OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread

[Windscion]

It's possible, seeing as Clan Thundershield looks like an adventuring guild more than a family of commoners, Squeaky and Janna could've clocked in enough gig time to get to 12th level. After all, Clan Thundershield has more reason than any other dwarven group not to sit around being dishonorable; they're descended from Helheim escapees.

Frickin' ninja'd. Yeah, these guys are gonna go hardcore after their escape.

[Ruck]

Looks like Durkon can keep on rockin’ in the free world.

We've gotten Elan's country-song freedom and Thirden and Janna's protest-rock freedom. I hope the next Song of Freedom we get is based on George Michael's "Freedom! '90".

[Peelee]

We've gotten Elan's country-song freedom and Thirden and Janna's protest-rock freedom. I hope the next Song of Freedom we get is based on George Michael's "Freedom! '90".

Spoiler: I must respectfully disagree.

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[understatement]

Elan is the best

[Scarlet Knight]

No, no...Richie Havens to honor the 50th anniversary of Woodstock Rockstock... "FREEDOM"!

[brian 333]

Yeah...
That's Lynyrd Skynyrd.

I was successfully repressing the memory of the tragic loss of Ronnie Van Zant until now. Darn you, now I have to listen to Freebird on a 24 hour loop again!

Also, +1 to Aretha's R.E.S.P.E.C.T. for the next time a Song of Freedom is needed.

[bunsen_h]

In that case, Sidgi would have brought it.

That would depend on who qualifies as "worthy". It might mean "an Nth-level cleric of Thor", or "personally approved by Thor".

Am I correct in thinking that the Song of Freedom could be used to restore Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator?

[OctoberRaven]

Headcanon: Thirden and Janna's lutes have the inscription: "This Machine Does 4d8 Damage To Lawful Evil"

[Peelee]

That would depend on who qualifies as "worthy". It might mean "an Nth-level cleric of Thor", or "personally approved by Thor".

Am I correct in thinking that the Song of Freedom could be used to restore Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator?

Apropos of nothing, but I love the username/avatar combo you're rocking.

[Algeh]

I think they must have left the hammer lying in the council room, because you need special gloves to be able to safely hold it, and they couldn't get the gloves off of Durkon's petrified form.

It seems to me that the hammer wouldn't have been left behind if there was any possible way to bring it -- it got a lot of attention, and isn't likely to have slipped everyone's mind. Unless it could only be moved by wearing those specific gloves, there should have been some way to manipulate it: some kind of levitation, some other gloves, throw a cloak over it, ... .

I suppose it could have a "nobody can lift it unless they are worthy" enchantment.

I can't imagine that Roy et al would have let them move Durkon all the way back to the Temple on Elan's say-so based on Bardic Arguments if the hammer could not also be moved.

Elan getting to interact with fellow bards is definitely one of those things I never knew I needed until I actually saw it.

Me too! I am hoping for bonus comics where they all hang out.

I'm also sad that we already have all of the wallpapers, because I'd love a Freedom series...maybe that'll be a Gumroad thing someday.

To say nothing of when he was awarded the Silver Dragon of Greendragonsville for his prowess with skiing on the White Dragon of Greendragonsville slopes.

Are we out of Dragons?

As long as you're willing to drag out obscure supplements and/or Dragon Magazine, we will NEVER run out of dragons...

[Particle_Man]

The dwarven bards must have used Song of Freedom, making them at least 12th level. That level is supposed to be rare. Sidgi must have called in a lot of favours to get those kind of reinforcements.

You mean like paying to resurrect one of the bards and saving his soul from Hel in the price? Because that is a difficult to impossible favour to repay.

Durkon can just call the hammer to himself. Recall the fight with the worm?

Also it could double as a nod to a few cinematic movies where a titular character’s hammer flies to him from a long distance (sometimes with a punchline involved)

Maybe this is how Curly dies?

[bunsen_h]

Apropos of nothing, but I love the username/avatar combo you're rocking.

Thank you! I've used the handle for a long time (though not much here), but the avatar is new. While I was reading some old forum stuff, I decided that I should try my hand at making my own avatar, and I'm pleased with the way it turned out.

[Anitar]

I hope I'm not the only person who completely and utterly overlooked the contents of the background in the Song of Freedom panel until they were pointed out in this thread.

[Ruck]

Spoiler: I must respectfully disagree.

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How many bards in OOTS-world could live up to that, though?

[Peelee]

How many bards in OOTS-world could live up to that, though?

Surely in the entire world there's a couple dozen epic level bards such that they could re-create the Blues Brothers movie. All they need is Matt Lute Murphy, Donald Dire Duck Dunn, Wille Too High AC Hall, Steve the Colonel of the EOB Cropper, Tom Bones & Other Spell Components Malone, Azurite Lou Marini, Alan Mr. Fabulous Dice Rolls Rubin, and Murph and the Arcane Magictones. Plus a handful or two of guest stars, like Scorching Ray Charles.

Is that too much to ask?

[bunsen_h]

Am I correct in thinking that the Song of Freedom could be used to restore Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator?

This leads me to wonder: How high could a Halfling with a +20 Ring of Jumping carry a small lizard? How much damage would an allosaurus, dropped from that height, do to someone underneath?

[BriarHobbit]

Elan is a "certified bardic genius." That is awesome. Hope that they get something, like a Heroes' Feast, to combat the disease that they picked up during their adventures in the South.

[Ruck]

Surely in the entire world there's a couple dozen epic level bards such that they could re-create the Blues Brothers movie. All they need is Matt Lute Murphy, Donald Dire Duck Dunn, Wille Too High AC Hall, Steve the Colonel of the EOB Cropper, Tom Bones & Other Spell Components Malone, Azurite Lou Marini, Alan Mr. Fabulous Dice Rolls Rubin, and Murph and the Arcane Magictones. Plus a handful or two of guest stars, like Scorching Ray Charles.

Is that too much to ask?

In a world where Elan is a "certified bardic genius" (which, still, love it, one of my favorite aside punchlines to the comic ever, and one that made me realize we never have seen how Elan with his fellow bards and how he would be regarded by them), I'm not sure a couple dozen epic-level bards are in supply.

[Fyraltari]

Spoiler: I must respectfully disagree.

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Approved. After all, Durkon is on a mission from Thor.

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mjasghar, if you want to reply to someone but nobody has posted since you last did I recommend clicking on "quote", typing your answer and then checking the thread. If there is still no new post, then edit your last post and paste your reply in it.

[5crownik007]

I do love me some Freedom.

[Lord of stuff]

So what happened to Durkons hammer? Where is it now?

[Wizard_Lizard]

Freedom!!!

[Jannoire]

Surely in the entire world there's a couple dozen epic level bards such that they could re-create the Blues Brothers movie. All they need is Matt Lute Murphy, Donald Dire Duck Dunn, Wille Too High AC Hall, Steve the Colonel of the EOB Cropper, Tom Bones & Other Spell Components Malone, Azurite Lou Marini, Alan Mr. Fabulous Dice Rolls Rubin, and Murph and the Arcane Magictones. Plus a handful or two of guest stars, like Scorching Ray Charles.

Is that too much to ask?

There are 106 miles to the north pole, the Mechane's got a full balloon of helium, there is half a ration of holy ale, it's underground and Blackwing's wearing sunglasses.

[Schroeswald]

That would depend on who qualifies as "worthy". It might mean "an Nth-level cleric of Thor", or "personally approved by Thor".

Am I correct in thinking that the Song of Freedom could be used to restore Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator?

But uh... would you want to do that right now? Like I know Bloodfeast should be restored, but not on the Mechane, you have to wait until we reach the North Pole and whip him out of the pokeball going “Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator! I choose you!”

[Giscard76]

How long will it be before the Certified Bardic Genius T-Shirt and coffee mugs are on sale

[Morgana]

That made me realize that the polymorph was acually a good thing in the long run, as they would never have been able to transport him to the ship, and fly with him on board with his original form

[Schroeswald]

That made me realize that the polymorph was acually a good thing in the long run, as they would never have been able to transport him to the ship, and fly with him on board with his original form

And it’s easily reversible because V has polymorph, so Belkar on Bloodfeast can fight Oona on Lancer in the final battle.

[pendell]

Well, that answers that mystery. Song of Freedom breaks the domination and the stoning, so Durkon's free to continue his adventure. And that is pretty much the end of the chapter and the story. Looking forward to what comes next!

ETA: I had anticipated it would be more difficult to break the spell of the barriers, but I suppose the security system relies on the fact that any use of magic when the barriers are active will also result in petrification. Actually, I wonder if bardic song counts as "magical" for the purpose of the barrier in the first place?

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[Roderick_BR]

Well, Elan IS an experienced bard.

Also, getting him out of the meeting room was a good move to be sure he wouldn't be re=stone, since the meeting was not adjourned, as they said. Better safe than sorry.

[Fyraltari]

I had anticipated it would be more difficult to break the spell of the barriers, but I suppose the security system relies on the fact that any use of magic when the barriers are active will also result in petrification. Actually, I wonder if bardic song counts as "magical" for the purpose of the barrier in the first place?

Since the petrification only lasts until the meeting is adjourned anyway it is just a temporary containment measure until the proper authorities can decide on an appropriate punishment if needed so it makes sense that it isn't a uber-powerful effect.