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Thread: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2020-01-02, 05:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
PartyOfRogues, why did you vote for JeenLeen last day?
I'm not totally on board, but it's either them or JeenLeen, so I'll follow the seer-claim, even though we did say that claiming is useless in a bastard game.
Though I'm more suspicious of PartyOfRogues as an american then the madman. I feel like their last minute vote was to protect Gac3. But I also believe that the americans killed Grek, so it all works out.
Also, is it me or are Erin666 and role name written in a different color then usual for victims? (I'm daltonic so it's highly possibile that it's me)Last edited by Valmark; 2020-01-02 at 08:52 AM.
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2020-01-02, 06:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I’m puzzled by that last-minute vote. At that point gac3 was going to be lynched anyway, so why bother?
Do the spies have a nightkill, then? Because that would make sense. Also, @Caerulea, when you mentioned “two shots” did you mean someone tried to kill someone else and it was blocked?
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2020-01-02, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2020-01-02, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2020-01-02, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I wonder why JeenLeen doesn't want to vote for JeenLeen. It's truly an unfathomable mistery.
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2020-01-02, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I’ve pretty much lost track of who’s dead, I’ll be honest.
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2020-01-02, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Er. That's... not true? AvatarVecna was revealed as the Cook day one, and the Newlyweds were both described as such. I don't know for sure if it's true for any of the spies but I'd assume so. EDIT: (Although maybe not! I am, in fact, making an assumption)
EDIT: Also the Captain, for an example of a neutral role getting killed and being revealed. Here, why don't I just...
EDIT2: Noted that the only confirmed neutral role, Caerula as the captain, was in purple, the rest have been the same shade of green.
Spoiler: All deaths and corresponding role informationD1: AV, Cook- town role, role confirmed, from open role list.
N1: Caerule, Captain- neutral, role confirmed, previously unknown role. Only role in purple so far.
D2: Xenopax. American spy, name same color as AV's but no confirmation of town or not. Role may or may not have been revealed- I don't know if "American spy" is a role, an affiliation, or both.
N2: Grek and Unavenger, newlyweds- town role, role confirmed, from open role list.
D3: gac3. Another "American spy." This time, the flavor text included a note about being a coordinator/leader? Probably important, but not to me.
N3: Erin666. Same colour name as confirmed town roles and american spies, role appears to be confirmed as passenger, previously unknown role.
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2020-01-02, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-02, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-02, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
PartyOfRogues for the seer test.
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2020-01-03, 03:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-03, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I'd actually say JeenLeen is fairly non-suspicious - she claimed before this seer test happened, and that claim would make sense with her targeting Grek N2 after Grek's post about the spies (to see if Grek was one of the coordinators)
PartyOfRouges, on the other hand, has no claim and so far hasn't even shown up to defend themselves.
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2020-01-03, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2020-01-03, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
There's a reason JeenLeen is the second pick, including that PartyofRogues voted for them. But they did target Grek, so they're still on the list as the second pick.
Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2020-01-03 at 07:53 PM.
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2020-01-04, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
We've skipped the end of day again? Or did I miscalculate?
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2020-01-04, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
And that's what I get for sleeping 13 hours, instead of 15 minutes. Oh well.
End Day 4.
I knoweverythingwho to lynch, cried someone. It's one of these two people! I guess it couldn't hurt to blindly go along with it, was the consensus. PartyOfRouges was unanimously lynched.
PartyOfRouges was killed. They were an American Spy.
Begin Night 4.Last edited by Caerulea; 2020-01-05 at 11:43 PM.
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2020-01-04, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Okay... unless the American spy network has a kill power (psychologist, you got any idea), it looks like I'm in trouble in the Day.
So I'm in a neat pickle. Since I'm on the docket to be lynched tomorrow, I figure I should go ahead and ask a couple question in hopes the medic or psychologist exonerate me.
Psychologist, can you scry me and report my results?
Medic, did you protect Xihirli Night 1?
I was told I'm the Chinese counter-intelligence agent and I can scry to see if I find the American or Soviet coordinators. My win condition is that they die before I do; I can win even if I die, as long as I die last of the three of us.
Night 1 I scried Xihirli and was told she did not lead spies.
Night 2 I scried Grek and was told she did not lead spies. She also died that night.
Night 3 I scried Erin666 and was told she did not lead spies. She also died that night.
C'nor is the hacker or someone with an equivalent power, as she knows I targeted Grek Night 2. But maybe I am the madman but don't know it.
If the medic did not protect Xihirli, or if the psychologist sees I can't kill, then I am NOT the madman and lynching me will waste the town's action. If otherwise, then I guess I am the madman.
Similar: Hacker, or anyone else with a similar power, if you can track who I target tonight, that could also help determine status. I am going to scry someone. If you see who I targeted and if they die tonight, well, I can take it as a coincidence that the madman killed who I scried twice, but thrice seems too unlikely.
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What makes you think the Americans had the ability to kill Grek?
I'd like that to be true, as it removes me as the obvious lynch candidate for tomorrow, but I wonder why you think they can kill.
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2020-01-04, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
To be fair, two-three more hours of sleep and it would be kind of balanced.
Because, firstly I'm assuming at least one townie has a kill power because I don't think wolves would have killed Caerulea. With that said, I'm convinced that Grek's informant was Gac3 (I think it was confirmed but I can't recall the words) and that the informant killed Grek. We know that Gac3 was american like Rogues and that Rogues was potentially involved in Grek's death.
Part of the reason I went along with C'nor's claim without being fully convinced was that Rogues voted at the last second against you, which makes me think they were trying to protect Gac3, additionally. But this isn't a factor for the matter if the americans have or not a kill power.
Last thing, if we got two factions that must kill each other I feel like it stands to reason that they would have a kill power. Of course I believe that the russians too have it.
And I do believe you to be innocent. Well, sort of. But I also think you bring really bad luck.
EDIT: I should say I believe at least one non-wolf has a kill power instead of at least one townie. I don't actually know if americans/russians are town or not. Since you are a neutral it stands to reason they'd be too, though.Last edited by Valmark; 2020-01-04 at 04:51 PM.
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2020-01-04, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I can't see who people target, only who targeted someone. I can see if someone I target targets someone, but I get no information about their target. Misunderstanding that was why I waited to suggest we lynch someone based on this information - I was going to scry you both and see who, if anyone, tracked with the NK again.
Edit: That said, if you want to PM me your target for tonight, and I don't just get straight-up murdered by the wolves tonight, I can check them. (PM because otherwise the wolves are just gonna kill them to get you lynched.)
Edit the second: The medic can't exonerate you. They're out of the game.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2020-01-04 at 05:35 PM.
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2020-01-04, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-04, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-04, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Caerulea; 2020-01-04 at 07:47 PM.
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2020-01-04, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Uhm. I thought the medic stopped the kills and the baner stopped a wolf from killing?
Anyway, with this being a bastard game, you don't really know if there are other people with the same power or not, no?
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2020-01-04, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
...I somehow thought the baner was dead, based on how people had been talking about the cook. That's. Good for town, but also now I feel kind of dumb.
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2020-01-04, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
With the hacker's role description, it seems implied that at least two people (the hacker and someone else) have an ability to see if someone is targeted/who someone targets.
With that precedent, it's certainly possible there's two baners or someone with an ability sorta like a baner's (as well as the true baner, the medic).
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2020-01-05, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
So, possibilities: C’nor is the lying madman.
C’nor is a Russian spy lying to get an American lynched.
C’nor is telling the truth, and JeenLeen, the madman, killed Grek.
C’nor is telling the truth, and PartyOfRouges, an American spy and nightkiller, killed Grek.
Of those I very much support the fourth, which makes the most sense. If C'nor is lying, she got very lucky guessing that JeenLeen also targeted Grek (as she admitted) or she's working with JeenLeen, which as far as I know JeenLeen had no reason to know. Or alternatively she's telling the truth but "conveniently forgetting" to mention she's also a Russian spy, if they have equivalent powers (seems likely, at this point).
There's a chance JeenLeen could be the madman, but I just don't think it's very likely. That would mean PartyOfRouges targeted Grek for some different reason, and I can't see what that reason would be.
So that means the madman didn't kill anyone on Night Two (or anyone other than the narrator on Night One)… why? Does the madman not know they're the madman? Or do they not have a nightkill? (And who killed Erin666, if not the madman?)
...yup, I'm confused again.Last edited by Snowblaze; 2020-01-05 at 09:02 AM.
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2020-01-05, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
What if we're all the madman, and the game only ends when we're all dead?
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2020-01-05, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Optimally, you all should lynch me if JeenLeen isn't a wolf. This is awkward, since I know I'm not one, but nevertheless true.
Incidentally, this means that I'm safe tonight, because if JeenLeen is the wolf, killing me outs them for sure by revealing my role, and if the wolf isn't JeenLeen, they get me for free after we lynch JeenLeen. This means that the medic should target someone else, even though I might be a town power role.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2020-01-05 at 11:45 PM.
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2020-01-06, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
End Night 4.
There are not many people left. The madman is still alive. When you awake, you find one of your own has been brutally stabbed to death. BasketOfPuppies was killed. They were a Russian Spy.
Begin Day 5.Non caerulea sum, Caerulea nomen meum est.
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2020-01-06, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Today's news: JeenLeen is not a wolf - or at least cannot be determined to be a wolf by me; this doesn't actually clear them -, and I am utterly useless. That will be all for today.