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    Default Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #35: 3/2 Score And Four Threads Ago

    Q 218

    The dimension door spell (and any ability based on it) specifies "After using this spell, you can’t take any other actions until your next turn."

    Does it mean that you cannot...

    A) Take a free action immediately after the jump?

    B) Take an immediate action until the next turn?

    C) Make attacks of opportunity during this interval?

    D) Or even use special defensive moves, like with Deflect Arrows?
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    A 218

    A) no
    b) no
    c) yes
    d) yes (for that feat)


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    A217 - Limit of an item cost without going into epic is 200,000 gold. (Source: Magic Item Compendium)
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    Q219 - Looking at a template (Arachnoid Creature in "City of the Spider Queen" on P124) and while the template does not list any Level Adjustment, it gives a Challenge Rating of "Same as base creature +1". Do I presume that the template adds no level adjustment, or that it adds 1 LA to the creature?

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    Q219 - Looking at a template (Arachnoid Creature in "City of the Spider Queen" on P124) and while the template does not list any Level Adjustment, it gives a Challenge Rating of "Same as base creature +1". Do I presume that the template adds no level adjustment, or that it adds 1 LA to the creature?
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    No, you never assume that the Level Adjustment is the same as the CR adjustment. They are unrelated things.

    As this is a 3.0 module, and no LA is given for the template, you should assume that it is not fit for use by Player Characters. In other words, treat it as "Level Adjustment: --".
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    A 219 additional

    Just as an FYI, Arachnoid was reprinted in Underdark (3.5), and still not given an LA.

    The topic of whether no listed LA is the same as LA +0, or LA --, is very much debated, and may be beyond the scope of this thread.

    Do note that the template applies a -4 Int penalty, and a creature with less than 3 Int is not allowed as a PC race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pabelfly View Post
    A217 - Limit of an item cost without going into epic is 200,000 gold. (Source: Magic Item Compendium)
    Q 217 extra: Doesn't the DMG exclude the cost of intelligence in a magic item from the gold piece cap?

    If so, the maximum cost of a non-epic item is quite a lot higher because intelligent items are very expensive.
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    Q220
    What happens if you apply a template to a creature that would reduce one or more more mental ability scores to zero?
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    With the Psionics-Magic Transparency rule in use, can you still manifest powers while you're under the effects of Tenser's Transformation, or does the spell block psionic manifestation as well?
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    With the Psionics-Magic Transparency rule in use, can you still manifest powers while you're under the effects of Tenser's Transformation, or does the spell block psionic manifestation as well?
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    You can not manifest powers.
    The summary of psionics-magic transparency says that the default rule is that powers interact with spells and spells interact with powers in the same that a spell or spell-like ability interacts with another spell or spell-like ability.
    Because Tenser's Transformation calls out a specific interaction with other spells, that interaction also applies to powers.
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    In the DMG, pg 203, for the Thrush familiar, under granted abilities, its states:

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    Alignment any.

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    Q223: a) if I have defensive throw and robilar's gambit, and an opponent attacks me and misses, do I get to make two attacks of opportunity - one when they attack me for the gambit, and one when they miss for defensive throw?
    b) the same question with robilar's gambit and karmik strike.
    basically, if I have all three feats, does it mean I get to make two attacks of opportunity against anyone attacking me?

    c) if two opponents have the same combo and fight each other, do they provoke an exponentially increasing amount of attacks of opportunity until they run out?
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    Q223: a) if I have defensive throw and robilar's gambit, and an opponent attacks me and misses, do I get to make two attacks of opportunity - one when they attack me for the gambit, and one when they miss for defensive throw?

    b) the same question with robilar's gambit and karmik strike.
    Yes to both. Note that RG AoOs are resolved after the opponent's attack, so you're making both of these attacks at the same point: I don't know if there are rules for what order the feats must be resolved in. If not, you could choose.

    c) if two opponents have the same combo and fight each other, do they provoke an exponentially increasing amount of attacks of opportunity until they run out?
    Yes, until they run out of AoOs, though either combatant can always opt not to make an AoO. Remember the -4 attack penalty for being prone. Also remember that immediate actions (or for the original attacker, a swift action) could be used to break up the fight.
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    since we're here, i have a second question about those feats

    Q224: I have defensive throw and improved trip.
    If the opponent that attacks me and triggers the trip attempt is already prone, what happens?
    Especially, can I still use that free trip opportunity to deal some damage? If not, is there some feat that lets me do so?
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    In other words, "can a prone target be tripped". FAQ says no, but FAQ is rarely treated as true RAW, so I'm not putting a bold A above this.
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    Q 225a

    Iaijutsu Focus (OA) damage is not precision damage AFAIK, so I can't refer to those general rules. Are the bonus d6s of damage considered the same type as the weapon used to deliver (i.e. bludgeoning, piercing or slashing)?

    Q 225b

    Same question, but for the Rapid Assault feat (ToB).

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    In other words, "can a prone target be tripped".
    well, not only that. also "is there a way to turn a free trip attempt into something else".

    Incidentally, assume that my opponents make some research and the next time I fight, first thing they do is dropping prone, denying me attacks. do the rules describe that situation? do they specify is falling prone is a swift or free action, if it does provoke an aoo?
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    do the rules describe that situation? do they specify is falling prone is a swift or free action, if it does provoke an aoo?
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    As per Actions in Combat section:

    Free actions rarely incur attacks of opportunity.
    Drop to the floor: AoO? No
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    Dropping to a prone position in your space is a free action.

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    Q223: a) if I have defensive throw and robilar's gambit, and an opponent attacks me and misses, do I get to make two attacks of opportunity - one when they attack me for the gambit, and one when they miss for defensive throw?
    b) the same question with robilar's gambit and karmik strike.
    basically, if I have all three feats, does it mean I get to make two attacks of opportunity against anyone attacking me?
    A 223 contention

    The rule for Attacks of Opportunity of the SRD specifies: "If you have the Combat Reflexes feat you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity."

    It doesn't matter if you have several feats permitting a AoO upon a foe's attack, the attack count only as one opportunity. You can choose between the various feats which one to apply, but nothing more.

    Once you have Robilar's Gambit, Defensive Throw and Karmic Strike are pretty much obsolete and can be retrained for other feats.
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    Re: A 223 contention

    AFB right now so I cannot furnish proof, but the opportunities are different. One is the attack the other is a failed attack IIRC.

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    A223 - Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit stack because they have different conditions for triggering an Attack of Opportunity.

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    The rule for Attacks of Opportunity of the SRD specifies: "If you have the Combat Reflexes feat you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity."

    It doesn't matter if you have several feats permitting a AoO upon a foe's attack, the attack count only as one opportunity. You can choose between the various feats which one to apply, but nothing more.

    Once you have Robilar's Gambit, Defensive Throw and Karmic Strike are pretty much obsolete and can be retrained for other feats.
    These effects represent different opportunities. Robilar's Gambit is when an enemy attacks you, Karmic Strike is when an enemy damages you, and Defensive Throw is when an enemy targeted by your Dodge feat misses you. If two of these effects were triggered by the same opportunity, such as the enemy damaging you, then arguably they would not both apply. As is, they do.
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    These effects represent different opportunities. Robilar's Gambit is when an enemy attacks you, Karmic Strike is when an enemy damages you, and Defensive Throw is when an enemy targeted by your Dodge feat misses you. If two of these effects were triggered by the same opportunity, such as the enemy damaging you, then arguably they would not both apply. As is, they do.
    A 223 Continuation

    I agree with St Fan. The Rules Compendium uses this language: "Each provoking act represents a different opportunity." Swinging a sword at someone and missing them aren't separate action, so I don't think they can count as separate "acts," which also means they shouldn't count as separate opportunities.

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    Q 226

    Would the feats Improved Energy Drain and Spell Drain work with a Half-Shadow Dragon's breath weapon?

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    A 223 Continuation

    I agree with St Fan. The Rules Compendium uses this language: "Each provoking act represents a different opportunity." Swinging a sword at someone and missing them aren't separate action, so I don't think they can count as separate "acts," which also means they shouldn't count as separate opportunities.
    Searching through RC, "act" is used overwhelmingly either as a synonym for "combat action" or to mean taking your turn. I find that convincing. Here's the full quote:

    "Some abilities allow you to make more than one attack of opportunity per round. Most such abilities, unless they say otherwise, don’t let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity. If the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, however, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity. Each provoking act represents a different opportunity."

    So under the no-stack reading, RG's "they provoke attacks of opportunity from you each time they swing" is an "unless they say otherwise" clause.

    I do have a reservation about reading "act" to mean "combat action" here: there's no good other word they could have used if they wanted it to not mean that -- effect or trigger don't work and "thing" doesn't fit their idiom.

    Despite that I think the usage precedent is a strong argument for RAW.

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    I think this particular question might be getting to the point of needing its own discussion thread...

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    Does a spell obtained by the ilithid savants aquire special ability use the caster level of the consumed brain for purposes of caster level checks to overcome spell resistance?

    "At 3rd level, an illithid savant permanently gains one class feature of a consumed brain's owner, as a character of that creature's level in that class.
    If the former character was a spellcaster, the illithid savant is able to cast one spell of each level available to the character (if the victim was a wizard, the mind flayer must still consult a spellbook or learn from scrolls), as well as any bonus spells provideded by the illithid savant's ability scores."
    Srd says for casting spells

    "In the event that a class feature, domain granted power, or other special ability provides an adjustment to your caster level, that adjustment applies not only to effects based on caster level (such as range, duration, and damage dealt) but also to your caster level check to overcome your target’s spell resistance and to the caster level used in dispel checks (both the dispel check and the DC of the check)."

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    Iaijutsu Focus (OA) damage is not precision damage AFAIK, so I can't refer to those general rules. Are the bonus d6s of damage considered the same type as the weapon used to deliver (i.e. bludgeoning, piercing or slashing)?
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    Yes due to a probably invalid syllogism):

    Iaijutsu Focus's entry provides it can be used to strike an inanimate object, assuming no distractions. "Your extra damage is halved, just like your ordinary damage." 3.0 and 3.5 stipulate that objects take half damage solely from ranged weapons. Ranged weapons do damage according to their weapon's type - slashing, piercing, or bludgeoning. Therefore, Iaijutsu Focus likewise accords to the type of damage the weapon it came from inflicts.

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    Let's pick an incarnum user with both levels in an incarnum class and a few incarnum feats. She fills up some of the feats with essentia points, which thus can't be reassigned for 24 hours.

    All incarnum feats have, among their prerequisites, a minimum Constitution of 13. Like with all feats, if you don't meet the prerequisites any more, you loose all benefits.

    My question is: what happens if the character takes ability damage reducing her Constitution to 12 or lower?

    A) For starter, all the benefits granted by the incarnum feats (including the eventual visual effects, I guess) are lost...

    B) Does this include the bonus essentia points (1 by feat) granted by each feat, thus reducing the total?

    C) If B) is true, even after said reduction is healed, if there remain some essentia invested in the feats, does this essentia returns to the floating reserve, since the feats aren't active any more?

    D) Even when the Constitution damage is healed, does each feat is now empty of any invested essentia?

    E) If D) is true, does the character need to wait for the 24 hours (since the moment the essentia was initially invested) to invest points into the feats again?
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