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    I hope we never see this character again. Totally disliked it.
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    OK... I know not to pull this on a major campaign boss, but I'm so tempted to do this on a random encounter against some mooks.
    Like I am right now, my players will all be like "SO! MANY! QUESTIONS!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    It's a reference to this scene from Spaceballs, parodying The Empire Strikes Back:

    Dark Helmet: Before you die, there is something you should know about us, Lone Starr.
    Lone Starr: What?
    Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
    Lone Starr: [confused] What's that make us?
    Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become. Prepare to die.
    Suddenly feel old? Or are we sad that a nerd hasn't seen Spaceballs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crsos View Post
    As Grey_Wolf_c pointed out colored speech balloons usually mean some kind of outsider.
    Angels and archons alike have tended to have black text on a coloured background.

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html

    This being has white text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centaur View Post
    For some reason I read that font as strong chaotic alignment.
    Possibly. [I just wanted to join the queue of "WHAT is this guy?]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cicciograna View Post
    I hope we never see this character again. Totally disliked it.
    I think him being a one-shot gag is also possible. Although if he's as strong as he's made to seem, that would raise plotting questions.
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    Default Re: OOTS #1163 - The Discussion Thread

    First Rich spoofed the "I am your Father" scene, and he now spoofes the spoof by referencing the spoof of the originally spoofed scene in "Spaceballs".

    This is so meta, I think The Giant is going to open a rift in the fabric of reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centaur View Post
    For some reason I read that font as strong chaotic alignment.
    The flashback red slaad seemed to have regular font:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1147.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    This being has white text.
    So has Celia...
    I guess, we'll see more of Cbilnf. It feels too much like a deus ex machina to just have him being a part of the family... Plus he doesn't give his name...

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    Wow. Wasn't expecting that. Now let's see if he can one shot the LDW...

    What would really be funny, for as much grief as the Giant's gotten in the past with people calling this and that plot reveal a deus ex machina, would be for this to be either an avatar of Loki or Thor in disguise.

    My other guess was that this is a relative of Kraggor or that Kraggor didn't really die in the rift, but got shifted elsewhere, and now he's back.

    You've got me who else this might be. Talk about coming from out of nowhere.

    EDIT: LOL. I swear I didn't see Jannoire's post when I wrote this.
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    Ok. This is different. So, what class could he be?
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    Deus ex machina would be if the guy beat not only the golems, but also the evil death worm, then entered the council room and resolved the entire situation by himself.

    As it is, he's just part of the reinforcements dealing with the secondary target that the reinforcements were already handling.

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    I'm glad that the breakup was apparently amicable.
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    Am I the only one who giggled like a middle-schooler at Belkar's "beating the worm hand-to-hand" joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratfox View Post
    ...Also, does it makes sense to say "cousin's brother-in-law's niece"? If she's the niece of the husband of the sister of the cousin, then he could just say cousin's husband's niece, because the sister of the cousin is also a cousin. If on the other hand she's the niece of the brother of the wife of the cousin, then he could just say cousin's wife's niece, because the niece of the brother is also a niece. Hmmm...
    Durkon's cousin has a spouse, who has a brother, who is married to someone whose sibling has a child. The niece is niece to the brother through marriage, but is not the niece of the spouse.

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    I would say that's the dumbest theory Grey Wolf's heard, but, let's be honest: It's Grey Wolf. They've probably heard dumber theories today. Point is, neat idea, but it's a real stretch.
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    I'm actually suprised most by the fact that Durkon knows the family member he's talking about by that description. I can't even follow that much in my own family.

    A large extended family is going to have at least a few very powerful people floating around in it somewhere. This as a natural extention of Durkon's whole family history as it were. Also, I can see that Durkon and his family are the people who will be able to get into the inner sanctum and fix thingsTM So, I'm glad to know that Durkon will have some good backup.
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    ... I think that guys an incarnate. Blue auras, a longsword incarnate weapon would indicate a Law Incarnate... There are definitely soulmelds that would result in an affected voice and glowing eyes... Dwarves make great ones... Yeah the number of soulmelds is kind of light but I wouldn't expect Rich to render all of them, that's unreasonable to ask.

    I suspect this is a cameo from ze Kickstarter or such, someone wanting to see an incarnum user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornithologist View Post
    I'm actually suprised most by the fact that Durkon knows the family member he's talking about by that description. I can't even follow that much in my own family.
    That's because you are not as conscientious of family as Durkon is. Which, to be fair, is all of us, probably. Beating Durkon at family duty is like trying to out-do O-Chul at paladin-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woweedd View Post
    I would say that's the dumbest theory Grey Wolf's heard, but, let's be honest: It's Grey Wolf. They've probably heard dumber theories today. Point is, neat idea, but it's a real stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornithologist View Post
    So, I'm glad to know that Durkon will have some good backup.
    Pun intended?

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    Rich advertises his Champion class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannoire View Post
    Pun intended?
    .... no... Though I would have intended it if I had noticed it....
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    I thought spell-like abilities couldn't be interrupted, but it turns out that Roy knows the rules better than I do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    That's because you are not as conscientious of family as Durkon is. Which, to be fair, is all of us, probably. Beating Durkon at family duty is like trying to out-do O-Chul at paladin-off.
    While true, it's a little surprising that "cousin's brother-in-law's niece" references a unique individual. Maybe he doesn't have many cousins. Your analysis of the relationship a few posts up was very helpful!

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    Guess it's only me who went straight to Tarquin in disguise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turin_19 View Post
    Just came here to see if anyone has already done a family tree in order for me to understand that.
    Durkon has a cousin, let's assume Captain Logann, that cousin has a sibling who is married to a man, that man has a sibling who has a daughter. That daughter is engaged to the concentrated ball of awesomeness seen here.
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    So glad a left handed character is represented here. I was feeling very marginalized until Giant validated my existence (sarcasm). Next we need one named Frank and i will be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannoire View Post
    So has Celia...
    I can't recall any Air Outsiders that look like dwarves though, offhand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toper View Post
    I thought spell-like abilities couldn't be interrupted, but it turns out that Roy knows the rules better than I do.

    While true, it's a little surprising that "cousin's brother-in-law's niece" references a unique individual. Maybe he doesn't have many cousins. Your analysis of the relationship a few posts up was very helpful!
    Durkon only has two cousins, Logan and his sister. When they last met, Logan was (presumably) married to someone who had a brother who was married to someone with a sibling who had a daughter who was dating Thad. As shocking as her breaking up with Thad was, Logan's sister marrying into an identical situation was even less likely, and if Thad's ex's parents had another daughter in the time Durkon was gone, she would be too young to be engaged.
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    Roy had a girlfriend with the same speech ballon. Cilia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by denthor View Post
    Roy had a girlfriend with the same speech ballon. Cilia?
    Yes - she was a Sylph - Outsider from the plane of Air. Other such outsiders include djinn - air genies

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0071.html

    but they look a bit different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toper View Post
    it's a little surprising that "cousin's brother-in-law's niece" references a unique individual.
    It probably only references a unique one at this time: all other possible cousin's brother-in-law's nieces fail in some "obvious" way (obvious to someone capable of picturing an extended family tree, that is): too young, already married, or are nephews and/or cousin's sister-in-law's's, or some combination thereof.

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    Theory: This guy's actually not a Dwarf at all. Through a complex series of events, he's actually a Giant. A VERY SMALL Giant.
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