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2007-10-29, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
Something that's been eating at me this afternoon...
A lot of folks (me included) have presumed that Haley and Belkar are going to be found to have been captured by Team Evil, and (also me included) that might offer his services in exchange for Mark of Justice removal.
This would leave at the tender mercies of . Now for the dark speculation...what if this results in her suffering some sort of psychotic break with her borderline personalities (as seen in her can't-speak-straight episode)...which results in taking over? And offering to work for ???
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2007-10-29, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-29, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-29, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
i think belkar may be caught, maybe (though not so much caught as "being conveniently drawn to an area where he can cause slaughter and mayhem on a grander scale"). but haley? never, she's just too smart to stay caught even if she is they somehow manage to catch her.
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2007-10-29, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
Er...your point?
And might decide that "working with him is icky and awful, but might keep me/us alive...after all, I'm not worth anything anyway".
Not that I expect this to happen - or want it to, being a fan of - but like the it chewed its way out.
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2007-10-29, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
I dpn't think she would end up working for Team Evil. Here is my speculation.
However, I think will get captured and, under a hellish coctail of magic and torture (physical and mental) by will give away many secrets about her friends, which will result in some disaster for Elan-Durkon-Vassaurius (sp?) or AC forces, about which would make sure to notify her. That will lead to her nervous breakdown.
Then, she somehow ends up rescued, rejoins the OotS, but there will be very uncomfortable atmosphere: she believes that she betrayed them (by giving away info). Elan, shaken by Haley's despair, believes that they betrayed her (by abandoning her). Even though neither side was really at fault.
However, my prediction, if followed to the letter, is very, verry dark...
As for Belkar, I expect him to go down taking a lot of hobos with him once they attempt to arrest him (possibly due to MoJ). He will be rezzed along with Roy.Last edited by NikkTheTrick; 2007-10-29 at 10:27 PM.
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2007-10-29, 10:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-29, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Argentina
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2007-10-30, 12:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
SpoilerHmm... Haley and Belkar get captured. Now that does fit ideas of mine, that all of the party will be in trouble and Roy will be coming to their rescue. So that will work with Haley & Belkar being prisoners.
But no, I doubt Haley will break and start spilling secrets. For one thing, she doesn't really know any of interest to Redcloak. Xykon & Redcloak want to know about the next gate, and she has only a vague idea about where it is. They likely know more than she does. About all she can tell them is that the paladins don't know anything, which would merely mean they lose interest in the city and sail away.
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2007-10-30, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
As Belkar said before, Durkon is a good-hearted sucker who would resurrect him. Vaarsuvius did not argue against that point.
Haley knows that they know that Xylon will attack Gillard's gate first since that's what the oracle said. That is a very important piece of information.
Haley also knows about situation with Saphire Guard -- Asurian Nobles conflict, which Redcloak will really want to know about so that he can complete annihilation of order. Death of the last Saphire Guard paladins will certianly be pleasant for him.
OOtS is the strongest group opposing Redcloak and Xylon. Redcloak will certainly want to interrogate Haley given the chance. And I doubt he will be too gentle in the process... Besides, interrogating captured enemies for every possible piece of information is always a good idea. In worst case, they will die without telling anything useful. For an evil character that would be just a fun experience.Last edited by NikkTheTrick; 2007-10-30 at 01:09 AM.
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2007-10-30, 08:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
There's a possible fly in that ointment.
SpoilerRoy's question, designed to avoid a repeat of the Oracle's...overly precise...previousl answer, was would pass with in (1000 yards?) of which gate. It's entirely possible that he'd pass within that radius of Girard's Gate on the way to the other one (Serini's, IIRC)...maybe even on purpose, if he knows the Order is expecting him at Girard's.
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2007-10-30, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
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2007-10-30, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
But I doubt they'll give up on it easily. In fact, I suspect it will be destroyed, resulting in a final battle at the last gate (filled with toughest monsters) where everything will be at stake.
And I doubt they would pass accidentially: the gate is located in desert on another continent. Someone coming within 1 kilometer will be looking for the gate.Last edited by NikkTheTrick; 2007-10-30 at 09:43 AM.
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2007-10-30, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
It isn't like Redcloak would even need to interrogate Haley. It would be easier to kill her, then Speak With Dead.
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2007-10-30, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
I think maybe they pretend that they join to Xykon becuase they know they not have a chance to survive alone, if it true so the question is what did they do with Roy's body?
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2007-10-30, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
But the lich doesn't care if they know it.
Redcloak is not the boss here. Apparently he has convinced Xykon to kick back awhile until he can do some research, but the plan is to leave the city and soon. Redcloak is not going to get the time off to chase down the last of the paladins.
Now one piece of information he might want is that the humans have a lot of ships, and the lich will want to take his army with him. So that information could have consequences.
And Xykon's reaction is likely to be "Who?", followed by a yawn. He just does not consider the OOTS a threat, with pretty good reason.
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2007-10-30, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
I think you're all giving way to much credit to how much of a damn Xykon gives about the OOTS.
He can't even remember Roy's name. Why would he bother torturing some redhead he found in his city? He'd just zap her and be done with it. Same goes for Belkar, he probably thinks halflings are icky or something. He'd just off them and move on. They don't know anything he needs to know and don't really offer anything he needs either.
I mean, sure, Belkar takes down tons of hobgobs, but Xykon took down tons of paladins and ghost-martyrs. He dosn't need extra muscle.
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2007-10-30, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
Xylon might not give a damn, but Redcloak does. After the near death experience and being saved by Miko, he will make sure they are well prepared for the next gate. Redcloak's proclaimed goal is obtaining information. Interrogating a powerful adventurer would not be a waste of time in his pursuit.
Xylon may be the leader, but Redcloak is the brain.
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2007-10-30, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-10-30, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
Good point.
Predictions (Not necessarily for Strip# 500):
Belkar will not join Xykon for fear of becoming an NPC.
Haley will multiclass.
Roy will be rezzed, and lower level.
Elan will use more Monkey Island Swordfighting Insults (I've Got A Tip For You, Get My Point?)
V will have nothing quite significant in the near future, unless she dies.
Durkon will have an anxiety attack about wood, particularly, The Junk.
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2007-10-30, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Possible - DARK - scenario? (Possible spoilers!)
I doubt Haley would multiclass. Who would she multiclass into? a fighter? one level won't make a difference. if anything, she needs to be a better rouge for hiding.
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