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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Default Paladin/Crusader Help

    I built a paladin4 crusader1 RKVX for a game that desperately needs a face, but I am unsure about some things about the rules.

    1. Holy Warrior substitution levels net you a feat every time you get a new spellcasting level, so a Paladin with RKV levels will get a feat when he can access level 2, 3 and 4 of the paladin caster list. Is this correct, or is that a stringent level 4, 8, 11, and 14 thing?

    2. As Paladin 4 Crusader 1, I can start with 2nd level maneuvers because my initiator level is 3, right?

    I will post the entire build later and thank you for criticism and suggestion.
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    Goblin

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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

    1. The way I read Holy Warrior, you get it at Pal 4, 8, etc., and you wouldn't get the bonus feats from prestige classes that grant spellcasting progression. Although, since Holy Warrior replaces spellcasting, your DM might houserule it if he's nice and you buy him pizza or something. As written, no.
    2. Yes. Remember the prerequisites for individual maneuvers though (although those don't really start until third-level manuevers).
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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

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    Paladin of Kelemvor 4/ Crusader1/ Ruby Knight Vindcator 10
    1 Paladin 1
    Features: Aura of Good, Detect Evil, Smite Evil
    Feat:

    2 Paladin 2
    Features: Divine Grace, Lay on Hands

    3 Paladin 3
    Features: Aura of Courage, Divine Health
    Feat:

    4 Paladin 4
    Features: Turn Undead


    5 Crusader 1
    Features: Furious Counterstrike, Steely Resolve
    Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 5/5/2: DS- Crusader's Strike SD- Mountain Hammer WR- Douse the Flame, Tactical Strike
    Stance:

    6 Ruby Knight Vindicator 1
    Feat
    Stances:

    7 Ruby Knight Vindicator 2
    Features: Divine Recovery
    Maneuvers Known/Readied/granted 6/5/2 SD- Overwhelming Mountain

    8 Ruby Knight Vindicator 3


    9 Ruby Knight Vindicator 4
    Feat:
    Maneuvers Known/Readied 7/5/2 DS - Daunting Strike

    10 Ruby Knight Vindicator 5
    Features: Armored Stealth
    Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 7/6/3
    Stance:

    11 Ruby Knight Vindicator 6
    Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 8/6/3 SD - Crushng Vise

    12 Ruby Knight Vindicator 7
    Features: Divine Impetus

    13 Ruby Knight Vindicator 8
    Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 9/6/3 SD - Colossus Strike

    14 Ruby Knight Vindicator 9
    Features: Divine Fury
    Maneuvers Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 9/7/4

    15 Ruby Knight Vindicator 10
    Maneuvers Maneuvers Known/Readied/Granted 10/7/4 WR - White Raven Hammer


    I don't have feats, nor stances yet nor levels past 15... help?
    Last edited by cupkeyk; 2007-11-08 at 03:54 PM.
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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

    I don't know about the bumping rules but this thread has been dead for a least a month, so i guess its okay to bump it now.
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

    You've crossed over from bumping into necromancy.

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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

    Quick answer:

    When in doubt with a Paladin RKV, Power Attack, Divine Might (CW), Battle Blessing (CC), Extra Turning, Extra Turning, Extra Turning, Extra Turning...

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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    Default Re: Paladin/Crusader Help

    Since RKV will not progress Holy Warrior, I am better of spell casting with battle blessing. Thanks. ^_^
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