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    PaladinGuy

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    Default Re: Blank Slate Earth D&D setting: Non-historical

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWyrmGold View Post
    That (and your comments later in your first post) make it sound like the setting started out with big blocks of race in the initial diaspora. Is that about right?


    How? The two are inherently intertwined. Gods who deserve the name will need to interact with religion somehow, and religions will need to explain gods somehow. The gods which exist may not get along with the common religions, but the two can't be separated without one turning into something unworthy of the label.


    Which is part of why I like the "gods are what people believe them to be" angle. It turns gods from being independent actors into being an incarnation of social pressure. They aren't telling their culture what to be, but enforcing what they already think they should be.


    On the other hand, five thousand years wouldn't have been that much history until the past few millennia. Oh, there were changes in dynasty and in what cultures were dominant, but at the end of the day there was still going to be an absolute monarch blessed by the gods ruling over any given chunk of land. So it was from the dawn of city-states until...arguably the Roman Republic, if we focus on Western history?
    Granted, the setting is supposed to end up at Renaissance tech levels, but the basic societal pattern hadn't changed that much yet. It was weakening, with mere lords taking power from kings and emperors, but it was there. The same monsters might not be ruling for five thousand years, but it seems more than plausible that some monster or another would. (Especially given their magical abilities and giant-monster-ness.)


    Well, I started with a vague idea of how many humans were already there, then multiplied a vague idea of how many fantasy refugees there were by a vague idea of how many survived long enough to establish themselves, then compared the two figures and came up with "Humans would probably outnumber the fantasy races".


    Alright, I like the idea. Can't help but wonder what effects roughly doubling the amount of biomass on the planet would have...could easily be a mass extinction event, especially if its uprooted plants, beached fish, etc smothered enough little plants over a short enough initial migration.
    It could be simply that the gods show up, and then people make religions out of them instead of making up their own imaginary deities. If gods show up and do stuff, then the native people's of blank slate Earth don't have to make up their own imaginary deities, they will start praying to the ones that n actual answer their prayers, perform miracles and grant spells to their clerics.

    I think a world such as this will have fewer pantheons, and natives of the New World will end up worshipping the same set of God's as the people in Europe, Asia, and Africa. So we need to set up a global pantheon of God's that meets all these different cultural needs, these gods will include animal totems, gods modeled after the Greeks and roman pantheon, more primitive viking like gods and so forth.

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    PaladinGuy

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    Default Re: Blank Slate Earth D&D setting: Non-historical

    Let's alternately suppose the gates to this world from our world could be operated by anyone.

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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Blank Slate Earth D&D setting: Non-historical

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich View Post
    As to elves, the whole 'elves live in forests' trope has always been problematic because elves have to eat, and they have cities, so they need to have agriculture, but it's never been well established how the elves grow their crops in forests (Tolkien was absolutely unconcerned with that particular issue). Intensive forest-based cropping systems are possible, but they still require a fairly dramatic transformation of the forest from its natural state.
    Read up on agro-forestry and multi-cropping. In our world this concerns mainly the tropical areas but that is
    more because the suite of crops and animals that spread over Eurasia was domesticated in the fertile crescent and was not adapted to forested environments. It is entirely possible to develop agro-forestry multi-cropping systems in temperate zones.

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