that could be shiny and leaving the encounter is an effective method of finding shinies.

    Dont be afraid to walk up and chat up local players, they're usually pretty cool and can often connect you to local raid groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseenmage View Post
    Your friends list is a nice source of extra Pokeballs.

    Remember to feed extra berries to pokemon you have in gyms for bonus stardust.

    Clicking once on pokemon that could be shiny and leaving the encounter is an effective method of finding shinies.

    Dont be afraid to walk up and chat up local players, they're usually pretty cool and can often connect you to local raid groups.
    What do you mean about clicking on a pokemon that could be shiny?

    I got a shiny castform my first day. Its stats are garbage, but hell it's pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manticoran View Post
    What do you mean about clicking on a pokemon that could be shiny?

    I got a shiny castform my first day. Its stats are garbage, but hell it's pretty.
    So not every pokemon in PoGo can be shiny yet.
    Tapping on a pokemon let's you try to fight it, right?
    If its shiny it will look different, and have that shiny symbol.over the name.
    If it's not shiny, you just run away and tap new pokemon until you find a shiny.

    Because catching everything takes time and potentially shiny pokemon can de-spawn and disappear while you're catching junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseenmage View Post
    So not every pokemon in PoGo can be shiny yet.
    Tapping on a pokemon let's you try to fight it, right?
    If its shiny it will look different, and have that shiny symbol.over the name.
    If it's not shiny, you just run away and tap new pokemon until you find a shiny.

    Because catching everything takes time and potentially shiny pokemon can de-spawn and disappear while you're catching junk.
    Are shiny pokemon actually any mechanically better? Because I'm still level 9, so I kind of need to catch everything I can I think right now.

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    not better, just hard to find unless you can make it to Community Days.

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    My team dragon from Pokemon Let's Go are garbo (urban slang for garbage). What am I doing wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    My team dragon from Pokemon Let's Go are garbo (urban slang for garbage). What am I doing wrong?
    That depends, we don't know what you're doing to begin with.

    Part of the story is probably that monotype teams just aren't very good in general. Everyone brings a way to counter dragons, and ones that's on the field you have nothing to switch into, just as your fire team probably got sweeped by a water typed mon a lot.
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    That depends, we don't know what you're doing to begin with.

    Part of the story is probably that monotype teams just aren't very good in general. Everyone brings a way to counter dragons, and ones that's on the field you have nothing to switch into, just as your fire team probably got sweeped by a water typed mon a lot.
    Well I use Mega Blastoise, Alohan Exeggutor, Mega Charizard X, Mega Aerodactyl, Mega Gyarados, and Dragonite.

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    You can use four mega's on one team in Let's Go?

    Okay, that's new to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvl 2 Expert View Post
    You can use four mega's on one team in Let's Go?

    Okay, that's new to me.
    I was playing the Pokemon Let's Go Overused game. You can only use one mega Pokemon.

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    Karnitis beats Lvl 2 Expert. Want to build a monotype team? Learn from Karnitis!

    The just for fun rematch was a lot closer.
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    I have made mono-Normal my thing the past 3 gens. For fun, I even made a normal-PU team. I track my success if I'm able to knockout a single person's pokemon.

    Delcatty, Kecleon, Furrett, Dunsparce, Castform, and Spinda.

    It is beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnitis View Post
    I have made mono-Normal my thing the past 3 gens. For fun, I even made a normal-PU team. I track my success if I'm able to knockout a single person's pokemon.

    Delcatty, Kecleon, Furrett, Dunsparce, Castform, and Spinda.

    It is beautiful.
    What does PU mean? I do love that kind of personal-challenge stuff though. Optimization within limitations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manticoran View Post
    What does PU mean? I do love that kind of personal-challenge stuff though. Optimization within limitations.
    It's a lower tier. Ubers-OU-UU-RU-NU-PU-sort of ZU that has been a less official thing for the last 2 gens. (And then there's untiered, which is about half of all Pokémon, they don't cut it in any of these tiers. There are too many Pokémon...) Unlike the others (overused, underused) PU doesn't stand for anything. Apparently just "PU" means body odor, meaning these Pokémon stink. I personally "mind-pronounce" it as Practically Useless, but officially that's wrong.

    It's a cool tier, lots of not quite useless Pokémon with one or two good tricks up their sleeves. The kind of mon you could use in the single player and feel pretty good about, basically. Some can even be used well as high as in OU.

    Aside from the ever growing list of tiers there are also a whole bunch of other metagames, where the rules are different rather than the mon. I've been meaning to try the "2V2 Doubles" concept, but it seems to be quite dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvl 2 Expert View Post

    Aside from the ever growing list of tiers there are also a whole bunch of other metagames, where the rules are different rather than the mon. I've been meaning to try the "2V2 Doubles" concept, but it seems to be quite dead.
    Because I love Normals, and most (98%) are below OU, I'm vaguely familiar with the bottom tiers. NU (never used) is the lowest official tier I think, but below that is PU (body odor), FU (**** You), and ZU (because Z is the last letter, I suppose). Though agreed with Expert, due to the abundance of other pokes out, many halfway-decent Pokémon have been relegated to Untiered simply because there is at least one duplicate that matches the stats of type of any other pokemon but-better or but-bigger-movepool.

    I love Doubles more than Singles because any Singles pokemon can still be good in Doubles, but there are also Pokémon specifically tiered for Doubles in the game. See: Oranguru, Mega-Audino. Not to mention in changes the viability of many moves >>Earthquake hits everyone. So if you plan for that (Telepathy, flying-type), you're fine. Otherwise, maybe you want to pick a new move instead. Or Surf + Water Absorb. It just really widens the playing field.

    It also allows me to do Lickilicky + Choice Band + Explosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnitis View Post
    Because I love Normals, and most (98%) are below OU, I'm familiar with the bottom tiers. NU (never used) is the lowest official tier I think, but below that is PU (body odor), FU (**** You), and ZU (because Z is the last letter, I suppose)
    ZU is Zero Use, it used to be called FU, but that was deemed mildly inappropriate. PU is a real tier these days, so NU is no longer the lowest one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvl 2 Expert View Post
    Karnitis beats Lvl 2 Expert. Want to build a monotype team? Learn from Karnitis!

    The just for fun rematch was a lot closer.
    Both battles are awesome. I love Pokemon battles.

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    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-886842341

    The NARROWEST of victories of Karnitis over Piggy Knowles.

    Also, at this point I've gone against a sand team and a rain team. My next opponent is obligated to use a sun team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnitis View Post
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-886842341

    The NARROWEST of victories of Karnitis over Piggy Knowles.

    Also, at this point I've gone against a sand team and a rain team. My next opponent is obligated to use a sun team.
    That battle was bonkers! LOL!

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    tgva8889 defeats boj0 in a tight match!

    That miss with the High Jump Kick, wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgva8889 View Post
    tgva8889 defeats boj0 in a tight match!

    That miss with the High Jump Kick, wow.
    Nice. That battle was very long.

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    1. So much Swords Dance
    2. I had no idea Tapu Bulu was such a tank. He might be fun for a Grass mono, along with some other tanks (M-Venu, Ferro)

    Another great battle!

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    By the way, as a prediction for Sword and Shield:

    IF Sword and Shield do in fact get a thing called armor(ed) evolution (there are some loose rumors)
    and IF that's essentially just the same thing as mega evolution
    and IF they make like a few dozen of these forms max but Charizard immediately gets two of them
    I will seriously consider being officially done with this franchise.

    (Armored Pikachu on the other hand would be pretty cool.)
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    Perhaps armored for any pokemon and mega only for final evolutions?

    I think a "rule" like this would allow us to be hesitantly expectant of new forms without the eternal limbo that is waiting to find out what BS nonsense pokecrud gets to be mega before our fav best friend mon.
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