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2019-07-07, 06:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-20, 01:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
It still exists in most games in some form: if you haven't checked out the 2019 cricket world cup final, you definitely should.
Fwiw, I my own random thesis with self selective evidence (hey, I'm human) is that good sportsmanship is mostly caused by a sense of the game, and the society it sits in, being part of an extended self: and while that sense is generally less than it might have been in De Coubertin's time, at least among participants that history bothered passing on to us, there will always be instances that buck the trend.
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2019-07-24, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
This isn't a firsthand account, and for that I'm sorry. But my second cousin who played gridiron football in highschool picked rugby later on and ended up greatly preferring it. One thing that he's told me about the sport is that there's something of a tradition of courtesy associated with it. Such as the winning squad buys beer for the losers and taking penalties calmly and without argument.
Not sure how true that actually is, but if it's true, it seems almost surreal in how sportsmanlike it is.
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2019-07-24, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2019-07-25, 02:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
"None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2019-07-25, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Last edited by halfeye; 2019-07-25 at 08:53 AM.
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2019-07-25, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Its about the value system. What to people put at the top of their value pyramid thats the question.
If someone is placing being first above the fair play then all kinds of bad things will happen. But if someone's main goal is fair play and then possible victory then we have a good situation. The thing is all it takes is one idiot.
I watched recently a documentary where a cheater in boxing was using tempered gloves and he won the battle seriously ruining the life of the losing boxer... Thats because he valued winning more than sportsmanship.
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2019-07-25, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
I will try my best not to politic up the place, give my opinion, or pass judgment.
There was a point when being polite in politics was demanded . . . maybe it was the right amount, or maybe it was just too much . . . and than it stopped somewhere around the 1980's. The stopper is honest and open about the stopping, spells it out, and this stopping is not argued over occurring. We likely at some degree follow the examples of our leaders.Last edited by darkrose50; 2019-07-25 at 02:04 PM.
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2019-08-06, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Strong disagree. Sportsmanship died with dedicated servers. Anyone remember duels in Jedi Knight? Not a single person would attack on sight during the duels. It was always a bow from both players, then the fight. Playing First Person Shooters, namely Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, I can remember a single instance of someone coming to our clan's server and calling names/being rude.
Before that I remember sniping in Team Fortress Classic with 3 second ping. I would be trying to acquire targets in the middle of close-in fights and since I was effectively harmless, most people left me alone for the most part to try to get a lucky kill.
Queuing to play a 'competitive game' where you don't know anyone, noone knows you, and the only goal is domination of the other side for a rank-up, killed civility in games.Last edited by Aiatokko; 2019-08-06 at 10:12 PM.
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2019-08-06, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
It was happening long before video games made the scene. I can remember kids mobbing a downed player in 8YO Soccer when I was younger. It was a standard tactic, one the coaches encouraged.
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2019-09-11, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Showdown is Smogon, for most intents and purposes. You're not a real Pokémon fan untill you have been banned or chased off by Smogonites. They just take themselves way too serious and react downride toxic to anyone not living by their rules.
They make great tier lists though.Last edited by Lvl 2 Expert; 2019-09-11 at 05:23 AM.
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2019-09-11, 06:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
The amount also greatly varies between different games, because each game has it's own culture. Even then it can be difficult to determine what exactly is good sportsmanship, in Chess I tend to resign once I have reason to believe I can't win in order to let my opponent play against somebody they'll have a more fulfiling game with, but I know people who disagree with this practice and insist that every game should be played to checkmate.
Rugby is somewhat weird, and from my experience of rugby players the winners buying the losers a round wouldn't be too unusual. You also do not argue with the referee, IIRC doing so can get you sent off the pitch more easily than losing a leg does, and you also just suck up your minor injuries and continue playing after getting a plaster.
Like in all seriousness, the rugby games I've been to probably had the first aid kit brought out every ten minutes or so, and everybody just allowed the injured person to get patched up before they continued. And there is fairly big money in rugby here, considering that it's the traditional sport of upper crust schools, although nowhere near as much as in association football.
The saying is 'football is a gentleman's sport played by hooligans, rugby is a hooligan's sport played by gentlemen' and it is remarkably accurate.
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2019-09-11, 06:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
The real gentlemen play snooker .
I used to watch it a lot on Eurosport and you could honestly see the sportsmanship being on display.
I'm sure someone already posted something like it, but what little sportsmanship existed was probably killed by the facelessness of online gaming. Like many aspects of our culture that has moved online it's harder to be a jerk in person, especially when your surroundings disapprove. Not that "in person" solves everything, that last part needs to exist too.
In table top miniature gaming there were tournaments that rewarded "soft" aspects (sportmanship, painting etc) of the hobby and those that did not. The latter would generally be much more unpleasant experiences for the average participant. Though for some reason even the most hardcore gamer types insisted it wasn't sporting when I threatened to break their legs with a baseball bat. Suddenly, "anything to win is ok" didn't mean the same anymore.
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2019-09-11, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Ooohhhh, so you're saying they're a fan community! Always preferred Bulbapedia myself, but I like play the way I want to, so that explains that.
Ah, the time-honored sports of Headbrick and Super Headbrick!
Also, what's soccer? A hooligan sport played by hooligans?Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-09-11, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
I didn't get into competitive Magic for this reason (also because I'm terrible at building decks, despite being a pretty decent player).
No, football is a gentleman's sport played by gentlemen. American football is a hooligan's sport played by hooligans. Australian football is a hooligan's sport played by reformed and productive members of society.
Also don't knock Headbrick, my university was a leader in the sport. Students were found to be more skilled at it than the previous sport of Canerear.
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2019-09-11, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-09-11, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Forum Wisdom
Mage avatar by smutmulch & linklele.
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2019-09-11, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Worse. They're a fan community for a game series aimed primarily at 10 year olds who see themselves as a university except they take themselves more serious than an actual university does and they don't get paid for putting up with people who are still learning.
You can ask the most reasonable question in a Showdown chatroom, someone will start talking about you rather than to you about what a [making love] [slur for the mentally challenged] you are. That's called getting Smogon'd.Last edited by Lvl 2 Expert; 2019-09-11 at 12:52 PM.
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2019-09-11, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Can we just call what Anonymouswizard wants to term football and Peelee term soccer the technical term of Association Football and nip the whole 'which one's football?' back-and-forth in the bud? Once people start flipping between usages mid-response to each other, all you are doing it confusing the reader over what we're even talking about.
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2019-09-11, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Whatever Happened To Good Sportsmanship And Respect In Games?
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2