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2019-05-12, 03:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Playing an empowering wizard!
The title is not meant to be snarky whatsoever!!!! i realized it might sound like I'm being an ass but I just wanna make em happy
My wizard is entirely broken. Can concentrate-on-2-spells for 10 minutes a day, is a UA lore wizard, 32 Int, end-game magic items broken.
On a roleplay level, I know exactly what to do - play a merlin-esque character that doesn't take the spotlight but helps other characters and only steps up to their full power when necessary for survival or for goals to be achieved, buuut-
What do you, hypothetical martial player, want in the way of buffs and spell support?
I can cast any spell of eigth level or lower twice (once with the lore wizard feature, once with wish) a day, and can concentrate, as previously stated, on two spells at the same time.
Fellow casters, what are some spells you have gotten to combine, perhaps with other casters, to great effect? Any recommendations for fun interactions?
I am specifically asking for stuff that isn't world-endingly powerful; i'm looking for tricks and low-level spell interactions that are flavourful and have enough power to not feel like a waste of time, but not be overpowered either!Last edited by Silkensword; 2019-05-12 at 03:42 PM. Reason: title was misleading about question
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2019-05-12, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
My suggestion would be to start following the rules.
Back in my day we used all of our spells before the fight, and it was just a matter of time before the DM realized his encounter was over.
And we walked to our dungeons uphill through the snow, both ways.
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2019-05-12, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
As a wizard, the best buff spells you can muster are:
Mage armor (higher AC for dex chars)
Jump (surprisingly good utility, sometimes in combat too)
Grapplers will want Enlarge/reduce to increase the number of things they can grapple
Sneakers love invisibility
Fighters love magic weapon if they don’t already have one, because they really get boned by resistances.
Might as well bring enhance ability,
Can’t go wrong with haste and fly.
Also, stoneskin is somewhat situational, but really really good on a fighter.
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2019-05-12, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
Honestly, unless the Barbarian has a 32 Str, the Rogue a 32 Dex, the Cleric a 32 Wis, etc... all with similar magic level items as you..... you should retire the silly character and play a real character meant for 5e. That's my 2 cents.
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2019-05-12, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
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2019-05-12, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
Oh yeah they're. all at an enormous power level. It's just that the wizard gets the most abilities to help out the others with their power (maybe alongside our paladin), it's not that there's a balance issue, it's all wildly homebrew and the DM knows just what we can handle, we've fought literal legions of hell and that kinda stuff, CR 32 homebrew creatures at level 16, that kinda stuff. I'd absolutely retire a character that felt like they were silly compared to the world they're in!
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
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Love bugs? Try The Entomancer!
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2019-05-12, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
how did you get 32 int?!
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2019-05-12, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
Oh, and don’t forget water breathing. Since it’s a ritual, you don’t even need to prepare it, just take ten minutes to cast it on the party every morning.
If you have jump and fly, spider climb’s probably not worth while, especially with so many other good level 2 buff spells.
I’d also check out the Investiture of X spells in the Elemental Evil Player’s Companion and Xanathar’s guide, for some good high level buff spells.
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2019-05-12, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
See, when i first joined, my character inherited a homebrew cloak that grants +11 to intelligence- back then, I thought it was gonna be a verrry jokey campaign with characters that breeze through everything and nothing really mattering, after all, on a nat 1, one of the fumble effects, on any nat 1 rolled, is to draw from the deck of many things, or bestow life to inanimate objects.
...turns out, cloak belongs to a dead deity of magic and order, and the fact that _I_ have the cloak is _probably_ part of the reason that Things Are Messed Up? so, now part of my characters quest, who has figured out the connection because her int is. 32, is to restore that deity to life and return the relic, to reign in the chaos in the world.
(the title of the world is "a makeshift world" so the chaos of it all is very much part of the ambience ;D)
thanks for the curiosity!!Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
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2019-05-12, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
Homebrew Spells
Love bugs? Try The Entomancer!
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2019-05-12, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: My Wizard is broken; how do I make my table happy?
My suggestion is to play your character to emphasize his flaws. Make mistakes, don't be afraid of them, but don't let it affect your combat effectiveness. Really play up how much you lack in wisdom, charisma and other stats. Be very rigid in logical solutions and insist certain things are the right way even when you can determine with a bit of insight that they should be the other way. Roll dices for yourself to determine how you decide to treat others, from maybe a list.
Be fun, but only so much as it doesn't annoy the others.
And have fun.
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2019-05-12, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
EDIT: I changed the title since i felt that people might've been misled about the premise of the question!
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
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Love bugs? Try The Entomancer!
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2019-05-12, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
Hold Person/Monster all day long. You aren't actually doing any damage, but you sure as heck are giving those martials a gigantic boost to the damage they land against the enemy.
Otherwise boosts that will help out and not require concentration.
Mage Armor
Longstrider
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True SeeingLast edited by nickl_2000; 2019-05-12 at 04:15 PM.
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2019-05-12, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-05-12, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
You have +19 minimum to hit, and 27 as a save DC, how does anything short of a tarrasque even pose a threat?
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2019-05-12, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
Homebrew Spells
Love bugs? Try The Entomancer!
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2019-05-12, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
Sorry I know this is kind of off topic from what you were asking, but what's the point in having such inflated stats if the monsters also have inflated stats? Bounded accuracy is the same as if you all kept the 20 stat cap.
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2019-05-12, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Playing an empowering wizard!
Bladesinging: Saying "no thank you" to bounded accuracy since 2015.
Link to my Homebrew fighter subclass, The Duelist
Homebrew Spells
Love bugs? Try The Entomancer!