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    Quote Originally Posted by Buufreak View Post
    In a converse vein, it is rather cheesy to take only the first level of a savage progression and still call yourself monstrous. At that point you are essentially any phb race with a coat of paint.
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    Unless the rule has been explicitly stricken, the savage progressions state that once you begin one, you must complete it before you move on to something else.
    The savage progressions in the Savage Progressions series of articles on the WotC website do not need to be completed, but they are the exception. Those found in books like Savage Species and Libris Mortis do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kool View Post
    That is entirely fair. For obvious example, squeezing in those extra HD for more epic feats.
    Oh, geeze, having more than 20 HD does qualify you for epic feats, doesn't it.

    *eyes this CR 11 creature he was considering as a possible basis for his submission*

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    Okay, thanks everyone. Disappointing but workable, and better to find out now than when I'm slapped with a 1 in Elegance, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Oh, geeze, having more than 20 HD does qualify you for epic feats, doesn't it.

    *eyes this CR 11 creature he was considering as a possible basis for his submission*
    Ah-hahahaha mine is so much better at this than that. I have no specific ideas yet, just the vague concept of abusing epic feats. I may turn it into something or may just share the thought later.
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    I guess I'll amend my original statement and instead say that Pathfinder is close enough to 3.5 to spark an argument about how close it actually is.

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    So, just to make sure of something: The VOerall Concept should include a big fat "Nope", but its not necessary to be, say a counterspeller or otherwise "Action annuler", correct? Just someone who "Nopes" stuff?

    Cause I just had a funny Idea....^^
    A neutron walks into a bar and says, “How much for a beer?” The bartender says, “For you? No charge.”

    01010100011011110010000001100010011001010010000001 10111101110010001000000110111001101111011101000010 00000111010001101111001000000110001001100101001011 100010111000101110

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    Yes.

    of course, if you can nope and dispel, or nope and dispel and lockdown, or nope and dispel and lockdown and bfc... you get the idea.

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    I've followed these off and on. Hell, I've judged a few. What is the precedence of epic spell usage? I don't recall any specific builds that used them before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buufreak View Post
    I've followed these off and on. Hell, I've judged a few. What is the precedence of epic spell usage? I don't recall any specific builds that used them before.
    Specifically excluded from this round, at least.

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    Some monstrous characters can technically qualify for Epic feats as soon as their ECL is over 20. While regular Epic feats will be allowed, Epic Spellcasting and all other Epic feats that affect spells, psionic powers, or item creation are not permitted. Including these would give an unfair advantage over standard characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogglesmash View Post
    I guess I'll amend my original statement and instead say that Pathfinder is close enough to 3.5 to spark an argument about how close it actually is.

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    Because it's relevant and an edge case, as well as possibly the best epic feat in the game, is Spell Stowaway one of those that "affects spells" and is thus banned from this competition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Because it's relevant and an edge case, as well as possibly the best epic feat in the game, is Spell Stowaway one of those that "affects spells" and is thus banned from this competition?
    Spell Stowaway [Epic]

    Prerequisites
    Spellcraft 24 ranks, caster level 12th.

    Benefit
    Choose a spell-like ability you have, or a spell you can cast. You are attuned to the magic you choose. If another spellcaster within 300 feet of you uses this magic, you also immediately gain the magic’s effect as if it had been used on you by the same caster. You must have direct line of effect to the spellcaster in order to gain the benefit of the attuned magic (though you do not have to know the spellcaster is present, and you can be flat-footed). The magic’s duration, effect, and other specifics are determined by its original caster’s level.

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    You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, it applies to a different spell or spell-like ability.
    While regular Epic feats will be allowed, Epic Spellcasting and all other Epic feats that affect spells, psionic powers, or item creation are not permitted. Including these would give an unfair advantage over standard characters.
    I would say Spell Stowaway definitely falls into the category of Epic feats that affect spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kool View Post
    Specifically excluded from this round, at least.
    Well there I go, being blind as all else again. Feel free to hold that against me when scores come up for disputes.

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    Build completed and submitted, now I find myself once again in limbo, with nothing to do but wait. I suppose I could try to come up with a second idea for an entry...
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    We can do multiple entries? ...probably won't due to time constraints (I won't have time to work on it until next weekend), but it might help me pick one to start with. I'm stuck on race, because it's not critical to the theme of the build, but drastically changes the way the theme is directed.

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    you're allowed up to 2 entries


    While everyone's building, I went back and put all the completed tables into the first posts of the rounds i've chaired. should make it easier to find things if you need to :)
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    So I've had a stroke of inspiration, and decided 100% on my chassis. Now to flesh it out and optimise it.

    Ten days to go...I got this!

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    Phew, got my entry in! Now to play the waiting game.

    Very interested to see if anybody else went in the same direction as I have...
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    I'm still waffling on race, and am a little concerned that mine may seem like a one-trick pony. But, we'll see!

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    Default Re: Villainous Competition XXXII: Oh HELL NO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Oh, geeze, having more than 20 HD does qualify you for epic feats, doesn't it.

    *eyes this CR 11 creature he was considering as a possible basis for his submission*
    Oh, that reminds me.

    Does killing people faster than they can act qualify as denying their actions?

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    This competition reminds me of every single Druid, mage, and spider in Baldur's Gate.

    You must gather your party before adventuring forth...

    ~Entangled~
    ~Webbed~
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    ~Slowed~
    ~Held~
    ~Surrounded by half a million bears~

    Just let my fighter hit you already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterKaws View Post
    Does killing people faster than they can act qualify as denying their actions?
    Well you know what they say: death is the best debuff in the game.
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    deadline is saturday, have 3 builds in.
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    It's amazing how these contests get away from me. I have the build stub, but the time to really dig in and perfect it has eluded me. Especially since it's mostly centered around one big trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzlean View Post
    deadline is saturday, have 3 builds in.
    I don't want to do it because it's too obvious. Yet, at the same time, I'm 100% sure no one is going to do because people think others will do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterKaws View Post
    I don't want to do it because it's too obvious. Yet, at the same time, I'm 100% sure no one is going to do because people think others will do it.
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    I have my tables done except for skill points. I should make it in under the deadline.

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    Deadline approaching: more than half done, but still a bit of work to go. I'm going to need to cram - also, I have an annual beer festival on Friday, so most of my work will need to be today and tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Deadline approaching: more than half done, but still a bit of work to go. I'm going to need to cram - also, I have an annual beer festival on Friday, so most of my work will need to be today and tomorrow.
    Made a lot of progress, then didn't save the document properly.

    Have to play it by ear at this stage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Made a lot of progress, then didn't save the document properly.

    Have to play it by ear at this stage...
    Sorry to hear that, that's among the very worst feelings in the world. Good luck getting finished in time! I've always enjoyed your entries.
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    Default Re: Villainous Competition XXXII: Oh HELL NO!

    Not gonna get my builds in till the deadline, sorry.

    The simple one was too simple/Gimmicky, and I simply didnt have the time to make the vastly complicated other Build work (or to find out it didnt work mayhap^^).

    Open to Judging though. ;)
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    01010100011011110010000001100010011001010010000001 10111101110010001000000110111001101111011101000010 00000111010001101111001000000110001001100101001011 100010111000101110

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    Default Re: Villainous Competition XXXII: Oh HELL NO!

    Interesting theme. Not something I'd know what to do with (especially since I'm more comfortable with making good villainous fluff than crunch), but interesting. Posting to watch and judge the results, and to see if the next competition's theme is one that inspires me.
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