You just gained a level in real life: 2020 edition!

[Troacctid]

Anarchomancer lets you spend xp to take the form of a completely new, rebuilt character. You can reverse the effect at any time. It's pretty powerful.

Hey, that's also another way to become an elan, isn't it? There you are, whoever asked about that, more options.

[Kalkra]

Anarchomancer lets you spend xp to take the form of a completely new, rebuilt character. You can reverse the effect at any time. It's pretty powerful.

Hey, that's also another way to become an elan, isn't it? There you are, whoever asked about that, more options.

My bad, I was looking at Arachnomancer. Dang, Anarchomancer 's good, although it is a (Su) ability, so if you use it to become an Elan, live 200 years, and then enter an AMF, some would claim that you immediately die of old age (I personally would think that aging is suspended when you're in a different body). Unless you say the ability has an instantaneous duration, which it might.

Also, with regards to the whole "only level up at the beginning of the year" thing, if you lose levels, you can get them back immediately, right?

And speaking of changing you race, if you get some RHD or something somehow, does that count?

[Troacctid]

Also, with regards to the whole "only level up at the beginning of the year" thing, if you lose levels, you can get them back immediately, right?

You don't have this information when making your decisions.

And speaking of changing you race, if you get some RHD or something somehow, does that count?

Count as what?

[Kalkra]

Count as what?

Count as leveling up. i.e. if I Wish myself into a giant dragon, do I get all of its RHD, or do I need to wait that many years, or what?

[VoltsofEight]

Sage again

[Troacctid]

Count as leveling up. i.e. if I Wish myself into a giant dragon, do I get all of its RHD, or do I need to wait that many years, or what?

You don't have this information when making your decisions.

[Endarire]

Troacctid: Are you implying you're GMing for all these characters?

[Ruethgar]

Spoiler: Pathfinder

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Pathfinder 3PP
Human(Azlanti): Ranger 2( Dual Sphere Spellsinger replacing Scout and Woodland Spellcaster)

Str 11
Dex 14
Con 12
Int 13
Wis 17
Cha 10

Major Drawback: Spell Vulnerability(Enchantment)
Major Drawback: Nearsighted
Drawback: Umbral Unmasking
Drawback: Fey-Taken
Trait: Unorthodox Casting(Spellsinger:Wis)
Trait: Natural Ritualist
Trait: Feral Speech(Druidic)
Trait: Holy Tattoo
Flaw: Spell Dabbler
Flaw: Spell Adept
First: Adept Progression(SoC)
Human: Cantrips
Retrain: Spellcrafting

Prime Creator Unified Tradition
Alchemy(Panacea)
Traps
Trapsmith
Spell Trap
Creation: Practiced Creation

Salve

Focus Casting(Holy Symbol), Witchmarked, Rigorous Concentration, Mental Focus, Extended Casting, Somatic Casting, Easy Focus

Sphere Talents
Nature(Plant): Grow Plants
Weather
Severe Weather

Spoiler: 3PP

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Endless Human
Human Paragon 1

Str 8
Dex 10
Con 11
Int 15
Wis 11
Cha 12

Flaw: Murky Eyed: Laborious Training
Flaw: Noncombatant: Discipline
First: University Education
Taint: Skill Focus(Know:Arcana), Skill Focus(Concentration)
Dendar: Sculpt Self(All Sanctum Cantrips at will, significant array of low level spells to Druidic taste plus Legendary skill bonus to Know:Arc, Conc, Spellcraft)

Lucid Ritually Evil.

Spoiler: D&D 3.5: Continuation

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Endless Kobold
Human Paragon 1/Sorcerer 3

Str 10
Dex 16
Con 17
Int 10
Wis 10
Cha 21

Flaw: Murky Eyed: Able Learner
Flaw: Noncombatant: Magical Affinity(None because I was stupid)
First: Human Heritage
Dendar: Dragonwrought
Third: Sculpt Self
Lucid Shuffle Racial during retrain: Dragon Wings, Dragon Tail

Rebuild to Sorcerer from Bloodline. Retrain to Stalwart Battle. As a True dragon, add idealized Black Dragonspawn Abomination to myself(5 sorc Dex and Con).

[SirNibbles]

Correct, so you would need something on the scale of *checks notes* an ancient mystical portal with legendary transformative properties, or an interdimensional rift where the universal forces of creation and destruction converge.

If we assume that magic exists in this world, then there are definitely magical locations that would serve as places to complete quests. Either way, the Rebuilding section makes no mention of needing a magical location for a rebuilding quest, especially for a level 1-3 quest:

"To accomplish a character rebuild, your PC must complete a significant and challenging quest." - Player's Handbook II, page 196

"As long as the changes don't significantly disrupt the game, though, players should play characters that they find enjoyable, and if swapping out a couple of class levels accomplishes that goal, then doing so is well worth the effort." - Player's Handbook II, pages 197-198

The locations you mentioned were examples for "making these locations serve particular needs that suit their ambiance", i.e. to fit the idea of whatever class you're changing to or altering in some way. (Player's Handbook II, page 199) I doubt you really need a big golden light to go from being a scholar to being a warrior of nature.

Who knows, maybe the quest I completed wasn't enough to rebuild, and maybe there's still something I need to do. But I think there's a way in this world to do it.

[Jopustopin]

Jopustopin has had a crazy year. What with his sudden crazy good acrobatic abilities and his Otherwordly Countenance he quickly rose to stardom and by December was putting out his first blockbuster movie, Scorcher VII. Voted sexiest man in People's magazine, Jopustopin has put his sudden abilities to good use.

Still, Jopustopin has crazy weird dreams, and has knowledge that he shouldn't have (nor should any man). Occasionally he roams famous libraries trying to discern what this knowledge is...

Then suddenly, Jopustopin gains a level! It's in Warblade and his stunt man abilities get even better...

Spoiler: Character Sheet

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Jopustopin

male middle aged human warblade 2 CN medium humanoid (human) Init -8; Senses spot +1, listen +1 Languages Common, Ancient Suloise AC 11 (+4 armor, -2 Dex, -1 Flaw), Touch 7, Flat-footed 11; Uncanny Dodge HP 16/16 (2d12-2) Fort +3, Ref -2, Will +1 Speed 30 ft. Melee longsword +1 (1d8-1/19-20) Ranged dagger +0 (1d4-1/19-20) Base Atk +2; Grp +1 Maneuvers and Stances Known (IL 2nd): Stances-Bolstering Voice Strikes-Wolf Fang Strike, Stone Bones Boosts-Sudden Leap Counters-Moment of Perfect Mind Abilities Str 9, Dex 7, Con 8, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 16 Skills Spellcraft +8, Concentration +4, Jump +4, Tumble +3, Balance +3, Knowledge (History) +2, Knowledge (Local) +2, Knowledge (The Planes) +4, Martial Lore +2, Profession (Actor) +4 Skill Points Spellcraft 5, Concentration 5, Jump 5, Tumble 5, Balance 5, Knowledge (History) 1, Knowledge (Local) 1, Knowledge (the planes) 1, Martial Lore 1, Profession (Actor) 1 Feats Keeper of Forbidden Lore, Otherwordly Countenance (Beauty), Great Fortitude Flaws Unreactive, Vulnerable Possessions trusty longsword, dagger, chain shirt, Net Worth ($135,000.00 USA)

[Jack_Simth]

Still going Oracle.

[Quertus]

Pathfinder allows players to retrain class levels. 3.5 does not, except by visiting special magical locations that probably don't exist on this planet.

The PHB II specifically says that the two rebuild quest are just examples, and the DM can make campaign appropriate rebuild quests based on the examples given.

Correct, so you would need something on the scale of *checks notes* an ancient mystical portal with legendary transformative properties, or an interdimensional rift where the universal forces of creation and destruction converge.

Or take the anarchomancer prestige class, I guess.

Isn't there both the option for "rebuild quest" and "retraining" in 3e? Unless this is just my senility talking again.

Oh, hey, look, I actually found my PH2. Looks like it has both… but, for the most part, only rebuild quests can change your class. And they can also change your race. So Elan (maybe).

Also, I'm not exactly planning on staying on this planet, but, even so, there's things more wondrous than that in the raw creation & destruction of Dream… and I'd imagine that the Birthplace of Universes (D&D/Paizo HQ, or even Hollywood) could (over)qualify. Also, Ed Greenwood's house.

It is possible, yes, following the guidelines laid out in the core rules. Specific spells may or may not work.

That's fair. My goal is to use a variety of spells to test out the nature of reality.

...Yes.

Clearly, once we gain sufficient power, we need to storm Paizo/WotC headquarters, and Mindrape / Diplomacy (aka "Mindrape") some custom publications.

[Troacctid]

If we assume that magic exists in this world, then there are definitely magical locations that would serve as places to complete quests. Either way, the Rebuilding section makes no mention of needing a magical location for a rebuilding quest, especially for a level 1-3 quest:

"To accomplish a character rebuild, your PC must complete a significant and challenging quest." - Player's Handbook II, page 196

"As long as the changes don't significantly disrupt the game, though, players should play characters that they find enjoyable, and if swapping out a couple of class levels accomplishes that goal, then doing so is well worth the effort." - Player's Handbook II, pages 197-198

The locations you mentioned were examples for "making these locations serve particular needs that suit their ambiance", i.e. to fit the idea of whatever class you're changing to or altering in some way. (Player's Handbook II, page 199) I doubt you really need a big golden light to go from being a scholar to being a warrior of nature.

Who knows, maybe the quest I completed wasn't enough to rebuild, and maybe there's still something I need to do. But I think there's a way in this world to do it.

It's possible that such things exist, but you probably wouldn't know whether they do or, if they do, where they would be. Not without divination magic or a reasonably high Knowledge DC, at least.

[Kalkra]

a reasonably high Knowledge DC, at least.

You say DC, I say how high? Because Wieldskill and Skillful Moment are first level spells, and skill-boosting items are cheap.

[Maat Mons]

Put me down for +1 of my current class for both my 3.5 and Pathfinder selves.

[DungeonUsurper]

I have always wanted to do this, and after being primarily a lurker for over the first 4 years, I'm finally just going to do it, instead of saying "Man, wish I had done this last year..." So here it goes-

Seeing as how I wouldn't know if this was to ever happen again I wouldn't go the tier 1 Wizard route, instead making use of this crazy spontaneous power up to garner as much as I could right away. The way to do that in this world of business, politics and mass communications is by far and away utilizing some crazy social shenanigans, so that is the direction that I would start off towards, with a little bit of magic sprinkled in.

Firstly I take the elite array and Unsheltered Variant. This gives me the scores of

Str: 11
Dex: 8
Con: 10
Int: 12
Wis: 9
Cha: 15

I take 2 Flaws- Inatentive and Slow.
This nets me a -4 on my Listen and Spot checks and a Base speed of 15'.

This then gives me access to 3 Feats, so I take Spawn of the Dark Prince (15 Cha req.), Nymphs Kiss & Persuasive.
This gets me +2 on all Cha based checks, +1 vs Spells & Spell-Like-Abilities, +2 on Bluff & Intimidate and with an action an additional +10 on Bluff that lasts 2 minutes. I also get an additional -2 to Spot.

As for my actual class, I dug deep and went with Warlock (my favorite 3.5 class).

My HP would become 6, so I would be 1.5x as hale as common people, which I am good with.
I'd end up with BAB +0, Fort +0, Ref -1 & Will +1. Not the most amazing, but I'm not aiming for martial or mental prowess.

For Skills I would go with +4 to Bluff, +1 to Intimidate and use the remaining 8 points on Speak language, getting 4 more languages.

My Invocation of choice would be Beguiling Influence, giving me another innate bonus to Bluff, Diplomacy and Intimidate at +6/

For these Languages I would Start with English (My regions common), Spanish (for my Int. bonus) and Mandarin Chinese, Hindustani, Russian and Japanese. These give me a relatively good chance to be understood almost anywhere I go.

This build garners me a +10 to Diplomacy, +12 to Intimidate and +12 to Bluff at a moments notice, but with 6 seconds to prepare my Bluff jumps to +22. I do take a -4 to Listen and a -6 to Spot, but the rewards far outweigh the risks.

I would now be able to bluff, cajole and intimidate my way into and out of just about any situation, traveling the world. Getting rich would be quick, easy and most likely fun. I could run scams, plain old ask people for cash and favors, or even eventually start up my own cult with this sort of silver tongue. If there was any sort of legal trouble, which is unlikely with liberal use of "Hey, you don't want to make a big deal out of this- trust me." in any such tone as I pleased, and most likely talk my out of any convictions if they did happen. And to top all of this crazy off I can shoot untraceable bolts of magic to defend myself in the most dire of cases (which would only help solidify the whole cult angle). All in all one heck of a way to start a new year.

Sorry this post is crazy stupid long. I got really into it.

[Quertus]

For these Languages I would Start with English (My regions common), Spanish (for my Int. bonus) and Mandarin Chinese, Hindustani, Russian and Japanese. These give me a relatively good chance to be understood almost anywhere I go.

You get everything you know (including, presumably, English) for free. It just doesn't show up on your character sheet.

[Kalkra]

I'd swap out Persuasive for Hidden Talent (Conceal Thoughts), or ideally Sculpt Self, because every build is improved by the addition of Sculpt Self, especially skill-focuses builds. I mean, it's not like you were gonna be doing anything else with your xp.

[MultitudeMan]

Another level of Cloistered Cleric for me! Looking forward to level 2 spells next year!

[Coventry]

A new year, a new level!

Yea! One more level in Pathfinder Summoner (Synthesist 4), please!

New spells: Haste, Invisibility
Stat Boost: Charisma

[Elvensilver]

Second level Bard (Pathfinder) for me!
Now getting a lot of skill points and… (drum roll) versatile Performance!

[Celestia]

If I remember correctly, I'm Bard 1/Warlock 2. I guess I'll just tack on another Bard level. Inspire Competence will probably be helpful when I get it next year.

[Quertus]

I'd swap out Persuasive for Hidden Talent (Conceal Thoughts), or ideally Sculpt Self, because every build is improved by the addition of Sculpt Self, especially skill-focuses builds. I mean, it's not like you were gonna be doing anything else with your xp.

The few, the proud, the mutinate. Welcome to the team!

[Vizzerdrix]

I'd swap out Persuasive for Hidden Talent (Conceal Thoughts), or ideally Sculpt Self, because every build is improved by the addition of Sculpt Self, especially skill-focuses builds. I mean, it's not like you were gonna be doing anything else with your xp.

Where is Sculpt Self from? My google-fu is weak today.

[StSword]

Where is Sculpt Self from? My google-fu is weak today.

Multiple places actually.

It was started in Oathbound Seven third party setting for 3x and later Pathfinder, it's a high powered setting where a god bound locally leaves stray magic in the area allowing people to mutate themselves, so it's a place where Spider-Orc can do whatever a spider can, or you can run into an Elf with claws and fangs.

The version most people are referring to is an adaptation of that feat in Dragon magazine, since it leaves it open for people to enchant themselves as magic items, so any ability one could put in a magic item is up for grabs.

[Troacctid]

It's actually OGL, so you can see the article online for free. Here you go: https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Publicatio...Prestige_Races

[Karmea]

Archivist 5.

There's another way to change race btw. Shaper of Form's Modify Self (Renaissance) from Dragon Magazine Compendium, although it's 0 LA and within type only.

[Jack_Simth]

Still going Oracle.

... and between my real-life savings, snagging a few of the rewards for proof of the supernatural (while disguised!!), and savings via things like Dream Feast to avoid the need to eat, I've got seed money for crafting. A Greater Hat of Disguise makes hiding who I am very easy (and doesn't have the interaction save that a regular Hat of Disguise does), and there's a lot of sports folks who'd pay big bucks for things like a Belt of Physical Might (and do note that strength changes are VERY verifiable). Worried about testing? Just don't wear the belt for an hour before you take the test. It's not chemical, even the lingering aura of the underlying spells will have gone away by that time, and so there should be no traces of any kind in the body at that point.

[Eldest]

In pathfinder? Continue the bard streak. Bard 4, granting me that all crucial second level slot. Suggestion and something else (Gallant Inspiration, maybe?) would be the picks.

For 3.5, retrain the one errant bard level to factotum, if possible, and take another in factotum. Gets me int to several things, a second spell, but no level 2 spells yet. Next year, dammit.

[digiman619]

At this point, I'm Monk [Beastsoul Monk (the Spheres of Power archetype) | Monk of the Four Winds] I've got some cool shapeshifting powers and will become immortal in another 15 years/levels.