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    My theory on Redcloak's niece:
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    Right-eye sent her to the circus they used to visit. They were sufficiently tolerant to allow goblins around regularly, and it's a place where she wouldn't draw too much attention. It also fits the statement about her being raised by humans "or worse".

    As for how she enters the story, my guess is she's now an assistant to a group of monster hunters, who will head to Kraagor's tomb looking for exotic creatures. There's one in particular which will be important: she'll recognize the Monster in the Darkness.
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    Right-eye sent her to the circus they used to visit. They were sufficiently tolerant to allow goblins around regularly, and it's a place where she wouldn't draw too much attention. It also fits the statement about her being raised by humans "or worse".

    As for how she enters the story, my guess is she's now an assistant to a group of monster hunters, who will head to Kraagor's tomb looking for exotic creatures. There's one in particular which will be important: she'll recognize the Monster in the Darkness.
    That actually... makes a surprising amount of sense.

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    As for how she enters the story, my guess is she's now an assistant to a group of monster hunters, who will head to Kraagor's tomb looking for exotic creatures. There's one in particular which will be important: she'll recognize the Monster in the Darkness.
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    I think it might be easier for her to just be tracking Redcloak (or maybe tracking down the Order because she found out about them going after Redcloak). It's not like she wouldn't have a reason.

    I'd also guess on her wanting to kill Redcloak for what he's done to their family.

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    I'm slowly starting to come around to the idea that Recloak's niece may indeed come into the online comic by these arguments. Which is the worst thing that could happen to y'alls case, really, considering my track record on guessing what's going to happen in the comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I'm slowly starting to come around to the idea that Recloak's niece may indeed come into the online comic by these arguments. Which is the worst thing that could happen to y'alls case, really, considering my track record on guessing what's going to happen in the comic.
    I've been convinced too, and I have never guessed anything correctly in any piece of media, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I'm slowly starting to come around to the idea that Recloak's niece may indeed come into the online comic by these arguments. Which is the worst thing that could happen to y'alls case, really, considering my track record on guessing what's going to happen in the comic.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Before Hilgya showed up, whenever people theorized she might come back I was like "pfff, very unlikely, that would be pointless and self-indulgent", but then it happened and I was like "THIS IS PERFECT", so at this point I feel I should just embrace this theory with Redcloak's niece.

    (Also, hopefully that would result in a few flashback panels with Right-Eye, and more Right-Eye would be awesome)
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    I've been convinced too, and I have never guessed anything correctly in any piece of media, ever.
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    I'm slowly starting to come around to the idea that Recloak's niece may indeed come into the online comic by these arguments. Which is the worst thing that could happen to y'alls case, really, considering my track record on guessing what's going to happen in the comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    But she can have non-undead worshipers.
    Right? I mean, who else are angsty goth-emo adventurers going to worship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexible View Post
    Right? I mean, who else are angsty goth-emo adventurers going to worship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexible View Post
    Right? I mean, who else are angsty goth-emo adventurers going to worship?
    Ioun? That seems right up her alley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard_Lizard View Post
    Lolth. Gruumsh. Literally any other death god.
    Seems like there's only one Death god per pantheon, though - Lolth and Gruumsh don't exist in this world. And while it would be just like a teenage rebel to want to worship somebody from a foreign pantheon, I'm not positive that an average teenage peasant would learn about them in the first place.

    I guess I could totally see the rebel Northern kids who do know about Nergal worshipping him, though, so you make a good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    Seems like there's only one Death god per pantheon, though - Lolth and Gruumsh don't exist in this world.
    Can we be sure of that? If nothing else, we know Drow exist in this world (Zz'dtri) and they're usually depicted as worshipping Lolth, so I would think she exists in the Stickverse, even if it's as a demon rather than a full-blown goddess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    Can we be sure of that? If nothing else, we know Drow exist in this world (Zz'dtri) and they're usually depicted as worshipping Lolth, so I would think she exists in the Stickverse, even if it's as a demon rather than a full-blown goddess.
    I guess it's possible that she exists as a non-deity, sure (or as an ascended elven deity, come to think of it). We seem to have confirmation that only Babylonian, Chinese and Norse gods canonically exist, excluding the ascended deities from this world, which is what I was going off of, but we certainly don't have evidence that Lolth doesn't exist as, say, a demon lord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    I guess it's possible that she exists as a non-deity, sure (or as an ascended elven deity, come to think of it). We seem to have confirmation that only Babylonian, Chinese and Norse gods canonically exist, excluding the ascended deities from this world, which is what I was going off of, but we certainly don't have evidence that Lolth doesn't exist as, say, a demon lord.
    I would guess that Lolth is from the Elven pantheon. Still Red quiddity, but it's fairly likely.
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    So as of today, the answer is officially "no," then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    So as of today, the answer is officially "no," then.
    But it might not be!

    ...if we have already started Book 7, in the middle of the resolution of book 6.
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    If this were a new book, Janna would have said something like "break between books" rather than "chapter break".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSh View Post
    If this were a new book, Janna would have said something like "break between books" rather than "chapter break".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
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    Right-eye sent her to the circus they used to visit. They were sufficiently tolerant to allow goblins around regularly, and it's a place where she wouldn't draw too much attention. It also fits the statement about her being raised by humans "or worse".

    As for how she enters the story, my guess is she's now an assistant to a group of monster hunters, who will head to Kraagor's tomb looking for exotic creatures. There's one in particular which will be important: she'll recognize the Monster in the Darkness.
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    that she was sent to the circus, neat to see this theory has other adherents. It would make a lot of sense. Also think the idea that she’s either trying to track down Redcloak and/or Xykon because she knows or her family because she doesn’t know makes sense, those are the main two ways I can see her actually being in the story.


    As for Hilgya, I think reading through from beginning to get reappearance as a new reader it’s much more implied she’ll come back with a kid because you don’t have years to forget about her.
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    Okay um, I definitely remember someone in this thread saying something about Right-Eye returning if his daughter does to show SoD stuff, and I can't find it but if anyone actually said that I'm responding to it.
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    I hope Redcloaka's niece is a paladin as others said above), trying to hunt down and kill Redcloak and Xykon. But I think it would be cool if his ghost if following her trying to say "no, don't do this, you need to give up on revenge" while she is all "no, I'll never", but then eventually she meets Roy, and Eugene's ghost is hanging around bored when he sees Right-Eye's ghost and we get a conversation between them, also a good way to get the online people (who unlike me don't read the forums and haven't had SoD spoiled for them) to discover what happened through exposition, and then you know, other plot stuff happens, Belkar dies mid-book.

    And then she replaces Belkar in the Order for the rest of the comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Torath View Post
    You, uh, got the wrong slash on your "end spoiler" tag. You want the forward slash "/", not the back slash. Your spoiler is just kind hanging out there, for all to see.
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    Not necessarily: Some don't have chapters and/or pleasantness.
    See, this is how people get wine glasses thrown in their faces. Like good old papa Richter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Torath View Post
    You, uh, got the wrong slash on your "end spoiler" tag. You want the forward slash "/", not the back slash. Your spoiler is just kind hanging out there, for all to see.
    Sorry, I always forget it's the other one for that.

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