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Thread: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
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2019-06-17, 04:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
I miss the days when people used to say let's agree to disagree, or just not post at all, when they don't want to continue a discussion, instead of demanding the other side to quit. Truly, those were the days, my friends.
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2019-06-17, 04:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 04:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
More popular nowadays is the declaration "We can agree to disagree, but I'm correct and I'm just allowing you to gracefully retain your pride despite being wrong."
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2019-06-17, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
I don't know, woweedd. Do you enjoy arguing with me?
I was explicitly talking about ways that the OOTS could be preserved as the prime movers of the story, I'm just pointing out that in order to do this AND not have ostensibly upstanding and rational supporting cast-members end up looking like obstructive petty morons, you need to take certain toys and goodies away from the Sapphire Guard. The fact that those toys and goodies are later depended upon in order for the OOTS-centric plot to function is not my problem.Give directly to the extreme poor.
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2019-06-17, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-17, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
Your criticisms are invalid because you repeatedly and deliberately misrepresent what other people say and even the text of the comic to try to "win" arguments.
And then you're rude and condescending to people who call you out for doing so.
Why it is so important to you to convince people they're wrong to like this comic that you are willing to stoop so low over and over again is a question best answered by someone with more professional training than I have.
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2019-06-17, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
I'd point out that someone with a negative view of the subject at hand is more likely to accept a narrative which puts down the subject as being inherently wrong so their opinion is justified.
That doesn't mean that all criticism is invalid but it does mean that when there's a piece of critique and there's a positive and a negative explanation someone with a negative opinion might be a bit too quickly inclined to take the negative explanation because it aligns with what they believe and want to be true.
People often say that they don't want the things they dislike to be bad, but once someone's formed an opinion the desire to validate that opinion is quite strong, whether that opinion is positive or negative.
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2019-06-17, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
I feel like the bonus Miko strips go a long way in making her special one complex and the conclusions she draws based on that not seem out of left field. Though I never got why she seems to have been so hated before killing Shojo; until things started to unravel she just seemed like a humorous take on uptight lawful characters and one that fell into the "good is not nice" category. I think it's because people tend to see her specifically as A B*tch. Whereas other characters that are good but gruff/unpleasant/sullen/a smartas*/etc are not seen as "b*tchy."
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2019-06-17, 10:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
I think it had more to do with the fact that many of us have...experiences with Miko-type paladins. Really bad ones. So she was slamming a berserk button something fierce for us.
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2019-06-17, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
The bonus strips make it very clear (along with the inn sequence) that she's very much a moralizing stick-in-the-mud; and what's more, she's this way to her own team, not just to prisoners she's escorting/ people she just met. It's driven home how isolated she is from anyone who might provide some other point of view, some reality check on the notion that she's the chosen of the gods. And the more isolated she is, the more she thinks it's due to her special qualities. It's a vicious cycle and she is stuck in it. I can see why even other paladins hate her company.
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2019-06-18, 02:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-18, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
Last edited by Lacuna Caster; 2019-06-18 at 11:38 AM.
Give directly to the extreme poor.
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2019-06-23, 10:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
There's another way too.
It involves using a simple vehicle to cross a moderate quantity of fluid.An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2019-06-27, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
Define "winning the argument".
If you mean "the other person involved admits your superior logic and powers of rhetoric and tells you you were right all along", most arguments (on the internet or in person) that go on long enough to invoke "just walk away" have also had both sides become so entrenched that realistically, that's not a possibility anyway.
If "winning" means you have made the same points clearly enough that you're sure a neutral observer can understand what you're saying, and said observer would judge between the two sides and draw their own conclusions- well, if you can call it a win in your own mind, then continuing the argument is just a waste of energy you could be spending doing other things, IMO.
TL:DR- sometimes you just have to declare victory, because your opponent will never admit defeat.
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2019-06-27, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-27, 04:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-27, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.
Or, as Joshua puts it in WarGames:
"A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY."Last edited by hamishspence; 2019-06-27 at 03:00 PM.
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2019-06-27, 03:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-27, 06:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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