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    The Agave are a small race, both in size and numbers, of plant folk who were born from the blood of a talented mage. In an epic confrontation, the mage confronted their arch-nemesis, a lich bestride a fearsome dragon, and did battle. The mage prevailed, but at grievous cost. They felt the last of their lifeblood draining from their body, and died in a small patch of flowers, preserved by their wards in the hellscape that the battlefield had become.

    A year passed, and the mage's power and blood had seeped into the plants they died on. The plants became aware, and began to explore out. They were, luckily, found by a druid, named Leno, who took the young plants in. Leno had been attempting to regrow the wasteland left behind by the confrontation.

    Leno raised the plants as if they were his children, teaching them the ways of his magic. The agave took to it, and helped the young elven druid restore the land. Eventually, though, many of the Agave left, seeking their own place in the world. (Though Leno, of course, retained some of the family.) This supposedly happened some 600 years ago, meaning Leno may no longer be alive. The Agave, though, have spread far. Though not particularly numerous, they are found in virtually every big city.

    The Agave have a powerfully inquisitive nature, a driving curiosity that leads them to learn all they can. They also have a knack for magic, both arcane and druidic, and a talent for artifice.

    In personality, the Agave (being people, after all) vary a lot, but in general, they tend to be kind, if a bit oblivious or awkward.

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    Ability Score Increase
    Your Constitution increases by 1, as befitting your hardy, planty nature, and your Intelligence increases by 1 as well.

    Age
    Agave have no known upper lifespan-they tend to get involved in accidents that render them dead before age can get them. However, the older an Agave is, the more and more sedentary they become, till they eventually become more plant than animate being. It is possible to restore a "planted" Agave with rejuvenative magic, though the longer the Agave has been immobile, the less the magic affects them.

    Alignment
    Due to their origins, Agave tend strongly towards Good.

    Size
    You are a walking, talking plant. Your size is small, and you rarely stand more than 4'.

    Speed
    Your walking speed is 25'.

    Plant Nature
    You have resistance to poison damage and advantage on saves against poison. In addition, so long as you receive water and sunlight, you do not require food to avoid Exhaustion. Finally, you may cast the Druidcraft cantrip.

    Inventive Inclinations
    You have proficiency in any one artisan tool.

    Languages
    You speak Common and one other language-typically a language you were around growing up.

    Underdwellers

    Ability Score Improvement
    Your Wisdom increases by 1.

    Darkvision
    You can see up to 60' in complete darkness, though only in shades of black and white.

    Deep Roots
    Unlike other Agave, you have little need for sunlight. Your deep roots can seek out sustenance from even the most barren of places, meaning you require only water. In addition, you may, as an action, root yourself in place. You gain advantage on any saves against forced movement, but cannot voluntarily move yourself until you take a bonus action to retract your roots.

    Vibrant Agave

    Ability Score Improvement
    Your Charisma increases by 1.

    Fast
    Your base walking speed is 30'.

    Shiny
    You know the Light cantrip, using Charisma as your spellcasting modifier (if it ever matters).
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    Using detect balance
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...03Sc/htmlview#

    Base (20)
    Standard stats 12
    25 Speed -2
    Poison res and adv 5
    Doesn't need to eat 1
    Cantrip 2
    Tool prof 1
    Choice of language 1

    Underdwellers (4)
    Standard darkvision 3
    roots, advantage on rare roll 1

    Vibrant (4)
    Normal walk speed +2 (to balance vs the lack of it earlier)
    Cantrip 2

    22 Is a good total. Seems balanced.

    Thematically I don't care for some of the choices.. a lot of things we've seen before in other races. The roots are the only thing unique to only this race..
    I'd like thorns or something.
    Also poison res doesn't make a lot of sense to me... how do you kill plants but with pesticide, a poison.

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    Also I recommend changing your title to define what agave is. People might be more excited to know it's a plant race, then not knowing what agave means and giving it a pass.
    Like Agave: a 5e plant race
    Or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerzerkerUnit View Post
    I don't need another plant race, I'd like critique on mine. I'm fully aware that I'm not the first person to make a plant race.
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    And criticism you shall receive! I'm typing this as a read.

    I love the backstory! I'd love to be the lost agave, descendant of a group of agaves that traveled far. Now it's my time to go back to my ROOTS and meet Leno!

    The 'artifice' part sticks out like a sore thumb, definitely a THORN IN MY SIDE.

    I actually don't know how these guys look. Green Humanoids or Bipedal Plants?

    I love the fact that they photosynthesize!

    The base race is lovely, and the formatting deserves praise as well. But I feel like the subraces could use a bit more work. The race is already so unique, it's hard to think of variations. I mean, Artisan Tools? Underdwellers? Darkvision? All this feels thematically off based on what you've described so far. But sure, it's your race. Maybe some backstory would help here, since It's really hard to go from born-by-magic to raised-by-druid to... living in the underdark?

    I feel like the general theme would be better served with different subraces. Maybe make a difference between the outgoing and far-travelled Agaves and the stay-at-home easy going 'traditional' agaves. Sorta like what they did with halflings?

    Whatever you do, don't go "ah, this is a rose, and this has bark and this has thorns". Differentiate between them rather by personality than which type of plant they descend from. Having them based off different plants is just... boring, and plenty of other plant races have gone that route before. You could have one subrace that is mobile and active, and one that is stout and calm. That works well to help fulfill any fantasy a player might have looking for a plant race to play, I think. It's also cool that the ones that left Leno evolved differently than ones that stayed in their region of origin.

    The nomadic line would have to fight off new diseases on their travels, survive through barren lands, and have good tools to survive against hostile creatures on their travels. And of course movement speed. They could probably be able to consume less water and sunlight to still gain benefit from their photosynthesis.

    The traditional line would get the chance of growing taller and stronger due to their relatively safe environment, but be more magical due to their heritage with druidism. They could probably consume more sun and water to get stronger benefits.

    So, yeah. Either some flavor text to help with the existing subraces, or a small overhaul to give them more oomph, those are my two copper.
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    These guys are mechanically so similar to dwarves that I don't see a problem in most respects.

    However, from a more generic perspective, opening up the game to plants, constructs, or undead can create a lot of hurdles. They don't need to eat normal food? Fantastic. What if they want to? I'm willing to bet pouring a potion of healing on tree bark's not doing anything. Plus a fair number of spells that work on "people" will bounce off, giving them unexpected defenses...but sometimes unexpected penalties.

    Be prepared to make a list of special rules, or be prepared to handwave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNAProductions View Post
    I don't need another plant race, I'd like critique on mine. I'm fully aware that I'm not the first person to make a plant race.
    Sure, but when I don't have time to critique, I offer other resources so you have a basis for comparison. There are presently 0 official plant races. There are, to my knowledge, only a handful of homebrew plant races, most of those buried on various forums.

    Given that these cleave so closely to other existing races, I thought you might glean inspiration or confirmation from something that does not.

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    I think the concept is pretty interesting. The implementation makes them look a lot like dwarves, especially the Underdwellers.

    My only real criticism is the name, since agave is the genus of plant from which tequila is made. Names of new kinds of creature in a fantasy adventure game like D&D are always hard to come up with, of course, but associating it with the drink everyone threw up to in university/college might be kind of weird?

    (I must admit, I am exaggerating quite a lot in that last paragraph, although the name is a little off-putting.)
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    I now want a booze-themed subrace.

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