OOTS #1162 - The Discussion Thread

[Darth Paul]

So much awesome, how did it fit on one page?

"Sometimes you have to leave your cub behind in the den so you can brutally eliminate everything that indirectly threatens him." That's Mom logic right there.

And then there's Minrah and Hilgya, the Big Damn Heroes/ Amazon Brigade/ The Cavalry, and Sigdi all in one strip. I can't love this enough.

[heavyfuel]

Still a poor explanation why he can't blow a single regenerate spell.
but sure.

Yes. Because +2 to AC or like +5 damage from two hands is better than, say, Holy Word. (oh wait, it isn't)

[faustin]

Pray to every deity besides yourself Sigdi gets to die in this this battle and go with Thor, Hel. You don't want to face her in Niflheim after what you did to her son.

[FlawedParadigm]

Multiple bards + large number of allies within earshot = the vampires are boned.

[kiapet]

Okay, let's see. From roughly left to right, we have:

Hoskin
Hoskin's wife
Thandro
Shirra's twins
Durkon's baby cousin (who became a spellcaster, wow)
Squeaky
Dark-skinned bald guy with a crossbow
Squeaky's apprentice
Guy with a lute- possibly another of Squeaky's apprentices
Ponytail girl with an axe
Cousin Logann
Woman with a bun
Shirra
Shirra's husband
Three bearded men with helmets

I'm very curious as to who the family members I didn't recognize from the memories are. Maybe they're kids we didn't meet, especially considering Hoskin got married late, or friends of Durkon's aunts and uncles?

[Gluteus_Maximus]

Hooray! new comic!

What a powerful final panel, especially after the story that got us this far (explaining who they are). I never expected to see the power of "good" so plainly manifest in a situation of dire need. It motivates me to continue being good as well.

At least we know that this is definitely the climax of the 6th book. After this battle, it's speeches, mourning over the dead (cause some of those guys are going to die), and seeing what Team Evil is up to.

[littlebum2002]

Still a poor explanation why he can't blow a single regenerate spell.
but sure.
.

According to C&L geekery, Durkon is only level 12 now, and can't even cast it anymore. Even if he's level 13, casting it would be his sole non-domain 7th level spell for that day. Even if his wisdom is higher than they give him credit for (22-23) and he gets a bonus 7th level spell, him using up half his highest level spells on a day when the entire fate of the world is at stake doesn't make sense.

[Quild]

As a young father, I'm really surprised by Hilgya giving Kudzu's to some unknown peoples care.

And she does seem to have more trust issues than me and my mate!

Multiple bards + large number of allies within earshot = the vampires are boned.

Hope they'll go the same way tout Xykon. Just for pun.

[JumboWheat01]

The family that smites evil together stays together.

[Grey Watcher]

Aw yeah! Extended family of choice FTW!

(I do hope Squeaky's apprentice (her name escapes me at the moment) has improved in the past two or three decades, though.)

Also, how does Sigdi look THAT badass?

[Gluteus_Maximus]

According to C&L geekery, Durkon is only level 12 now, and can't even cast it anymore. Even if he's level 13, casting it would be his sole non-domain 7th level spell for that day. Even if his wisdom is higher than they give him credit for (22-23) and he gets a bonus 7th level spell, him using up half his highest level spells on a day when the entire fate of the world is at stake doesn't make sense.

That should be a typo, though. He was 15th as Greg (could cast Symbol) and was level drained once each by the Resurrection and the Raise Dead. He's 13th level.

[kiapet]

As a young father, I'm really surprised by Hilgya giving Kudzu's to some unknown peoples care.

And she does seem to have more trust issues than me and my mate!

I mean, the alternative is bringing him into battle, which didn't work out great last time. Or waiting for everyone else to defeat the vampires, but that's not Hilgya's style.

[Grey Watcher]

As a young father, I'm really surprised by Hilgya giving Kudzu's to some unknown peoples care.

And she does seem to have more trust issues than me and my mate!



Hope they'll go the same way tout Xykon. Just for pun.

When your co-parent's parent has established that she can end you one-handed, I think that tends to give her daycare recommendations added weight.

[danielxcutter]

DWARVEN BARDS

That is all.

DWARDS!

Okay, that was a bit lame-ish. Still fits though.

Aw yeah! Extended family of choice FTW!

(I do hope Squeaky's apprentice (her name escapes me at the moment) has improved in the past two or three decades, though.)

Also, how does Sigdi look THAT badass?

She's a mom. That probably helps a lot.

[Peelee]

Squeaky's apprentice (her name escapes me at the moment)

Squawky.

[GregTD]

Still a poor explanation why he can't blow a single regenerate spell.
but sure.
a shield is just +1 to AC anyways.
or, wait, plus damage if you use a two handed weapon, like, everybody should.

It actually makes some real world sense.

50+ years without a right arm, she's going to need to get used to one again.

Which would take more than a couple of hours.

And which you really don't want to be doing during a fight for your life

[prism6691]

According to C&L geekery, Durkon is only level 12 now, and can't even cast it anymore. Even if he's level 13, casting it would be his sole non-domain 7th level spell for that day. Even if his wisdom is higher than they give him credit for (22-23) and he gets a bonus 7th level spell, him using up half his highest level spells on a day when the entire fate of the world is at stake doesn't make sense.

When he was a vampire he was able to create a symbol of death, therefore he must have been level 15 minimum. Assuming he actually lost 2 levels per dying twice, he has to be level 13. I can't offhand think of any other 8th levels he has cast other than mass death ward.

[Cicciograna]

This was beautiful and Sigdi is again a confirmed badass-level mom. Woe betide whomever threatens her family, her son, her grandson and heck, even her "almost daughter-in-law".

[Gluteus_Maximus]

As a young father, I'm really surprised by Hilgya giving Kudzu's to some unknown peoples care.

And she does seem to have more trust issues than me and my mate!

Her demeanor has certainly gone from Chaotic to Neutral, for sure, and she's become more shy. But, the theme of this book is that people don't just change who they are in a day. I wouldn't bet on her changing her mind about marriage.

[Peelee]

As a young father, I'm really surprised by Hilgya giving Kudzu's to some unknown peoples care.

As a young father I'm relieved!

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Sigdi and Minrah are awesome, as is this extended family. Relieved to see that Hilgya finally decided to not needlessly risk the life of her son.

[Fyraltari]

Now, this is proper awesome.

[Peelee]

Her demeanor has certainly gone from Chaotic to Neutral

I disagree. She's acting plenty chaotic, IMO.

[ken]

I love Squeeky and Apprentice in their combat bard pose

Ken

[Calemyr]

Still a poor explanation why he can't blow a single regenerate spell.
but sure.
a shield is just +1 to AC anyways.
or, wait, plus damage if you use a two handed weapon, like, everybody should.


But still refreshing to see that not everyone hit it off without reason.

The real reason she refuses the regeneration isn't one Hilgya would have the background or mentality to understand: Sigdi's hand is still down there, holding her husband's. She never let go. That means a whole heck of a lot more to her than regaining a limb she's spent decades learning how not to use.

The tactical value of a hand she is no longer familiar with, or the value of a 7th level slot, is just an excuse, meant more to satisfy Hilgya than honestly answer the question. Sigdi would never accept a regeneration. She would never accept the though that the limb buried with her husband is no longer hers.

[Particle_Man]

So what music would you choose for this part of the strip were it a movie?

[Jasdoif]

I do hope Squeaky's apprentice (her name escapes me at the moment)

Her name is Janna.

[Peelee]

The real reason she refuses the regeneration isn't one Hilgya would have the background or mentality to understand: Sigdi's hand is still down there, holding her husband's. She never let go. That means a whole heck of a lot more to her than regaining a limb she's spent decades learning how not to use.

And if she got her arm Regenerated, her hand would still be down there, and she still would never let go. Regen doesn't take the old matter, it creates new matter.

[Fyraltari]

Some of these guys we never met before. I guess Durkon’s cousins brought their spouses/boy/girlfriends with them. Of course these naturally would have brought their siblings and parents with them who themselves...

Oh Thor, the whole of Firmament is there, isn’t it?

[Peelee]

Her name is Janna.

Well, her NAME name, but everyone calls her Squawky. Similar to her brother, Squicky, who never made it through cleric school. I like Tolkienien naming schemes. And yes, I'm going with Tolkienien.