OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread

[Schroeswald]

There is a very good possibility that Elan is the highest level cleric in the world. Even if he isn't, he is definitely in the running.

I highly doubt Elan is a higher level cleric than Redcloak.

[Peelee]

There is a very good possibility that Elan is the highest level cleric in the world.

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I'll take that bet!

[tyckspoon]

Lawful Roy would likely suffer no ill effects if he grabbed Elan's Chaos Saber, etc. etc.

The alignment properties (Holy/Axiomatic/Anarchic/Unholy) actually are an exception here - somebody of the opposite alignment holding them suffers a negative level until they drop them. If the Chaos Sabre has Anarchic among its properties Roy would suffer for it.

[littlebum2002]

I highly doubt Elan is a higher level cleric than Redcloak.

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I'll take that bet!

You guys have forgotten Banjo so easily. He is much more powerful than the Dark One.

[hamishspence]

The alignment properties (Holy/Axiomatic/Anarchic/Unholy) actually are an exception here - somebody of the opposite alignment holding them suffers a negative level until they drop them. If the Chaos Sabre has Anarchic among its properties Roy would suffer for it.

The same would also be true of an Intelligent Weapon whose alignment is opposed to the wielder's.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Thanks, Fyraltari! But it still doesn’t seem to work. It displays link-text formatting, but it links to a “server not available page” regardless of whether I include the http:// or not. Do you know what’s up with that?

You have the wrong text in the URL field. You just need this: www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0890.html

[Schroeswald]

You guys have forgotten Banjo so easily. He is much more powerful than the Dark One.

But Redcloak is still higher level than Elan

[AutomatedTeller]

Is the phrase "certified bardic genius" a joke or not? I mean, Elan is pretty well versed in story-telling... but he's Elan...

Also - gotta love the quick-change rocker clothes for the song. Is there a specific band he's parodying?

[Peelee]

The alignment properties (Holy/Axiomatic/Anarchic/Unholy) actually are an exception here - somebody of the opposite alignment holding them suffers a negative level until they drop them. If the Chaos Sabre has Anarchic among its properties Roy would suffer for it.

I actually did consider that but took a gamble that it probably wouldn't have that property. I tend to shoot from the hip. It works great until it doesn't.

You guys have forgotten Banjo so easily. He is much more powerful than the Dark One.

Haven't forgotten at all, but is his cleric high-leveled?

[Schroeswald]

Is the phrase "certified bardic genius" a joke or not? I mean, Elan is pretty well versed in story-telling... but he's Elan...

Also - gotta love the quick-change rocker clothes for the song. Is there a specific band he's parodying?

Squeaky was completely serious (the most he ever knew of Elan was maybe that Durkon was travelling with a bard that was level with him), Rich was writing a joke though.

[Squire Doodad]

Squeaky was completely serious (the most he ever knew of Elan was maybe that Durkon was travelling with a bard that was level with him), Rich was writing a joke though.

Elan is #12 out of the 10 most powerful Bards on this planet right now.
Of course, there's probably only 1 Bard for every 850 Clerics on a good day, but that's besides the point.

The alignment properties (Holy/Axiomatic/Anarchic/Unholy) actually are an exception here - somebody of the opposite alignment holding them suffers a negative level until they drop them. If the Chaos Sabre has Anarchic among its properties Roy would suffer for it.

Chaos might just be its name though, and have nothing to do with its interactions with various alignments.

[Resileaf]

Chaos might just be its name though, and have nothing to do with its interactions with various alignments.

Roy very clearly demonstrates feeling a lot of pain from that saber's strike. I can only assume that it's due to the alignment bonus.

[Squire Doodad]

Roy very clearly demonstrates feeling a lot of pain from that saber's strike. I can only assume that it's due to the alignment bonus.

That could be it, though Roy doesn't seem overly hurt and so I took it as "Elan, please stop attacking me, you're actually competent now".

[Peelee]

Roy very clearly demonstrates feeling a lot of pain from that saber's strike. I can only assume that it's due to the alignment bonus.

True, it looks like it does have the Anarchic property.

Which, to the original point, means so long as Durkon doesn't have the Grounded alignment, he should be perfectly fine with a weapon imbued with the Lightning alignment.

[Fyraltari]

Holding an item that can deliver an effect to others hit with it aren't necessarily affected by that effect themselves. In fact, that's almost antithetical to most magic items; if Elan had grabbed the Rod of Enervation from Nale, I doubt he'd be level drained from just holding it, Haley doesn't fly or constantly heal from holding her wands, Lawful Roy would likely suffer no ill effects if he grabbed Elan's Chaos Saber, etc. etc.

I'm not saying that they couldn't have carried it with them (in fact, I am pretty sure they did) but I am saying that I wouldn't touch that thing until I was certain it was safe.

[Squire Doodad]

True, it looks like it does have the Anarchic property.

Which, to the original point, means so long as Durkon doesn't have the Grounded alignment, he should be perfectly fine with a weapon imbued with the Lightning alignment.

If I remember correctly, Durkon should be fine with a Thunderbolt item as long as he isn't of the Water or Flying alignment. If he is of the Ground alignment, no matter what happens he won't take any damage from it at all!

[Peelee]

I'm not saying that they couldn't have carried it with them (in fact, I am pretty sure they did) but I am saying that I wouldn't touch that thing until I was certain it was safe.

Pshaw, there are at least three mid-to-high level Bards and a high-level Cleric (who'll get better soon!), plus elemental weapons that harm the wielder are rare to say the least. I wouldn't be afraid unless I'd made my character overcautious as a character attribute.

If I remember correctly, Durkon should be fine with a Thunderbolt item as long as he isn't of the Water or Flying alignment. If he is of the Ground alignment, no matter what happens he won't take any damage from it at all!

Nah, you're thinking of Pokemans. Alignment system works on pure opposites.

[valuedmember]

Love the rock (heh) bards.

[Crœsos]

Is the phrase "certified bardic genius" a joke or not? I mean, Elan is pretty well versed in story-telling... but he's Elan...

It's a punchline so it counts as a joke. However I think that Thirden is serious in his assessment. Elan is more devoted to the demands of narrative than anyone, except maybe Tarquin.

[Squire Doodad]

It's a punchline so it counts as a joke. However I think that Thirden is serious in his assessment. Elan is more devoted to the demands of narrative than anyone, except maybe Tarquin.

Hey, like father like son, eh?

[Sutehp]

Ok, someone just called Elan a "certified bard genius." To be fair, it's not without (some) justification, but still...

...I'll never be able to unsee that.

[Crœsos]

Another nice touch is Janna using the "spotlight" from the hole in the ceiling during her Song of Freedom. She's obviously learned her stagecraft well.

[Ruck]

How long have you been reading the comic?

Long enough to watch people ask the same questions about how the rest of the Order knows something when "the member of the Order who does know told them off-panel" is the really obvious answer.

[Helluin]

So... um, Durkon’s uncle AND his apprentice are level 12+ bards? That’s more than impressive

[Ruck]

So... um, Durkon’s uncle AND his apprentice are level 12+ bards? That’s more than impressive

Clearly Squeaky has gotten much better since Durkon was ordained.

[Crœsos]

So... um, Durkon’s uncle AND his apprentice are level 12+ bards? That’s more than impressive

Thirden has been a bard since before Durkon was born (or at least decided to complete his bardic training around the time Durkon was born) so that part isn't so surprising.

[Anansiil]

I'm not going to lie... destoning him in the next area was ingenious and save a ton of time, haha

[KorvinStarmast]

Clearly Squeaky has gotten much better since Durkon was ordained.

Twenty years is enought time to get a few levels.

[Squire Doodad]

Twenty years is enought time to get a few levels.

20 years for a few levels? Durkon is in his late 50s. The Order of the Scribble took like, a decade to get to low Epic as full time adventurers on a HUGE world-spanning quest, right? I wouldn't be surprised if Squeaky went from level 2 when Durkon was born to level 14 over the course of 50 years, regardless of whether he did much actual fate-of-the-continent level questing.

Hey, don't tell me you kids have heard of Eugene Greenhilt but not the great bard Silvertongued Squeaky?!

Silvertongued Squeaky and his adventuring party fended off the Blue Dragon of Greendragonsville!

[Fyraltari]

Hey, don't tell me you kids have heard of Eugene Greenhilt but not the great bard Silvertongued Squeaky?! He fought alongside his adventuring party and fended off the Blue Dragon of Greendragonsville!

That was Horace Greenhilt. We've seen Eugene's party and Thirden wasn't on it.