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Thread: So who made Thor Drink?
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2019-10-14, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: So who made Thor Drink?
That's a valid point. "Pointless/useless" is certainly one valid interpretation of "dumb nonsense." I decided to go with the other one ("fiction/superstition") after reading the full context of what Thor said: "Belief is when mortals know that we exist, in these specific identities." Also, "He's getting better as he absorbs more Belief from your world."
I acknowledge that I'm making one important assumption here: If Odin requires "good" Belief from our world to get better, that implies that his affliction is a result either insufficient or deficient Belief from the prior world. That assumption absolutely isn't supported in the text anywhere. It's an arbitrary system written by the Giant, and for all I know it's a weird Rock/Scissors/Paper system where Belief repairs damage from lack of Worship, Worship fixes lack of Dedication, Dedication fixes lack of Belief, and Souls just keep the lights on.
You can think something exists and also think that thing is silly and not worth bothering with, and in fact it never even occurred to me until just now that that passage could be read as them thinking magic does not exist.
The barbarians thought magic existed, but only that stupid people bothered with it, and as a result the god of magic's mental capabilities suffered.
The barbarians thought magic didn't exist, in a world where magic presumably exists
For barbarians who similarly believe in higher beings, but not "Magic" (however you want to delineate that), it would be pretty simple for them to explain away any real Magic they see as either divine intervention, unknown technology, or plain trickery.
(Were there worlds where magic actually didn't exist? What would that do to Odin?).
And rather than turning into a god of lies or dropping magic from his portfolio, Odin's mental faculties suffered as a result of this lack of belief in magic.
The real world is full of people who know on a rational level that they must change in order to achieve some goal: Be less timid in order to advance at work or get dates, control their temper in order to avoid being fired, stop procrastinating in order to get decent grades an finish their degree. A great many of these people fail.
As to your theory about gods matching details of their follower's belief in order to benefit more from it... Why is Odin still acting loopy? This specifically runs counter to what mortals think Odin is like, given Minrah's reaction to it.
Remember, Odin's basically senile. His free will has been subverted in the way that malnutrition or mental health disorders have the power to subvert free will in real life.