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    I've never put milk in an omelette. Just straight beaten eggs and filling.

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    Really enjoy how that's the one you took notice of. Anyway it makes omelette's fluffier and a little thicker, just put like a tablespoon of milk in there and it does WONDERS. I tend to put too much though. Once got an omelette about like... maybe three inches thick? It was good as **** though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iruka View Post
    I would not be comfortable drinking from something that looks so much like a bottle of detergent ...
    Also seems like a lot of milk at once. We are talking about one of those, right? My googling gives me conflicting results ...
    ...the heck kind of detergent y'all got in Germany that looks like milk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    ...the heck kind of detergent y'all got in Germany that looks like milk?


    Huzzahs all around!

    Anyway, glass is heavy and expensive. Recycles great, though. I'd be up for it, the manufacturers and distributors don't seem to like it.
    Not the detergent itself, but a lot of cleaning stuff comes in white plastic jugs like this, so it seems kinda weird. Might just be me.
    I cannot remember seeing containers of milk larger than one liter around here, mostly cartons. Glass bottles have fallen out of favour since I was a kid and are now almost exclusively used by organic brands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iruka View Post
    Not the detergent itself, but a lot of cleaning stuff comes in white plastic jugs like this, so it seems kinda weird. Might just be me.
    Aha. Most of our detergents are in brightly colored jugs that are variably shaped, while the milk jug-style jug is also used for distilled water, sweet tea, lemonade, and the like. The drink jugs are also clear, so the milk ones only look white because they hold milk.
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    Really enjoy how that's the one you took notice of. Anyway it makes omelette's fluffier and a little thicker, just put like a tablespoon of milk in there and it does WONDERS. I tend to put too much though. Once got an omelette about like... maybe three inches thick? It was good as **** though.

    Yup! Progress, however slight, has been made!
    Well it's because none of the others differed from my experience.

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    Anyway, glass is heavy and expensive. Recycles great, though. I'd be up for it, the manufacturers and distributors don't seem to like it.
    I'd move entirely to glass containers if given the chance. Unfortunately I can rarely find drinks and the like in it.
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    Well it's because none of the others differed from my experience.

    I'd move entirely to glass containers if given the chance. Unfortunately I can rarely find drinks and the like in it.
    I'm glad to see I have found another gluttonous monster to be friends with.

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    To be fair hippo's are actually surprisingly agile given their size. But yeah that's cool and all but I don't really want the hardest hard realism ever. That's why I dislike Battletech, it's just a bunch of walking gun platforms and that's so ****ing boring. Gundam is real robot, but it's got ESPers and beam swords and humanoid mechs that are basically Large Infantry and I like that so much more. Also funnels! I cannot begin to describe how much I LOVE funnels. Just these little flying drones you control with your brain (or with an intensely steady hand and some fishing wire) that fly around shooting stuff at your enemy. It's great I love them so much and they're so cute and all the mechs that make use of funnels are my favorite.
    I know like two pages of conversation have passed since this post but I figured I'd throw my two cents in anyway and agree. I don't even like watching Gundam or anything (there was one short series that I liked and it was still a little too heavy on anime cliches for my liking) but man, they're so much more varied and interesting than some of the other 'big robot of death' franchises out there (plus Gundam Versus is just a ridiculously fun game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade View Post
    I know like two pages of conversation have passed since this post but I figured I'd throw my two cents in anyway and agree. I don't even like watching Gundam or anything (there was one short series that I liked and it was still a little too heavy on anime cliches for my liking) but man, they're so much more varied and interesting than some of the other 'big robot of death' franchises out there (plus Gundam Versus is just a ridiculously fun game).
    IT really depends on the series, given Gundam's so old it can cater to everyone. Want big dumb idiot super robot fights where the power of love manifests as a giant king who becomes a heart shaped laser and the hero and his girlfriend blow a heart shaped hole through the literal robot-devil? Watch G-Gundam because not one single word uttered here is a lie.

    Want to be severely depressed and sad all the time because of the cost of human life due to the horrors of war, but also everyone is a girl trying to protect one small soft awful child? Watch V Gundam! Or don't! It's good but it's weird.

    Wanna watch a series about the legacy of war and also the protagonist is trans because the studio wouldn't let Tomino just make them a girl, and also like mechs to have large dumb moustaches because of a really silly joke that no one but me gets? Watch Turn A Gundam. Please watch Turn A it's so good.

    Gundam caters to everyone and thing, and primarily me. There's even series that are bad but fun, like Gundam Wing. Or series that are bad but bad, like Gundam Seed and everything related to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    IT really depends on the series, given Gundam's so old it can cater to everyone. Want big dumb idiot super robot fights where the power of love manifests as a giant king who becomes a heart shaped laser and the hero and his girlfriend blow a heart shaped hole through the literal robot-devil? Watch G-Gundam because not one single word uttered here is a lie.

    Want to be severely depressed and sad all the time because of the cost of human life due to the horrors of war, but also everyone is a girl trying to protect one small soft awful child? Watch V Gundam! Or don't! It's good but it's weird.

    Wanna watch a series about the legacy of war and also the protagonist is trans because the studio wouldn't let Tomino just make them a girl, and also like mechs to have large dumb moustaches because of a really silly joke that no one but me gets? Watch Turn A Gundam. Please watch Turn A it's so good.

    Gundam caters to everyone and thing, and primarily me. There's even series that are bad but fun, like Gundam Wing. Or series that are bad but bad, like Gundam Seed and everything related to it.
    The one I've seen all the way through was 8th MS Team. I've seen bits and pieces of others that lost me for one reason or another (especially Gundam Seed, now that you mention it-- I think that one might have turned me off Gundam as a whole more than any of them. So many anime cliches.)

    Also, isn't G Gundam the one where countries duke it out with Gundams that range from silly stereotypes of their country of origin to borderline 'man this is kind of racist'?
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    I'm glad to see I have found another gluttonous monster to be friends with.

    Two nights ago I drank an entire litre of milk because it was going to go bad the next day. No mistakes were made.
    Is it possible to drink too much milk?

    Actually it kind of is in my case. Lactose intolerance means too much diary isn't pleasant for me. It's a shame, I actually really like diary, and have trouble not gorging myself on milk and cheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade View Post
    The one I've seen all the way through was 8th MS Team. I've seen bits and pieces of others that lost me for one reason or another (especially Gundam Seed, now that you mention it-- I think that one might have turned me off Gundam as a whole more than any of them. So many anime cliches.)

    Also, isn't G Gundam the one where countries duke it out with Gundams that range from silly stereotypes of their country of origin to borderline 'man this is kind of racist'?
    Seed is definitely bad enough to scare people off the entire franchise, yeah. 8th MS Team rules though.

    I don't think any of them ever hit that bad beyond maybe the Tequila Gundam, but it's also meant to be parody in that regard. It's extremely good.

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    Is it possible to drink too much milk?

    Actually it kind of is in my case. Lactose intolerance means too much diary isn't pleasant for me. It's a shame, I actually really like diary, and have trouble not gorging myself on milk and cheese.
    Absolutely.

    Also hell yeah. I'm not intolerant of milk but it's always nice to see people who are who also just, straight slam milk down their face. Because it's hilarious. Most allergies are like "if I so much as breath this I will die" and Lactose Inteolerents are like "oh yeah this'll make me feel awful. Now hand my my ice cream back please".
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Seed is definitely bad enough to scare people off the entire franchise, yeah. 8th MS Team rules though.

    I don't think any of them ever hit that bad beyond maybe the Tequila Gundam, but it's also meant to be parody in that regard. It's extremely good.
    Honestly I'm just bitter because Armenia doesn't get a Gundam in G Gundam

    I watched 8th MS Team a pretty long time ago but I remember digging it. It's also not as awful when it comes to female characters as some of the other Gundam shows I've dabbled in, which is a plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade View Post
    Honestly I'm just bitter because Armenia doesn't get a Gundam in G Gundam

    I watched 8th MS Team a pretty long time ago but I remember digging it. It's also not as awful when it comes to female characters as some of the other Gundam shows I've dabbled in, which is a plus.
    I really liked that one as a kid, then I tried to rewatch it and gave up after two episodes. The issue was more that it had 90s voice dubbing then the plot, but like One Piece I think it is going to be sub only.
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    Absolutely.

    Also hell yeah. I'm not intolerant of milk but it's always nice to see people who are who also just, straight slam milk down their face. Because it's hilarious. Most allergies are like "if I so much as breath this I will die" and Lactose Inteolerents are like "oh yeah this'll make me feel awful. Now hand my my ice cream back please".
    I mean, it's not really an allergy. Ingest too much of the wrong pollen and I die (in theory, I got my tonsils removed as a toddler because it nearly happened), I have too much lactose I feel terrible and you'll want to give it half an hour after I've been to the bathroom. I only bring it up because IIRC real lactose/diary allergies are a thing, just incredibly rare.

    There are two toes of lactose intolerant people, those who'll avoid chocolate because they'll feel terrible, and those who'll scoff an entire wheel of Stilton because it's there. I very much fall into the latter category, when drinking milk it'll be in the largest glass I can find, I'll pay for it later but it's delicious. Some people straight up don't believe me when I tell them I'm LI because they've just seem me eat a litre of cheese.

    I did try cutting diary out once, but life's too short to avoid it.

    I do take tea and coffee black, but that's personal preference. Now please give me back my ice cream.
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    Ah, giant robots/mecha/bipedal tanks. Is there anything else that manages to be so impractical yet such a beloved idea?
    (I suppose hologrammatic displays are another one.)

    Not that I'm complaining, of course.

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    Ah, giant robots/mecha/bipedal tanks. Is there anything else that manages to be so impractical yet such a beloved idea?
    (I suppose hologrammatic displays are another one.)

    Not that I'm complaining, of course.
    The whole "mechs are impractical!" argument has never held any weight for me because bitch look at history and name one time where humans did something practical over something absolutely gob smacked stupid and awesome instead.


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    The whole "mechs are impractical!" argument has never held any weight for me because bitch look at history and name one time where humans did something practical over something absolutely gob smacked stupid and awesome instead.
    Trench warfare.
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    The whole "mechs are impractical!" argument has never held any weight for me because bitch look at history and name one time where humans did something practical over something absolutely gob smacked stupid and awesome instead.
    Sadly, the stuff that tends to get eventually rolled out into use between "X" and "X but better", tends to be the latter. Hence why settings need handwaves to use X.
    (Or just deliberately ignore it for that very reason. Because it's cool and awesome.)

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    Trench warfare.
    Trench warfare is not practical and is in fact an utter meat grinder.


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    Tanks can't swing chainsaws in their hands if they don't have hands, ergo mechs are the height of practicality.

    It is rather funny that humans have all of these advantages over other animals in endurance, flexible design and tool usage but humanoid robots are awful.
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    Trench warfare is not practical and is in fact an utter meat grinder.
    It's practical insomuch as it provides a massive defensive advantage. Attacking… not so much. Which is, of course, where issues lay.

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    It is rather funny that humans have all of these advantages over other animals in endurance, flexible design and tool usage but humanoid robots are awful.
    Limitations of code, alas. A robot simply can't adapt naturally to even something as simple as putting one's foot down for a step. It's not the design's fault so much as it is the computer's.
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    It's practical insomuch as it provides a massive defensive advantage. Attacking… not so much. Which is, of course, where issues lay.
    No one tried the obvious solution of towing wooden buses full of troops held up by hot air balloon behind biplanes, which makes me sad. Single use troop carrier dirigibles were the future everyone needed (except the people inside them probably.)

    Edit: Computers can beat us in Go and are going to take our jobs, can't figure out this walking trick. Leading to the bad future where we do manual labor and they run the stock exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    The whole "mechs are impractical!" argument has never held any weight for me because bitch look at history and name one time where humans did something practical over something absolutely gob smacked stupid and awesome instead.
    Giant robots are ostensibly war machines, and "stupid but awesome" generally describes the losing strategy in war. Rome very nearly got wiped off the map because they cleaved to honor and glory against Hannibal rather than engage in "cowardly" tactics like ambushes from favorable terrain. They also absolutely loathed Fabian tactics of harassing the enemy line because it was also "cowardly" and not even close to awesome.

    It's also a major reason that Rome survived the second Punic war.

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    Trench warfare is not practical and is in fact an utter meat grinder.
    Trench warfare was actually the most practical strategy for the time. It made your defensive line essentially unassailable, which is why everybody used it.

    The problem is that if everyone's line is unassailable, there's never an end to the conflict. And since everyone was using trench warfare, weeeeeell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTangible View Post
    Giant robots are ostensibly war machines, and "stupid but awesome" generally describes the losing strategy in war. Rome very nearly got wiped off the map because they cleaved to honor and glory against Hannibal rather than engage in "cowardly" tactics like ambushes from favorable terrain. They also absolutely loathed Fabian tactics of harassing the enemy line because it was also "cowardly" and not even close to awesome.

    It's also a major reason that Rome survived the second Punic war.



    Trench warfare was actually the most practical strategy for the time. It made your defensive line essentially unassailable, which is why everybody used it.

    The problem is that if everyone's line is unassailable, there's never an end to the conflict. And since everyone was using trench warfare, weeeeeell...
    There's nothing awesome about needlessly clinging to honour over tactics, is the thing, so that's very Stupid but not Awesome. Stealthing across a battlefield to sneak attack the enemy army entirely? Now that's stupid AND awesome (but also smart since things can be dumb and smart at the same time).

    Nothing is good about perpetual war, ergo trench warfare is not practical, nor is it stupid or awesome. It's just Bad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    There's nothing awesome about needlessly clinging to honour over tactics, is the thing, so that's very Stupid but not Awesome.
    Glory is, by definition, awesome. And most awesome things are also very, very stupid (using a too big for you, for example)

    Giant robots are the impractical kind of stupid. See square cube law.

    Stealthing across a battlefield to sneak attack the enemy army entirely? Now that's stupid AND awesome (but also smart since things can be dumb and smart at the same time).
    This... isn't what Hannibal did at any point I can recall. IIRC he preferred to bait his enemies into terrible positions.

    Nothing is good about perpetual war, ergo trench warfare is not practical, nor is it stupid or awesome. It's just Bad.
    Zodi, trench warfare was used because it was the most viable strategy available. Using any other tactic (on land, anyway) meant you lost to the guys who WERE using trench warfare.
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    Zodi, trench warfare was used because it was the most viable strategy available. Using any other tactic (on land, anyway) meant you lost to the guys who WERE using trench warfare.
    I know I'm just saying war bad, that's all


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    I know I'm just saying war bad, that's all
    But giant robots made for war good?
    Gimmie anything futuretech, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DataNinja View Post
    But giant robots made for war good?
    Gimmie anything futuretech, really.
    Fictional war isn't harming anyone so it's (mostly) fine~

    Also giant war robots means also giant for fun robots. Imagine how cool a robot fighting league would be.


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