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    Default Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fish View Post
    In other words, how much mist can Miss Mistform miss if Miss Mistform must miss mist?
    Misterfully put.
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    (paraphrased) Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
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    Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    I remember, back in the day, having a magic user set up an about-to-detonate device, getting a gelatinous cube to surround that, then using Sepia Snake Sigil (IIRC) to get a temporal stasis on the gelatinous cube. It was a doomsday device, of sorts.
    As a sepia snake sigil need to be read, and a gelatinous cube isn't literate, that just couldn't have worked at all.

    But then again, most "clever ideas" by PCs fall into the "not thinking it through" category by default.

    Note that the smoky confinement spell (Complete Mage) is much more useful for this kind of things.
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    DM: I said, roll for initiative. They like their cheese really ripe in these parts. They have the ooze type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by St Fan View Post
    As a sepia snake sigil need to be read, and a gelatinous cube isn't literate, that just couldn't have worked at all.
    Not sure what edition they were referring to. Back in the day could have referred to a pre WoTC D&D time ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    Not sure what edition they were referring to. Back in the day could have referred to a pre WoTC D&D time ....
    True, sepia snake sigil got nerfed a lot by the successive editions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    Misterfully put.
    Spoken like a master mystic who must have amassed the most mist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish View Post
    In other words, how much mist can Miss Mistform miss if Miss Mistform must miss mist?

    Miss Mistform can miss as much mist as Miss Mistform must miss if Miss Mistformís mist must be mussed.
    Misterfully put.
    Hmm, something is amiss here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Hmm, something is amiss here.
    I think you meant something is amist here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schroeswald View Post
    I think you meant something is amist here!
    I suspect you have mist the point.





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    Quote Originally Posted by St Fan View Post
    True, sepia snake sigil got nerfed a lot by the successive editions.
    This was the version from Unearthed Arcana when that book was first released. I don't have the book, but as I recall, the spell could be written as a symbol, or could be cast directly on a creature.

    I may be misremembering that it was SSS, but it was definitely some kind of time-stop effect that could be cast on a creature, and the creature could be seen within, albeit with some distortion. SSS is the only thing that I can think of that would fit. It was one of several spells from that source that -- used creatively -- were much too powerful for their supposed levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post
    I suspect you have mist the point.
    *rimshot*
    Perhaps they missed a mister?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    This was the version from Unearthed Arcana when that book was first released. I don't have the book, but as I recall, the spell could be written as a symbol, or could be cast directly on a creature.
    Ah, {Scrubbed}, page 56. The stasis lasts indefinitely "until the caster releases the dweomer or until a dispel magic spell does so", there's no duration limitation on how long the glyph remains active once it's drawn, and it can be drawn on a surface to be triggered when it's "touched or gazed upon". One could wallpaper a room with them. Got spell resistance? How many rolls until you fail one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    Ah, {Scrub the post, scrub the quote} The stasis lasts indefinitely "until the caster releases the dweomer or until a dispel magic spell does so", there's no duration limitation on how long the glyph remains active once it's drawn, and it can be drawn on a surface to be triggered when it's "touched or gazed upon". One could wallpaper a room with them. Got spell resistance? How many rolls until you fail one?
    I love it when the only thing stopping you from cracking the game open with a +5 Vorpal Sledgehammer is having to ask the DM if they don't mind that you stock up on scrolls
    Last edited by jdizzlean; 2019-09-06 at 05:15 AM.
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    Default Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread

    Given the XP requirements for making scrolls back then, the GM should say no to stocking up on your own, unless you've made a new sheet for each level and saved the old ones. Unlike later editions, you can lose levels from spending too much XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Given the XP requirements for making scrolls back then, the GM should say no to stocking up on your own, unless you've made a new sheet for each level and saved the old ones. Unlike later editions, you can lose levels from spending too much XP.
    At that time, there wasn't an XP cost to making scrolls, or at least there was nothing in the DMG about it. It was time-consuming and expensive in terms of ingredients.

    As for the Sepia Snake Sigil specifically, one could cast it on a piece of paper (or other small item), stuff the paper/whatever away someplace, and then pull it out and display it or stick it up on a wall or whatever. Not quite as good as a scroll, but much less trouble and expense. As I said, for a 3rd-level spell, it was grossly overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Perhaps they missed a mister?
    Take these broken wiiiiiiiiiiiiings
    It's a myistery
    An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of stuff View Post
    So what happened to Durkons hammer? Where is it now?
    It's clearly in hammerspace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorkas View Post
    It's clearly in hammerspace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post
    It's a myistery
    I believe that you mean... ... mistery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard_Lizard View Post
    I believe that you mean... ... mistery
    But.

    I did.

    What do you think is in that weird empty space between the y and the s?
    An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post
    But.

    I did.

    What do you think is in that weird empty space between the y and the s?
    I mist've mist that.
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    Especially with Belkar right there!
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