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    That puts Theo at 16 and he is taking his first level of ordained champion, adjusted to include RKV progression for maneuvers and stances, as discussed before. I'll update the sheet in the near future!

    Theo is going to bring this book back to his temple, he has a compartment perfect for The Book of Exalted Deeds.
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    Thank you kind and generous DM i swear to not break the game with this gift you have given me. I will update my sheet tonight when my son is asleep.

    Do you allow level adjustment by off?
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    I allowed Timble to do level adjustment buy-off, so I can hardly turn around and refuse it to you!

    It feels like we're getting into the endgame now, so allowing something potentially game-breaking doesn't seem as bad at this stage...

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    This has been the longest running campaign I've ever been a part of, and "nearing the end game" is equally joyous and saddening.

    Now, it is play by post, so if course it can last another six months easy, so not the time for me to be wishy washy. Still, this has been an amazing adventure so far.
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    Next question. How does la buyoff work....

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    Next question. How does la buyoff work....
    You go to the store and pay it down, kinda like layaway.

    Nah, it's in the variant rules on the srd, bud.
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    So from what i understand i come back at level 15 at half my exp to level 16. If i take the la buyoff i lose an additional 16,000 exp and thus will be level 14 with no la? Just want to make sure im understanding it correctly.

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    1 is keep 2 is lose

    Domain). Cure Light Wounds (Empowered) (1d2)[1]
    Light of Lunia (1d2)[2]
    Shield of Faith (1d2)[2]
    Impede (1d2)[1]
    Comprehend Languages (1d2)[1]
    Domain). Cure Moderate Wounds (Empowered) (1d2)[2]
    Hold Person (1d2)[1]
    Augury (1d2)[1]
    Domain). Cure Serious Wounds (Empowered) (1d2)[1]
    Searing Light (1d2)[2]
    Righteous Hammer (1d2)[2]
    Light of Wisdom (1d2)[2]
    Domain). Cure Critical Wounds (Empowered) (1d2)[2]
    Assay Spell Resistance (1d2)[2]
    Healing Spirit (1d2)[1]
    Restoration (1d2)[1]
    Domain). Mass Cure Light Wounds (Empowered) (1d2)[1]
    Bewildering Mischance (1d2)[2]
    Domain). Heal (Empowered) (1d2)[1]
    Vigorous Circle (1d2)[2]
    Lucent Lance (1d2)[2]
    Bastion of Good (1d2)[1]

    May have missed a few things (DC changes) but besides that Rosalind should be up to date now with her LA buyoff and such making her a 14th level character now in a 16-17 level world
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    If she has the Saint template from the BoED, she'll be fine.
    "Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence"

    "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way."

    "When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves."

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    I agree as i should gain the levels back fast enough.

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    Yara levels up!

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    Another level in psion, base PP now 170.
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    7: Energy Conversion

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    How does Rosalind's magic circle of evil affect her interactions with the evil characters in the party?
    "Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence"

    "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way."

    "When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves."

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    That is a very good question that I don't believe I can answer, I would say it acts exactly as the spell (just it +4 instead of +2) but I'm honestly not sure if our DM may have other ideas for say Yara and the Aura. I forget that not everyone is good/neutral in the party. As no one is an outsider it in Theory wouldn't stop them from entering, though if it grants them the bonus I do not know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantiesilva View Post
    So from what i understand i come back at level 15 at half my exp to level 16. If i take the la buyoff i lose an additional 16,000 exp and thus will be level 14 with no la? Just want to make sure im understanding it correctly.
    Had to read up on this, but I think the answer is: not quite.

    The combined effect of raise dead and the Saint template put your character level at 15 with an ECL of 17.

    Your actual xp total would be at the midpoint between 15 and 16, ie. 112,500, but to achieve level 16 (ECL 18) would take an additional 17,000xp above the threshold for 15th level because of level adjustment - I.e. 122,000 instead of 120,000.

    Damn these rules are absurdly complicated.

    Okay, now buy off. Your character is high enough level to buy off a 2-point level adjustment, but the cost would be higher than you're thinking.

    To reduce the LA to +1 would take (ECL-1) x 1,000 = 16,000 xp. Your new ECL would be 16.

    To reduce the LA to 0 would take an additional 15,000 xp.

    The combined cost would be 31,000 xp, reduce your total xp to 80,000xp and so reduce both your character level and ECL to 13.

    While Saint is pretty badass, I don't know if it's worth being four levels behind everyone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by gallagher View Post
    This has been the longest running campaign I've ever been a part of, and "nearing the end game" is equally joyous and saddening.

    Now, it is play by post, so if course it can last another six months easy, so not the time for me to be wishy washy. Still, this has been an amazing adventure so far.
    Agreed. But if Avengers has taught us anything, it is that the endgame is exceptionally long and also not, in fact, necessarily the end.

    (I've still not watched that film so no spoilers please!)

    Quote Originally Posted by dantiesilva View Post
    That is a very good question that I don't believe I can answer, I would say it acts exactly as the spell (just it +4 instead of +2) but I'm honestly not sure if our DM may have other ideas for say Yara and the Aura. I forget that not everyone is good/neutral in the party. As no one is an outsider it in Theory wouldn't stop them from entering, though if it grants them the bonus I do not know.
    There's nothing in the spell description to say evil characters can't benefit from it. (Which means, incidentally, that any enemies in the area attacked by Yara get the bonus to their AC!)

    In Order of the Stick, Belkar found the spell painful but useable. There's nothing in the spell to say evil characters would find it painful (humour on the Giant's part, plus a little harmless flavour). So I'd regard it as a roleplaying choice for Timble whether Yara suffers any adverse effects from being in its area.

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    Hmm level 13....i will think on that as its a bit to swallow vs the 14. Though if i level up i could buy it off and just be back at 14 in theory.

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    Oh for... 39?! Seriously? I was going to say "this is secret hidden knowledge that the gods have kept from mortals, there is no way Rosalind happens to know it."

    But with that roll, I feel like I can't justify saying that.

    So, yes, Rosalind knows the secret lore revealed by Melchizar.

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    From what we saw last time (shrouds tower) his prison was able to br fit in a persons hand and carried. I believe its something like kenias cube from diablo 3. If im mistaken however im sure our dm will let us know.

    Also @DM by all means if you don't want Rosalind to know that its fine. After all her religion has legit hid the fact that their souls can't get to the afterlife so them hiding stuff and keeping things away from their priesthood/forgetting it over time is not impossible. Just thought with her "saintly" given stuff and becoming an outsider perhaps some of that unearthly knowledge may have flown into her. I will wait for you to answer the question about the Prison he is contained in, and if you really want Rosalind to know this before posting. As from what I have read and seen I see it more like a rather big rubix cube.
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    There's no real harm in her knowing. Everyone else does after all. It's just it raises the question why she never mentioned it before.

    Regarding the prison, it is a seven foot cube. You're remembering a scene in Rosalind's vision when Charis picked it up and threw it. But She was able to do that because (as shown earlier in the scene) size is meaningless to the gods.

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    Sorry that my Deva interferes with the scene, I've been on a spree of relaxing by canals in the cleanest city I've ever seen!

    It is currently 10 AM in my present local time, and I will do my best to post this evening
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    Well that begs the question how the hell do we move it then...hmm

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    Where is a shrink item spell and someone who can cast it when you need them lol I had a whole cool idea thinking it was a crystal like object almost in the shape of a cube and was going to make a necklace using her hair as well as actual cloth to make it.

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    Shrink item doesn't work on magic items, that was my first go to suggestion before I checked it and made Manny put forward this one.

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    Damn, i don't have a temple per say at the moment to secure him. I open to suggestions of where to send him. I would say Maya but they may just try to free him. Berun would kill him. Devil would use him. Garnig doesn't seem secure enough. Meta a priest of charis with miracle could set him free which could be good or bad. Relath and Gunn seem the safest options

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    I'm struggling with energy with my travels. End of day, I'm just beat!

    @DM, can you DMPC me in your next post, and have Theo offer to use his temple as a neutral party, and have Rosalind go to Lothrain and Natalia and to get assistance? I'll convince the Deva to come with, her task was to guard the jail cell until I relieve her, and this is like a continuation in a more secure location.
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    Done. Hope I channelled the spirit of Theo as you would want!

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    Perfectly good! As long as the Deva comes with. Her status is going to be the biggest protection from interference from allied parties.
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    Going to post when i get home from work. Rosalind will go speak with the angel as i posted earlier asking to speak with him.

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    Okay, I'd been ignoring that until you resolved the inter-PC debate.

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    Have Theo walk with you, the angel will recognize his authority.

    Since it is the end of the week, and I'm back home in Chicago on Sunday, how about I return to my normal posting on Monday? I've enjoyed my break and I don't think Theo has been particularly needed so far.
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    Because of feats if im not mistaken she is recognized by all good crreatures from the outerplanes as a friend. Im away from books at the moment so cant be 100% sure. And the saint template makes her a native outsider if it helps any.

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