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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    I want to stay duel wielder theme
    My questions are
    1. class lvl progression correct?
    2. Invocation choices
    3. Good bad or average character.
    4. am I missing a component.

    Hex fighter duel wield
    Race 1/2 Elf Standard
    Strength 8 no heavy armor, int 10, Wisdom 12
    Constitution 13(14), Dexterity 15(16), Charisma 14 (16)

    Armor class 14(16) scale mail 2 scimitars
    Lvl 1 fighter two weapon fighting, second wind
    Lvl 2 hexblade 1 one weapon Charisma bonus
    Lvl 3 hexblade 2 Eldritch smite fiendish vigor
    Lvl 4 hexblade 3 pact of blade both weapons Charisma bonus
    Lvl 5 hexblade 4 duel weapon feat rapier and spear +1 ac (17)
    Lvl 6 fighter action surge
    Lvl 7 hexblade thirsting blade. 2 attacks pact weapon and bonus attack hexed weapon. 3 attacks total all at +3/+3
    Lvl 8 hexblade
    Lvl 9 hexblade
    Lvl 10 hexblade +2 Charisma 18.

    Lvl 2 fighter lvl 8 hexblade 4 invocations ac 17, 3 attacks +4/+4 action surge 3 more attacks per short rest. 2 spells up to lvl 4
    Lvl 2 fighter lvl 10 hexblade hex armor 50% of not getting hit. Add lifedrinker invocation +4 damage per hit
    3 attacks at +4/+8 with action surge 3 more attacks

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    Default Re: Help with character build

    Action surge doesn't give you another bonus action attack.

    What is a "hexed weapon?"

    What are you getting out of hexblade that you aren't getting out of pure fighter? I can't see what you're trying to grab with these warlock levels. A bit after level 10 fighter your Action Surge actually would be giving you three more attacks.
    Last edited by Xihirli; 2019-05-16 at 10:57 PM.
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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Default Re: Help with character build

    dual: twin
    duel: 1v1

    Hexblades want Dex14 with medium armor, leaving Con16 / Cha16.
    Last edited by bid; 2019-05-16 at 11:16 PM.
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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    Action surge doesn't give you another bonus action attack.

    What is a "hexed weapon?"

    What are you getting out of hexblade that you aren't getting out of pure fighter? I can't see what you're trying to grab with these warlock levels. A bit after level 10 fighter your Action Surge actually would be giving you three more attacks.
    Ahhh didnít foresee that bonus action issue.
    The pact blade is one weapon and the hex weapon from hexblade is another or same weapon. But a long as you have a pact blade the hex to use Charisma stats for attack and damage apply to both weapons

    Iím trying to go duel wield warlock. Only thing I need fighter for is twin weapon fight to get the bonus on second weapon and then duel wield feat to get the two weapons I want.
    And I get a few warlock spells to add in like Eldritch Blast for range attacks

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Help with character build

    I'd rather go Swords Bard with a small Warlock dip

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    ClericGuy

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    Or barb with fighter dip. There is not a lot to do as barb with ba except rage.

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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Iíll chrck sword bard thshjsc

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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whit View Post
    Iíll chrck sword bard thshjsc
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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    So bard looks promising but
    Should it be bard 10 hexblade 10
    They both get magic secret any 2 spells and hex Armor but lose 1 asi slot

    Othwise 8/12 either way loses magic secret any 2 spells or hex armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whit View Post
    So bard looks promising but
    Should it be bard 10 hexblade 10
    They both get magic secret any 2 spells and hex Armor but lose 1 asi slot

    Othwise 8/12 either way loses magic secret any 2 spells or hex armor.
    I have a hard time seeing myself ever taking more than about 5 Warlock levels. I'd probably take more Bard levels if not jump over into Swashbuckler Rogue after a while.

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    NinjaGuy

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    I may be wrong, but I donít think Eldritch Smite is available at Warlock 2. I think it has a requirement of Warlock 5, and if Iím mistaken there, Iím at least pretty sure you have to take Pact of the Blade first, so minimum Warlock 3
    "No mind to think.
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    No voice to cry suffering."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darc_Vader View Post
    I may be wrong, but I donít think Eldritch Smite is available at Warlock 2. I think it has a requirement of Warlock 5, and if Iím mistaken there, Iím at least pretty sure you have to take Pact of the Blade first, so minimum Warlock 3
    From my reading I didn't saw it have to be warlock level. Level 2 isn't enough anyway.

    Eldritch Smite
    Prerequisite: 5th level, Pact of the Blade feature

    Once per turn when you hit a creature with your pact weapon, you can expend a warlock spell slot to deal an extra 1d8 force damage to the target, plus another 1d8 per level of the spell slot, and you can knock the target prone if it is Huge or smaller.
    Last edited by BloodSnake'sCha; 2019-05-19 at 03:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodSnake'sCha View Post
    From my reading I didn't saw it have to be warlock level. Level 2 isn't enough anyway.
    Itís been clarified/errataíd that it does have to be Warlock level:
    Quote Originally Posted by Errata V2.0
    Eldritch Invocations (p. 110). The following sentence has been added to the end of the first paragraph: ďA level prerequisite refers to your level in this class.Ē
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darc_Vader View Post
    Itís been clarified/errataíd that it does have to be Warlock level:
    Good to know.

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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodSnake'sCha View Post
    Good to know.
    To add: anything in the Classes chapter uses the class level.
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    NinjaGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bid View Post
    To add: anything in the Classes chapter uses the class level.
    Which if Iím not mistaken means literally everything except Cantrips and Proficiency Bonus scale with class level and not character level.
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