Arena Tournament, Round 20 finals: BlackMoon vs. Lumi

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Arena Tournament, Round 20: BlackMoon vs. Lumi

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XP Award: 300 XP
GP Award: 300 GP

And
600 GP for first
300 GP for second

All combatants, please roll initiative.

[Morbius]

I will post initiative later

[Bronz]

You might not have to. My init is extremely poor.

Still might buy stuff though. I haven't even updated from last fight.
init - (1d20-5)[5]

[Morbius]

Ok, let's start this
[rol=initiative]1d20+4[/roll] If I woll a one this may be a tie (but I think I would win anyway)

[Morbius]

[roll0] stupid forum roller

[Morbius]

Graaaaaaaa
stupid 60 seconds between post rules

initiative - (1d20+4)[21]

[Morbius]

Lumi 1st to act - round 1

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Lumi will start at B 10 with his hands empty, and tries to cast invisibility caster check - (1d20+1)[15] vs DC 8, if he is able to cast the spell he will move to F6, if he fails he will move to F 10

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location:
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 14, Touch 14, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects:
Spells: 5x 0-level , 5x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:

[Morbius]

Just to have 5 posts in a row... your turn

[Bronz]

Sorry about the wait. I probably made the dumbest purchase ever though heh.

BlackMoon - second in round 1

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Start in Y10 with heavy shield and potion of invisibility in other hand.

Standard: Drink potion of invis
Move: Draw scroll with summon monster and nature's ally on it

Edit: Should have done this earlier, but I just checked your sheet. Where is Amber Amulet of the Vermin located?



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BlackMoon
HP: 9
AC: 18
Current Buffs: Invis 1/30
Current Location: Y10

Spells Memorized

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0-Level
Virtue, Guidance, Guidance

1-Level
Summon Monster I, Conjure Ice Beast I, Summon Monster I(D)

[Morbius]

Hum... didn't anticipate you buying a potion of invisibility... I wonder if you had the same idea as I, should have bough a spider amulet in the end :P, BTW it's on magic item compendium, a pity the scorpion version is banned...

Lumi 1st to act - round 2

Assuming no LoS

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Lumi casts mage armor and draws a bottle of alchemist fire

Your turn.

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location: F6
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 18, Touch 14, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects: 9/10 invisible
Spells: 5x 0-level , 4x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:

[Bronz]

BlackMoon - second in round 2

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5' step to X10.
Begin casting Summon Monster I off of scroll

Edit: Sorry. End Turn.


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BlackMoon
HP: 9
AC: 18
Current Buffs: Invis 2/30
Current Location: X10
Scroll Used: Summon Monster I

Spells Memorized

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0-Level
Virtue, Guidance, Guidance

1-Level
Summon Monster I, Conjure Ice Beast I, Summon Monster I(D)

[Morbius]

We really need a LoS check.. unless you already are invisible

Lumi 1st to act - round 3

Assuming no LoS

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Lumi will double move silently from F6 to N5
hide - (1d20+12)[27]
MS - (1d20+8)[9]

Your turn.

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location: N5
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 18, Touch 14, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects: 8/10 invisible
Spells: 5x 0-level , 4x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:
spot - (1d20+1)[8]
listen - (1d20+1)[2]

[Mavian]

Ref Mav:

@Blackmoon

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No LoS

@Lumi

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You hear casting to the east, but can't see anything

[Bronz]

BlackMoon - second in round 3

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5' step to W10.
End casting off the scroll at beginning of round. I'm unsure on the definition of 1 full round actions but I believe they finish at the beginning of your turn. If that's the case, I'd like to begin casting another Summon Monster I.

The summoned monster is a Fiendish Small Monstrous Spider.. It is summoned on T6 and will move forward until it senses the enemy. (Note this could be it's entire round if he isn't there). If Lumi is sensed before the Spider finishes his first move, it will attempt to web him (rules for web found in link).

If it finds Lumi during it's second move, it will shriek and then move up to him.

Spider's move is 30'. Tremorsense is 60'. It reaches 05 on it's first move and up to I5 on it's second move.

If Necessary
touch attack - (1d20+4)[10]
str check - (1d20-2)[17]
concealment - (1d100)[15] 1-50 hits, used if he is invisible

End turn but we need another LoS I think.


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BlackMoon
HP: 9
AC: 18
Current Buffs: Invis 2/30 Summon Monster I 1/1
Current Location: X10
Scroll Used: Summon Monster I (X2 if possible)
Turn attempts used: 0/6

Spells Memorized

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0-Level
Virtue, Guidance, Guidance

1-Level
Summon Monster I, Conjure Ice Beast I, Summon Monster I(D)

[Morbius]

Lumi 1st to act - round 4

Assuming no LoS

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Lumi will remains at N5 and readies an action to move if he sees any summoned creature (specialy spiders)

Your turn.

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location: N5
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 18, Touch 14, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects: 7/10 invisible
Spells: 5x 0-level , 4x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:

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[Bronz]

I think we definitely need to wait for LoS here.

Also for refs:

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After reading my turn, I see that I did not specify casting the summon monster I off of the scroll currently in hand. That is my intention (and also why it's 1 full round casting time)

I am editing my response here as I do not want to edit above since Morbius just posted himself

[Morbius]

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Forgot to add I am invisible

[Mavian]

@Morbius

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I'm going to back the bus up a little bit.

A spider appears in T6 at the end of Round 3. And it fires a stream of webbing.

Spider Attack: (1d20+3)[14] Not including Range, which would give away Lumi's position to Blackmoon, so I'll calculate it after I see what the roll is.

@Morbius

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The spider misses. You also hear spellcasting to the east

@Bronz

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You don't see anyone get hit by the webbing, although the spider was aiming towards the NWW

[Bronz]

If it's important, the attack bonus is actually +4. And thanks for the refcheck.

[Mavian]

Doh, forgot to take size into the equation, but it doesn't change anything.

[Bronz]

So if that happened at the end of round 3, it would be Lumi's turn at the top of round 4, as his turn was seemingly contingent on no LoS?

[Mavian]

Indeed it is, we had to back this train up a bit.

It is now Lumi's Turn on Round 4

[Morbius]

Oh, and don't forget the concealment miss chance Mavian

Lumi 1st to act - round 4 redone

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Lumi will move to G6 and activate total defense

Your turn.

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location: G4
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 22, Touch 18, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects: 7/10 invisible
Spells: 5x 0-level , 4x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:
listen - (1d20+1)[20]
spot - (1d20+1)[21]

[Mavian]

@Morbius

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A creature with tremorsense automatically senses the location of anything that is in contact with the ground and within range.

No concealment from tremorsense.

[Bronz]

BlackMoon - second in round 3

Spider that I guess you can see disappears. And since you could see that one, you'll definitely see this one. Another spider appears in R6.

@Refs

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BlackMoon: 5' step to V9. Cast Summon Monster I(spider) in R6.

This spider, if possible, will walk in a NWW fashion (3 squares west for every 1 square North. If it senses the opponent, get as close as possible to attack it via web. If not in range to attack, get as close as possible and shriek. I will let the refs roll that.

I am unsure about the rules for full-round casting. When exactly do I finish? Can I act normally this round (though I have used a 5' step?)

Not done





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BlackMoon
HP: 9
AC: 18
Current Buffs: Invis 3/30 Summon Monster I 1/1 Summon Monster I 1/1
Current Location: V9
Scroll Used: Summon Monster I (X2 if possible)
Turn attempts used: 0/6

Spells Memorized

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0-Level
Virtue, Guidance, Guidance

1-Level
Summon Monster I, Conjure Ice Beast I, Summon Monster I(D)

[Morbius]

@Morbius

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No concealment from tremorsense.

Mavian and other refs

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Mavian I really think you are wrong about that and for the next refs that come to check this match I would like to check this


Tremorsense
A creature with tremorsense automatically senses the location of anything that is in contact with the ground and within range. Aquatic creatures with tremorsense can also sense the location of creatures moving through water.

If no straight path exists through the ground from the creature to those that it’s sensing, then the range defines the maximum distance of the shortest indirect path. It must itself be in contact with the ground, and the creatures must be moving.

As long as the other creatures are taking physical actions, including casting spells with somatic components, they’re considered moving; they don’t have to move from place to place for a creature with tremorsense to detect them.

So you can guess what will be Lumi's next action(or what will not be Lumi's next action)

[Morbius]

I still need Mavian or another refs to confirm the above question but assuming it is correct your new spider (I suppose it was summoned now) does not detect Lumi

Lumi 1st to act - round 5

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Lumi stand VERY still at G6 and activates total defense if(and only if)it does not count as a physical action.

Your turn.

Lumi Stats (for refs)

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Location: G4
HP: 11/11
Speed: 30 ft.
AC: 22, Touch 18, Flat-footed 10
Saves: Fortitude +0, Reflex +4, Will +1
Attacks: -1 Longspear (1D8-1), +4 alchemist fire
Held: , 2x invisibility scroll , 4x alchemist fire
Effects: 6/10 invisible
Spells: 5x 0-level , 4x 1st-level, 0x 2nd level
Reactive rolls:
spot - (1d20+1)[8]
listen - (1d20+1)[3]

[Bronz]

It might not sense you right away, but that doesn't mean it WON'T.

We need two rulings, my round and your question, so I definitely want to wait to make my turn.

[Kyeudo]

GM Kyeudo

I am unsure about what's going on, so I won't give an LoS check since I think there is invisibility and tremorsense involved with this, but I'll answer some questions.

@Refs

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I am unsure about the rules for full-round casting. When exactly do I finish? Can I act normally this round (though I have used a 5' step?)

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Full Round Casting means you start one turn, it continues until just before the begining of your next turn, and then you act normaly in that round.

Also, everyone is clear that while tremorsense allows you to know which square a creature is in, it does not allow you to negate cover or concealment, right?

[Bronz]

@Refs

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With my new and confirmed information about full round casting, I'd like to change the spider's action if it has a standard action left when it senses Lumi. I'd like it to attack the SQUARE he is on with his web, thereby clearly noting his location.

If this is not possible, then original actions should suffice.