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2019-08-19, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Races and templates with LA +0 LA - and no LA noted
What is the difference between those 3?
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2019-08-19, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Races and templates with LA +0 LA - and no LA noted
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2019-08-19, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Races and templates with LA +0 LA - and no LA noted
LA not listed tends to be a 3.0 thing.
RAW is debated on whether this is the same as LA +0 or not.
A lot of 3.0 creatures and templates that had no LA listed were allocated an LA when they got reprinted or errata'd to 3.5.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2019-08-20, 06:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 08:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Races and templates with LA +0 LA - and no LA noted
By strict RAW, 'no LA noted' means 'not playable' when you're talking about a creature (because, well, there isn't a LA) but means '+0 LA' when you're talking about a template (because any value not referred to by the template remains unchanged).
In practice, this leads to silliness such as +0 LA Chosen of Bane, so any DM word their salt should either rule that it counts as 'LA: —' or as a more balanced value.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2019-08-20, 04:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Races and templates with LA +0 LA - and no LA noted
Indeed. IMHO, it's always a DM call, and common sense should prevail.
I found a 3.5 example yesterday, by accident: Madborn (Five Nations p.123) - listed as CR +1, but no LA listed (well, I guess you can extrapolate LA — from the sample stat block, but still doesn't get a mention in the main body text of applying the template).
Make me wonder if you could stack Madborn and Tainted Raver on the same creature, for perpetual double-rage...My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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