OOTS #1173 - The Discussion Thread

[D.One]

On an unrelated detail, I remember it was questioned about the council not having drinks and snacks for during the debates and all. Well, if you read the last paragraph shown in section 1.3, it says: "Following the completion of duties, the Council shall ... (something something) ... snacks and other light refreshments, as well ... (something something) ... quantities of beer sufficient ... (something something) ... scones. big... (or scores, I don't know what a scone is)

[Doug Lampert]

You tell him Sigdi! That's how its done!

No one beats Durkon at following the rules.

[Kantaki]

I should say: I'm impressed so many of the councilmembers knew about section 1.3, paragraph 2. These guys might be more into this council business than I was giving them credit.

Grey Wolf

Or they memorized the rulebook to stave off boredom.
You know, trying to pass some time during their less... unusually interesting Council meetings.

It was either that or getting stoned, and after that time no one was left to call off the meeting they don't do that anymore.

[Ornithologist]

(or scores, I don't know what a scone is)

A scone is a type of pastry. I find them to be a bit dry myself.

[Forikroder]

(the following is paraphrased with the accent removed)

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0305.html

what accent?

[Giggling Ghast]

Doesn't Elan have mending? I bet they defeat the vampires and then simply mend the table so the council can resume.

Mending can only fix a break that is no more than one foot in dimension. I’m not sure how wide that table is, but it’s definitely more than one foot in diameter.

[D.One]

A scone is a type of pastry. I find them to be a bit dry myself.

Thanks. Learning something new.

[GregTD]

Snicker.

Win!

A scone is a type of pastry. I find them to be a bit dry myself.

That's so they taste delightful once you've covered them with clotted cream (and jam, if that floats your boat).

:-)

[gatemansgc]

the giant sees all our predictions, and takes the 30th option instead.

also lol, corpse of a tree.

and the orange barrier fills any holes in the ceiling it seems.

[Wraithfighter]

On one hand: Yay, the vote's indefinitely delayed!

On the other: ...uh, wait. Does that mean that all the clerics and bodyguards are stuck in the Godsmoot until someone can make these guys a new table?

...hope they're comfy...

[Reboot]

Thing is, what does this solve? Are we assuming that the vampires have a literal one-vote (e.g., 8-7) majority and the reversal of that vote after the vamps are dust will save the planet (rather than, say 9-7 which would lead to a further tie)?

Mending can only fix a break that is no more than one foot in dimension. I’m not sure how wide that table is, but it’s definitely more than one foot in diameter.

Yeah, but Make whole is a second-level cleric spell. Even the assistant overnight caretaker acolytes could probably cast it.

[GregTD]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0305.html

what accent?

That seems like a bit of a continuity error, given the whole "I do 4 Sendings with her every week"

[magwaaf]

i'll probably get in trouble for this...

Burlew... that was ****ing gold! i have not laughed that good at a comic in awhile, thank you.

[Kalirren]

Okay that was better than I had anticipated!

Parliamentary rule ex machina!

[Deophaun]

A) Why didn't Durkon just break the table directly? Hanging around Elan too much?
B) Make whole.

[Snails]

A scone is a type of pastry. I find them to be a bit dry myself.

They are a lot less dry if one does not over-mix and uses cold butter, the small globs of cold butter holding in the moisture during the quick baking process.

A lot of scones are tragically dry, and they further dry out as they go stale.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

A) Why didn't Durkon just break the table directly?

Plausibly, misdirection. Made the vampire think Durkon's plan was to kill the vampire with daylight, so they didn't do anything to stop the hammer. An attack directly on the table might have been blocked.

Grey Wolf

[gatemansgc]

If the protections are still on, he can't really attack her (or maybe he will, and get stoned). If they are off, Durkon is back. Anyway, it's risky for her (except that it's Sidgi we're talking about. He's the one in real danger )



But if we look at panel 10, the blue barrier is there, and in panel 18 (after the suspension), it seems to have vanished...

even with the blue barrier not there, durkon is still stone in front of it so it could be a minor oversight. we'll see next comic.

[Lexible]

"UNZOT."

Tee hee.

[Peelee]

That seems like a bit of a continuity error, given the whole "I do 4 Sendings with her every week"

If a Sending is like a phone call, then I can see a formal letter for the high priest. One does not simply dial up the Space Pope, after all.

[Resileaf]

C'mon guys, it's not an obscure rule, it's literally the third rule in the book.

[gatemansgc]

"UNZOT."

Tee hee.

i can't decide whether "unzot" or "corpse of a tree" is funnier.

[Kantaki]

A) Why didn't Durkon just break the table directly? Hanging around Elan too much?
B) Make whole.

Plausibly, misdirection. Made the vampire think Durkon's plan was to kill the vampire with daylight, so they didn't do anything to stop the hammer. An attack directly on the table might have been blocked.

Grey Wolf

Also, Durkon knows how to hit rock just right to break perfectly.
Wood is a entirely different matter.
Especially if all you have is a hammer.

[CriticalFailure]

Ah, make whole makes more sense then.

[Peelee]

C'mon guys, it's not an obscure rule, it's literally the third rule in the book.

Depends on how many subsections Sections 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 have.

[Kelenius]

• Durkon remains stoned until the meeting is concluded, which will be a very long time
• The vampire is going to attack and kill Sigdi
• Sigdi will not be raised

are my predictions.

[Gusion]

New comic is up.

Makes me wonder if he ever discussed knowledge architecture with Roy.

Also, can't wait to see what they do with the vampires now.

[Snails]

Hmmm... Make Whole...

Target: One object of up to 10 cu. ft./ level

That table could easily be too big for any dwarf cleric available, except Durkon and Hilgya.

[D.One]

A) Why didn't Durkon just break the table directly? Hanging around Elan too much?
B) Make whole.

Plausibly, misdirection. Made the vampire think Durkon's plan was to kill the vampire with daylight, so they didn't do anything to stop the hammer. An attack directly on the table might have been blocked.

Grey Wolf

Also, Durkon knows how to hit rock just right to break perfectly.
Wood is a entirely different matter.
Especially if all you have is a hammer.

Also also, time. To get to the table and strike, Durkon might need to spend another round, in which the final vote might have been cast.

[Reboot]

Ah, make whole makes more sense then.

OTOH, the rule explicitly states "unbroken". Something which has been broken, even if subsequently fixed, could possibly still not count as "unbroken" if you define it as "never broken" rather than "not currently broken" ;)

Durkon remains stoned until the meeting is concluded, which will be a very long time
[...]
are my predictions.

Unlikely. That sub-boss Xyklon guy probably needs to be dealt with more quickly than that.