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    Nameless: Will there be pineapples in the next few issues?

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    What about robot pickals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechafox View Post
    Nameless: Will there be pineapples in the next few issues?

    Lying: Well, not anymore.
    I've said it before I'll say it many more times: If someone guesses what's going to happen next, I'm not going to change my story because of it. I've certainly spent too much time making the plot for it to be whitewashed by a lucky guess

    And now for some inane fun:

    By the time the group escapes the city, at least one of them will have been captured, killed, etc. See if you can guess which one(s) and how!
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    Lex...crushed by a piece of building, emerging mildly hurt, then crushed again, and again until dead...and saying "I'm OK!" "I'm still OK" ..."OK, now I am hurt...but still alive" "k, now I think I am half past dead...help me?"

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    Flippin' sweet. Love this comic.

    I can only assume that as Mr Lying's love interest (see page 8, last panel, Igon's expression), it is Rain's plot-given duty to be tortured and/or slaughtered in a most horrible fashion, while our hero is forced to watch.

    And on that cheerful note, I can't wait for more!
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    I'm not even going to touch Miko; that way lies madness.
    : Madness? This is MIKO!!


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    I won't comment on their accuracy, but you're certainly disturbingly creative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon View Post
    I won't comment on their accuracy, but you're certainly disturbingly creative
    Well... since using the death of a loved one as motivation for a character is one of the oldest (if undoubtedly effective) tricks in the writer's repetoire, technically I'm disturbingly uncreative.

    Most fiction works that way. If you really need a character to go do something that they really don't have any motivation to do, you threaten a loved one. With torture and/or death in the case of a male loved one; rape, toture, and/or death for a female loved one.

    I, however, hold out hope that you will not sink to using such tactics. Can't wait for more.
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    : Madness? This is MIKO!!


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    oooer, so the dwarf isn't tall, everyone is just short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickvoid View Post
    Most fiction works that way. If you really need a character to go do something that they really don't have any motivation to do, you threaten a loved one. With torture and/or death in the case of a male loved one; rape, toture, and/or death for a female loved one.

    I, however, hold out hope that you will not sink to using such tactics. Can't wait for more.
    I guarantee, I will not be going the way of "Hold loved one X in bad situation Y to illicit response Z from hero A". I'm intending for this tale to use as few cliches as possible.

    For example, let's look at Lex's recent betrayal.
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    He starts out appearing as someone connected with the group through a relationship with one of their fathers (Hugo Lawrence), who isn't on good terms with his daughter (Steph).
    Because of his position he attends the meeting between Nimhelvin, the diplomat and representative for the Moon Elf Empire, and Councilman Lawrence, one of the leaders of Arcania. Here, he hears about what will happen to Arcania if they resist the Empire's advances. He gets scared, and is horrified by the prospect of his entire culture and civilisation seeming to have never existed in all but the span of a generation. He certainly doesn't want to betray Arcania and his friends, but he will do anything to ensure that Arcania lives on in some way, shape, or form for future generations.
    So, he starts working his way into a new position, as a new friend of the group. Here, he can work his whiles to learning new information. Igon and Rain are both children of two other Councilmen (Haizea Minoblendy and Arthur Morgan, respectively). A few failed saving throws over the course of weeks and he's got the information he needs sneaked out of their skulls.
    That gives him the means to enact his plan. He opens the gate into the city. With the shield up, that's completely worthless, but the fact that someone did it is cause enough for concern and a meeting is called of the Council. This gets him a reason to be in city hall.
    From there, he dons his Robe of Blending and his Mask of Lies (I changed the fluff description to a bandana over the mouth and nose because the original was, well, hideous) and sneaks through the building to it's core and the city's shield generator. He doesn't want to turn it off, because that leaves way for the Council to turn it back on, so instead he destroys it completely.

    Now, throughout all of this, Lex has had to make sacrifices. He's kept secrets of untold magnitude from his new friends, and he's ensured that their final few days in Arcania (And, possible, final few days, period) are good and merry. He genuinely doesn't want to see anyone die, but he knows it's something he can't avoid to save his culture.


    So, Lex isn't your typical "Friend turned traitor" character. He really wants to be friends with the group, even though he had to use them to bring ruin to Arcania. He's not a full-blown traitor to the nation, because he's doing what he believes is the best option left to them, even though it results in their effective annihilation.

    Don't worry, we can still hate his guts.

    @V Yes, yes I am
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    You ARE aware that saying that is also a clich right?


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    That's nice, but will we hate your's by the end of this? obviously the protaganist should be someone the audience identifies with? but how are you going to pull that off, What character dies, are you going to let them? who's going to kill lex? why am I asking so many inane unrelated questions?

    Hmm, lets take a moment to check for plot holes.
    Lex wants to save some scrap of his culture, so is his alliance with Sildyu a means of placing some of his culture into the moon elf empire or self preservation?
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    That's nice, but will we hate your's by the end of this?
    Elaborate. Hate my what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman42666 View Post
    obviously the protaganist should be someone the audience identifies with?
    I'm hoping that's a short list, I'd hate to think the entire audience is from a civilisation erased from the annals of history and of which they are the near-sole survivor.
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    What character dies, are you going to let them?
    Wait 5 pages
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    who's going to kill lex?
    Wait a heck of a lot more pages
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    why am I asking so many inane unrelated questions?
    Perhaps you were abused as a child, resulting in localised brain damage?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman42666 View Post
    Lex wants to save some scrap of his culture, so is his alliance with Sildyu a means of placing some of his culture into the moon elf empire or self preservation?
    You'll just have to wait and see, but odds say more the former than the latter

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    Okay. While your answers were staisfactory and insightful, I believe I shall write [/joke] at the end of all posts meant in a mostly jokelike manner from now on.

    Also is it sad of me that, despite an exam tomorrow of mythical proprtion (about 30 minutes) I'm more concered about returning home to see if Remember and Failing saves have updated
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    "and now for something totaly different"
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    Anyone think they knew that Skyrider?

    I don't consider it sad at all Wolfman, it's actually quite flattering
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    Anyone think they knew that Skyrider?

    I don't consider it sad at all Wolfman, it's actually quite flattering
    Is it.... The Wizard?????????
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    No, it's not The Wizard. Nor is it The Wizard That Did It

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    nothing to eat here....chomp

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    Okay, remember how I had to split page 10 into two pieces? Well, page 16 is shaping up to have 11 frames, so it's getting split up as well. I may or may not have both parts ready for Thursday, but page 17 will be released on schedule on Monday, after part 2 of page 16.

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    Update! Part 1 of Page 16 will definitely be ready by Thursday, and since I'm saying that on Tuesday, odds are good the whole thing will be done by then as well.

    Update! I've managed to finish both parts! That means that both will be up, on Thursday, on time. I hope you can stand the suspense, because I certainly enjoyed writing every word of it
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    Alright, I admit I can't keep something this good under my hat for another 11 hours, so enjoy and keep in mind there's nothing else coming until Monday

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    That's kinda ironic. I mean, him talking about winning. Well, awesome comic as usual. I'm not sure if I get the clothes... is that the alternate Lyingbedmon's thing, from Tajira?

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    I like this, it has drama, love, betrayel, death...what more can you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshi927 View Post
    I'm not sure if I get the clothes... is that the alternate Lyingbedmon's thing, from Tajira?
    Ins' disguise getup from Tajira is indeed the original Mask of Lies and Robe of Blending that Igon just took from Lex, yes.
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    I like this, it has drama, love, betrayel, death...what more can you want?
    Perhaps sharks with lasers on their heads?

    @V That would be ironic, yes
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    Interesting, I believe Igon's actions have just soildfied Lex's loyalty to Sildyu.
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    The next comic features the ground forces, so be ready for some hot Undead on Pericle Soldier & Orc Berserker action!

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    I was bored and nothing was going on around here (As in my place of residence), so I decided to throw this little piece together

    For reference, Grisgol are kinda like Ents. In the same way that a 3-day summit reaching a definite conclusion is fast for an Ent, reaching the same conclusion in 300 years is considered fast for a Grisgol. A popular saying is "By the time a Grisgol has made a decision, his chair has already moved to the door".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon View Post
    I was bored and nothing was going on around here (As in my place of residence), so I decided to throw this little piece together

    For reference, Grisgol are kinda like Ents. In the same way that a 3-day summit reaching a definite conclusion is fast for an Ent, reaching the same conclusion in 300 years is considered fast for a Grisgol. A popular saying is "By the time a Grisgol has made a decision, his chair has already moved to the door".
    Dear gods...why wasnt I born a Half Grisgol? Oh, I know, because if my father was a Grisgol, it would have taken him 300 years to think about whether to wear a condom or not...

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    Dear gods...why wasnt I born a Half Grisgol? Oh, I know, because if my father was a Grisgol, it would have taken him 300 years to think about whether to wear a condom or not...
    I imagine it would be pretty tricky too. A Grisgol is basically a construct powered by the phylactery of a Lich.

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    Both look like Drows to me
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    They both look like moon-elves to me...

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