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    Rolling for HP: (9d8)[2][8][7][6][2][7][4][8][1](45)
    "Everything in creation is flawed. Humans don't need to be mentioned. Air, intent, and even time. My eyes can see the death of things. They're special, like yours. So I can kill anything that lives. Even if that thing is God."

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    I have a simple concept, but its still pretty good:

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    Rerolling the 1: (1d8)[8]
    "Everything in creation is flawed. Humans don't need to be mentioned. Air, intent, and even time. My eyes can see the death of things. They're special, like yours. So I can kill anything that lives. Even if that thing is God."

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    I actually would like to know if water is gonna be an issue. I know most jungles have rivers, and thats a cool idea.
    But I am scared if I make a Vampire he is gonna get ashed if he falls into the water of a river. Yes this is negated for races that have a swim speed but those are few.

    Also was the ruling on Lycans that they are the Animal CR+1 but still allowing for class levels after (So a Were-Jaguar would be a CR 4 then 6 levels of classes)

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    This is relatively minor, but would you allow me to combine a Mask and a Holy Symbol into one item?

    Edit: Also, how likely are we going to find a blacksmith down the line? I dont want to get Atem armor that he cant wear after a Lvl up unless I'd be able to upgrade him from Medium to Large size armor at some point
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    Thinking of going Blackblade Magus, where it's the blade manipulating or straight compelling the wielder to go on this expedition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samduke View Post
    neck items, immune disease then add immune poison its horribly expensive for both individual items and there are no other items that do either, and the next closest are spells which I took as a backup
    No, I donít think so, sorry.

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    Go for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeMonsters View Post
    I actually would like to know if water is gonna be an issue. I know most jungles have rivers, and thats a cool idea.
    But I am scared if I make a Vampire he is gonna get ashed if he falls into the water of a river. Yes this is negated for races that have a swim speed but those are few.

    Also was the ruling on Lycans that they are the Animal CR+1 but still allowing for class levels after (So a Were-Jaguar would be a CR 4 then 6 levels of classes)
    Running water is definitely going to be a thing in the jungle, though you wonít be forced onto if you donít want to.

    Also, yes lycanthropes get class levels afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticHarmony View Post
    This is relatively minor, but would you allow me to combine a Mask and a Holy Symbol into one item?

    Edit: Also, how likely are we going to find a blacksmith down the line? I dont want to get Atem armor that he cant wear after a Lvl up unless I'd be able to upgrade him from Medium to Large size armor at some point
    As long as it doesnít have other magical properties, you may use a mask as a holy symbol. It must visibly incorporate your godís insignia in a prominent place though.

    Blacksmiths are rare but not impossible to find.

    Quote Originally Posted by Athaleon View Post
    Thinking of going Blackblade Magus, where it's the blade manipulating or straight compelling the wielder to go on this expedition.
    Sounds like it could be interesting. Go ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry the 57th
    As long as it doesnít have other magical properties, you may use a mask as a holy symbol. It must visibly incorporate your godís insignia in a prominent place though.

    Blacksmiths are rare but not impossible to find.
    His symbol is a Sha head, and it's going to be a Gold Sha Mask, so it definitely is in a prominent place 😁

    I think I'll just change his Favored Aspect and invest the gold in something else then, thank you
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    Alright then.
    If I got a swim speed via a spell or gear, would that remove the water weakness while wearing it or it being active? Because the template says if the creature has a swim speed it doesnt get the water weakness.

    Oh the otherhand I was looking and a stacking of Worm that Walks + Demonic Vermin looks interesting and gives me the demonic and draconic languages to boot. That would cost 3 levels as well.

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    Here is Sallech Aranxes, a tiefling Arcanist who is always seeking more arcane power to use in the name of his god, the demon lord Abraxas. I havenít quite finished the backstory yet, but Iíll have it done in a day or so.

    Edit: also, requesting the Half-Fiend template. Not sure if Iíll use it yet, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeMonsters View Post
    Alright then.
    If I got a swim speed via a spell or gear, would that remove the water weakness while wearing it or it being active? Because the template says if the creature has a swim speed it doesnt get the water weakness.

    Oh the otherhand I was looking and a stacking of Worm that Walks + Demonic Vermin looks interesting and gives me the demonic and draconic languages to boot. That would cost 3 levels as well.
    Interesting question. I would say that particular weakness is removed as long as the vampire moves every round. If you get pinned in place in running water, you start taking damage as normal.

    You get one template. Not two.

    Quote Originally Posted by In4Dimensions View Post
    Here is Sallech Aranxes, a tiefling Arcanist who is always seeking more arcane power to use in the name of his god, the demon lord Abraxas. I havenít quite finished the backstory yet, but Iíll have it done in a day or so.

    Edit: also, requesting the Half-Fiend template. Not sure if Iíll use it yet, though.
    The Half-Fiend template is acceptable, though please note as a creature greater than 5HD it will cost you 2 CR and per the rules you do not gain a flight speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry the 57th View Post
    The Half-Fiend template is acceptable, though please note as a creature greater than 5HD it will cost you 2 CR and per the rules you do not gain a flight speed.
    Sounds good.
    One more question: would you consider loosening the requirements of the Souldrinker PrC to the level of the Deific Obedience PrCs? (Evangelist, Exalted, Sentinel). Those all can be entered at level 6, but the Fiendish Obedience PrCs (Souldrinker, Demoniac, Diabolist) can only be entered at level 8.
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    Oh right, sorry it was late when I was thinking that.

    Are we gonna do CR buy off? I think for a CR 3 (Vampire+1) we could reduce one level. Maybe more but I think one.
    Thanks for all the answers btw, you're great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In4Dimensions View Post
    Sounds good.
    One more question: would you consider loosening the requirements of the Souldrinker PrC to the level of the Deific Obedience PrCs? (Evangelist, Exalted, Sentinel). Those all can be entered at level 6, but the Fiendish Obedience PrCs (Souldrinker, Demoniac, Diabolist) can only be entered at level 8.
    Yes, I am willing to make that allowance.

    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeMonsters View Post
    Oh right, sorry it was late when I was thinking that.

    Are we gonna do CR buy off? I think for a CR 3 (Vampire+1) we could reduce one level. Maybe more but I think one.
    Thanks for all the answers btw, you're great.
    Not at the start, no. I might choose to give you the opportunity later, but for now youíre stuck with any CR you choose to take.
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    Thats all I wanted to know, wasn't expecting it from the start.

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    Inspiration has finally struck. Let's see if the dice cooperate.

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    For everyone's convenience and reference, I'm starting a table of the submitted characters so far.
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    Janwin Sir Darrik Highwater
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    okay I think that Mari is ready but let me know if something is off

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    Well, I sat down to stat up Sanaa the occultist, and it turns out that lycanthropes' ability to just flat-out set ability scores to those of the base animal in hybrid form has some significant implications above and beyond "+2 Str, +2 Con".

    If I can get away with keeping that at +1 LA, I'll take it - but in the likely event it merits a surcharge, I'll have to respec... possibly out of Occultist altogether, honestly, since an Int-based caster is too crowded in a field with I4D's submission. Maybe a sorcerer instead.

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    okay I think that Mari is ready but let me know if something is off
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    Well, I sat down to stat up Sanaa the occultist, and it turns out that lycanthropes' ability to just flat-out set ability scores to those of the base animal in hybrid form has some significant implications above and beyond "+2 Str, +2 Con".

    If I can get away with keeping that at +1 LA, I'll take it - but in the likely event it merits a surcharge, I'll have to respec... possibly out of Occultist altogether, honestly, since an Int-based caster is too crowded in a field with I4D's submission. Maybe a sorcerer instead.
    Adding both of them:
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    Janwin Sir Darrik Highwater
    In4Dimensions Sallech Aranxes
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    Foryn Gilnith Sanaa the Occultist

    @Foryn Gilnith: Lycanthropy costs the CR of the animal you change into +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry the 57th View Post
    @Foryn Gilnith: Lycanthropy costs the CR of the animal you change into +1.
    I see. I found that entire discussion very confusing to follow along with so I didn't understand what conclusion had been arrived at.

    Might stick with Sanaa (using the aforementioned revanchist motivation &c&c) or submit a different character of Vudran origin, more "academically" oriented, interested in what becomes of the human spirit in times of duress (both metaphorically and metaphysically). He would be coming out on this expedition for both personal enlightenment and a chance to form a personal connection with an ages-old lich - and if Al Bhaid is willing to help him turn a nation or two into a grand experimental site, so much the better.

    Will have to spend the next couple of days thinking about what resonates more.

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    Couple of questions:
    - Would it be possible for me to use the retraining feat rule so that my witch could get Split Hex feat when he got to level 10?
    - Is flight not possible by any means at all, or only through magical means? (e.g. flying on an animal companion is okay?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foryn Gilnith View Post
    I see. I found that entire discussion very confusing to follow along with so I didn't understand what conclusion had been arrived at.

    Might stick with Sanaa (using the aforementioned revanchist motivation &c&c) or submit a different character of Vudran origin, more "academically" oriented, interested in what becomes of the human spirit in times of duress (both metaphorically and metaphysically). He would be coming out on this expedition for both personal enlightenment and a chance to form a personal connection with an ages-old lich - and if Al Bhaid is willing to help him turn a nation or two into a grand experimental site, so much the better.

    Will have to spend the next couple of days thinking about what resonates more.
    Sorry if I failed to make it clear enough. Good luck with your character either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by grifter730 View Post
    Couple of questions:
    - Would it be possible for me to use the retraining feat rule so that my witch could get Split Hex feat when he got to level 10?
    - Is flight not possible by any means at all, or only through magical means? (e.g. flying on an animal companion is okay?)
    Why would you need retraining to take that?

    Flight is not accessible in any way at the start, because that would rather cheapen your trek through the unforgiving jungle. Same with teleportation.
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    Why would you need retraining to take that?
    It requires level 10, I believe, and the last feat we got was level 9, at which point the character would not have qualified. Without retraining (or some way to get a bonus feat at level 10) it wouldn't be available til level 11.
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    Why would you need retraining to take that?
    It requires a level 10 witch to be able to take the feat, and witches only get feats at the usual odd levels, so I won't be able to take it until level 11 unless I use retraining.

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    Would you allow the Cruel weapon enhancement to be added via Arcane Pool? Black Blades can't be enhanced any other way or I'd have just bought it.

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    Looking at the new rulings, there is a change I'll be having to make to Mirielle. I had built her with three traits (one from a drawback) so she could have all three important social skills as a class skill.

    And one little question: What's your perspective on Leadership? I'm looking for a way to start with some skeletons to carry me around, wave the fan around, and stuff like that. I would also have a mummified companion who would be focused on defense and just standing around. I'm not much for the minmaxing, so she wouldn't be all that powerful.

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