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2019-07-13, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-07-13, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-13, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-07-13, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
that would actually be good for what vampires do?
Mosquitoes.
small, light, fast, drinks blood, is a normal creature to an outside observer, human might not realize your drinking their blood, reasons like that.
I mean its not as if vampires aren't already human mosquitoes, so it fits.
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2019-07-16, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Not an animal, but shortly after the Twilight movies came out, one of my players improvised a one-shot adventure where the vampire villain could turn into Elton John.
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2019-07-16, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
There are two main avenues imo, stealth and attack. As a vampire, do you want to be an overwhelmingly powerful monster? Then by all means become an ROUS. Just avoid nearby fire swamps. On the other hand, if you want to stalk and ambush your prey, you would be better off as a fairly innocuous creature that blends in well. A normal rat, cat, or bird. "Nobody here but us pigeons, please, continue to walk towards a spot with no witnesses." Ideally you would have two forms, one for reconnaissance, one for combat. If you couldnt mass up into a larger form of it, you probably would like a cheetah form. Incredibly fast sprinter, highly lethal capabilities. They also weigh about as much as a healthy young man of average height, topping off at around 150 lbs. So much less mass issues unless you are the mountain the rides. They also hunt game naturally that is only a little smaller than the average adult. So i would imagine a human intelligent cheetah would be able to handle taking down most people fairly well even without any passive boosts to speed or strength that being a vampire might impart. Considering they can already run down a car going highway speeds, you have to imagine a vampiric version would be about impossible to escape with anything less than a jet engine.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2019-07-16, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-07-16, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Considering they can already run down a car going highway speeds, you have to imagine a vampiric version would be about impossible to escape with anything less than a jet engine.
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2019-07-17, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Im not sure why you think the ability to do a quarter mile dash at 75 mph doesnt matter when it comes to catching and killing their target. I more meant the car thing to show just how absurdly fast they can run. Even their nonsprint speed would leave usain bolt mauled on the ground in seconds. And its not just straight line speed, these guys are VERY agile at high speeds meaning good luck dodging even if you get the chance to try. And all of this is unenhanced. If being a vampire in the form transfers any bonuses, that would be absurdly lethal.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2019-07-18, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-18, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-19, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Bah, there are more than one type of vampire. And besides, as I said, there are two main reasons for an animal form, stealth and reconnaissance, and combat. Being a standard pigeon would be ideal for sneaking around and waiting to ambush prey, but if the time ever comes for combat, being able to move at highway speeds, turn on a virtual dime, and have the natural tools to tear out throats all WITHOUT any vampiric enhancements added on top is a nice package deal. WITH vampiric bonuses anything less than an armored division is going to die screaming.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2019-07-19, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-19, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
My personal favorite vampires are from Robin McKinley's Sunshine. They can't change form, but are obscenely fast, and can move in ways not entirely contained in our reality. The older they get, the more sensitive they are to sunlight. Young vampires can endure twilight, older ones need to avoid the full moon, and several-century old ones even need to avoid reflected starlight. And wood from apple trees that host mistletoe make the best vampire-killing stakes.
Edit: Which I suppose really belongs in Media Discussions.Last edited by Lord Torath; 2019-07-19 at 12:25 PM.
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2019-07-19, 12:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Then what if he transforms into a more naturally power human?
If Cedric Diggory as vampire is already the most lethal animal form, wouldn't Dwayne Johnson as vampire be even more so?
So basically, they need to become a heartless, headless creature that lives in the water, like a sea sponge, or one of those corals that secrete their own sunscreen?Last edited by Xyril; 2019-07-19 at 12:39 PM.
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2019-07-19, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Nah, just change into an African hopping vampire. Or a chedipe. Or a penanggalan. Or any of about three dozen other variants.
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2019-08-02, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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In Vampire the Masquerade, the turn into animal trick is covered by two different powers.
Animalism - which at higher levels lets you possess animals.
Protean - which actually involves shapeshifting.
Under Protean, the character defaults to having a wolf and bat option. As the game became more popular and White Wolfneeded more stuff to pad their splatbooks,wanted to provide more options for the players, they added alternate forms from other non-western vampire mythos. The forms the vampire gets are supposed to be specific to the vampire's personality and/or their culture.As they were scrapping the bottom of the barrel, to simplify things they declared a vampire gets one fight form and one flight (run away) form, but they don't get to change it once chosen. This is explained in a novel where an elder malkavian vampire (who somehow has 4 levels of the gangrel-only clan power of protean) battles a pack of sabbat vampires in his flight form of a badger (supposed to burrow away). It does not go well for the elder.
I'm not sure, but I think that whole scene was meant to mock players who try to min-max their characters and make them special snowflakes.Hello world. . .
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2019-09-07, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2019-09-07, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-07, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Solved problem, vampires don't need them anyway.
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2019-09-09, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Since TierZoo has already been mentioned: Are Waterbears OP?
(Summary: no. Because they've min-maxed in favour of invulnerability to everything except the things that are actually likely to kill them).
Although maybe their radiation resistance would also grant protection from sunlight, and so actually would be useful for vampires...
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2019-09-12, 10:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
I’m not sure why creatures that can turn into a bat would follow conservation of “local” mass (I assume they tuck it into a pocket dimension or some similar gobbledygook, much like the Hellsing vampire’s private interior space).
But to play along, how does a vampire know how to copy something anyway? Presumably they get some of the biology wrong. I think this question addresses the heart of all of this. Depending on how guided the process is, they could potentially impersonate other human beings or create their own life forms. I imagine that as a being that doesn’t care about blood flow, they could conceal almost any weapon on their person and use it at will, or simply form a weapon at will with the body’s mineral resources. None of these are new ideas, but once you get into transmutation at will I think you move this direction quickly and inevitably, or your vampires just look stupid and unimaginative (which reflects on the writer).
If you can hand wave things with “magical limitations” of some sort, maybe an instinctive ability to copy the overall form of something they drink, then you have an intriguing proposition.
Edit: in short, my answer is that a non-traditional creature suited to the task at hand is the clear answer.Last edited by MisterMan; 2019-09-12 at 10:30 PM. Reason: No double post
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2019-09-13, 04:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Komodo Dragon.
Or should I say Komodo Dracula?
First off-they get grooves in their teeth that gather bacteria and let us infect our prey, allowing them to die slowly elsewhere for us to feed on later. As chronic biters of prey, this may be of use to us, I dunno.This apparently is a myth and the actual dying of infection is from their serrated teeth opening massive wounds and dirty water near their typical homes.
Still, I feel being a bitey creature synergises well with being a vampire. Means we can vamp out in animal form without needing to be human if necessary.
Alternatively, for a flying form, mosquito. We're basically indistinguishible from a mosquito except we have a few extra supernatural powers like hypnovision and superspeed and super resilience. (That said due to the hated nature of mosquitos, if there is one species that humanity might intentionally try to make extinct one day, it's the mosquito. In that scenario, our vampire probably doesn't want to be the only remmant of that species, it's like a vampire tyrannosaurus rex, it gets attention.)
And lastly for coolness, Vampire Tyrannosaurus Rex. Because holy hell and the ice lakes of tartarus, imagine this suave suited figure turning into a goth T-Rex, roaring, then trying to delicately bite your head off to get at your blood.Last edited by Malphegor; 2019-09-13 at 04:22 AM.
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2019-09-13, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bite the head off? Just eat the whole body and get every last carmine drop of blood.
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2019-09-21, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Something cute enough that people are going to invite it into their house. In this regard I agree with the OP that a feline form might be optimal. A tiny kitten perhaps.
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And in this form it can still make easy work of the average D&D peasant.Last edited by Bohandas; 2019-09-21 at 10:25 PM.
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2019-09-23, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What animal forms would actually be good for vampires?
Bat, mosquito and leech. Those animals suck blood in real life (although most bats are not vampiric, some are), whíle other animals do not. There probably is a reason for that.
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2019-09-24, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
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2019-09-24, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unless the bag is hermetically sealed you just mist out. Or turn into a full-sized vampire and explode out of the bag prior to releasing the blood from the veins in a rather more direct manner.
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2019-09-25, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly when I saw it I misread it as Kohlrabi
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2019-10-03, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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That made me remember a documentary where they turned the Tyrannosaurus into a giant vulture, it serves as a vampire dinosaur.
https://www.google.es/url?sa=i&rct=j...70212177485345Last edited by Xania; 2019-10-03 at 01:06 PM.