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2008-03-18, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs. Stonefist
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Kor Battleborn - Bayar
docnessuno - Stonefist
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2008-03-19, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Initiative: (1d20+1)[6]
Lets see if I solved some of my "errors" from the last match.
I buy a sling and bullets. Still thinking if I need anything else...
Edit: you might want to add that bonus to Init from your aggresive trait on your sheet.Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-19 at 03:57 AM.
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2008-03-19, 05:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Sheet updated
Purchase Large Masterwork Greatsword [Feel the pain!]
Initiative - (1d20+2)[12]
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2008-03-19, 05:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Start in B13
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2008-03-19, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
heh, wanted to buy one myself...later. So, continue with your turn...
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2008-03-19, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
your starting position?
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2008-03-19, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Y13 is my start location.
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2008-03-20, 04:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Uff it is the 3rd time i try to post this:
My action:
2x move to M12, drawing my greatsword
Free action:
Scream: Let's see wo hits harder greenskin!
Stats:
Spoiler
HP:17/17 | AC:11 To:8 FF:12 | Fo:5 Re:-1 Wi:5
Position:M12 | Hands:Greatsword | M.Rage:-
DoneLast edited by docnessuno; 2008-03-20 at 04:50 AM.
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2008-03-20, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Kor Battleborn - Round 1
Double-move to O12.
Seems that we switched our starting locations .
Your petty insults will be the end of you. Unlike you, I can defend myself better. Your only advantage is your great anger. Whereas honor is my ally.
done
Stats:
SpoilerHP: 14/14
AC: 15 T: 11 FF:14
Rage: Not activated
Speed: 40Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-20 at 05:11 AM.
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2008-03-20, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
My action:
move to N7
Ready an action
Readied action:
Spoiler
If he comes within 15ft i rage
Stats:
Spoiler
HP:17/17 | AC:11 To:8 FF:12 | Fo:5 Re:-1 Wi:5
Position:N7 | Hands:Greatsword | M.Rage:-
Done
OOC: Didn't you notice? i talk in blue text you do in red.. If SW taught us something is that red guys are the evil ones so are bound to lose!Last edited by docnessuno; 2008-03-20 at 06:05 AM.
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2008-03-20, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
OOC: readying an action to what? Rage? heh, so predictable.
Sling attack you. (yeah, i forgot to mention I have my sling in my hands...)
Attack: (1d20+2)[13]
Damage: (1d4+6)[9]
Then I move to Q15, ending my turn.
Take that swine !
Stats:
SpoilerHP: 14/14
AC: 15 T: 11 FF:14
Rage: Not activated
Speed: 40Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-20 at 06:20 AM.
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2008-03-20, 07:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
hem sorry but i acted thinking you were empy-handed, since neither in your sheet nor in this topic there is a note of any weapon wielded. I'll get a ref
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2008-03-20, 07:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Sry, forgot about it...and why should I note on my sheet what weapon I am wielding ?
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2008-03-20, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Well, for this time i'll live with it, since i saw i just need a 5+ to end this match
Free action:
Rage
Full round action:
Charge to R13 and strike you!
Note: here's why i can charge
Originally Posted by SRD
To_Hit - (1d20+10)[15]
If treath:
Confirm - (1d20+10)[26]
If hits:
Damage - (3d6+10)[23]
If crits add:
Critical - (3d6+10)[22]
Stats:
HP:10/19 | AC:6 To:3 FF:7 | To:7 Re:-1 Wi:7
Position:R13 | Hands:Greatsword | M.Rage: 1/9
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2008-03-20, 07:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Barely enough to hit, but i think that 23 damage means you are down
Last edited by docnessuno; 2008-03-20 at 07:47 AM.
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2008-03-20, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Sorry, you cant charge since the glass impedes your movement...you would pass through a glass panel to reach me. Even with large size...and if you can strike from that place, I get cover (+4 AC).
Edit: and clarify exactly how you are placed on the map, since large shape occupies 4 squares, not 1.
Edit 2: yup, I definately have cover, triple-checked.Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-20 at 08:18 AM.
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2008-03-20, 08:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
I can, and i have already stated why, to charge i need:
To move to the closest square from wich i can attack you (that is R13)
To have al clear path to that space (not to you)
To have LoS (not LoE) to you (i do)
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2008-03-20, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
yes, but I get +4 AC due to cover. Tell me your location on the map. This match is not over.
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2008-03-20, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Also, if i do occupy a 2x2 (don't have mountain rage under me right now so i cannot 2xcheck), i must be in square ranging from R13 to Q12 (this is the closest one from wich i can attack you).
Before tou rise other questions i'll explain why you don't have any cover:
Originally Posted by SRD
Originally Posted by SRD
No lines from that corner pass trought a wall to reach any corner of your square.
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2008-03-20, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
do you have a reach weapon ?
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2008-03-20, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
No, i have REACH, since i'm large
and as clearly stated in my previous post, ranged rules apply when making melee attacks to any non-adjacent target (and you are not adjacent to me). Reach weapons are just an example (the most common case for standard PC)
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2008-03-20, 08:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
will let a high ref rule on that. Either way, it is my fault for not going further from the glass...
Just dont think it should be valid, since half of you is behind a glass panel...
Q12-R13 hmm?
And it says any SQUARE. so the best one would be R13. So cover for me.
Big Creatures and Cover
Any creature with a space larger than 5 feet (1 square) determines cover against melee attacks slightly differently than smaller creatures do. Such a creature can choose any square that it occupies to determine if an opponent has cover against its melee attacks. Similarly, when making a melee attack against such a creature, you can pick any of the squares it occupies to determine if it has cover against you.Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-20 at 08:40 AM.
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2008-03-20, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
missed that part, but it does make no difference.
I still use the ranged rules to determine cover, so i just chose R13 as before and you still have no cover.
Also would you please read what i post?
choose a corner of your squareLast edited by docnessuno; 2008-03-20 at 09:03 AM.
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2008-03-20, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
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2008-03-20, 07:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
High Ref Talic
Originally Posted by SRD, CoverOriginally Posted by SRD, Charge
Kor is in Q15.
Stonefist is large, in N7-O8.
Stonefist attempts to charge. By the rules for charge, he must move directly towards his opponent, in Q15, and must move to the closest space from which he can attack. If this space is occupied, or otherwise blocked, he cannot charge. The closest space to Q15 from N7, moving directly towards his opponent, with 10 foot reach, is O12-P13. This square is completely blocked by glass wall. Thus, charge is not a legal action. At the very least, match will need to be rewinded to the start of Stonefist's action to allow correction of illegal action.
That said, for all opponents, it is imperative to list all important status conditions, as well as objects in hand, at the start of the match. This is especially true in any arena in which you have starting LOS to your opponent. Not announcing it provides an unfair advantage, as you can choose after round 1 what you're using. With your choice of weapons, it would have determined whether you had to use a move action to draw the sling, thus making further movement after the attack impossible. The strictest ruling would be if you don't announce anything in hand, you don't have anything in hand. This ruling, I'd like a second opinion on, before setting it in stone and rewinding a match, as it does set a rather large precedent for future matches.
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2008-03-20, 07:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
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The above is ratified. As for the status conditions... well... I think that may be going a bit overboard, since most participants don't build for multi-weapon type combat. Most players will go for batman, shooty or melee. It's not my place to decide, but whatever.
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2008-03-21, 12:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
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As the posting of items in hand isn't, as yet, required, and the opponent didn't ask for the information, match will be rewound to the start of Stonefist's last round, to correct the charge. Sling attack stands.
Play continues from that point. Stonefist, you may continue when ready.
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2008-03-21, 02:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
WhileI am waiting for your redo of the turn,I was studying the mountain rage and I found something:
Originally Posted by Mountain rage description
Edit: scratch that, your racial traits let you wield large weapons.Last edited by Bayar; 2008-03-21 at 02:14 AM.
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2008-03-21, 02:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
Uff i was pretty sure my action was totally correct
Redoing it:
Free action:
Rage, position changes from N7 to N7-O8
Move action:
Move to Q12-R13
Standard action:
Strike you:
To_Hit: - (1d20+8)[21]
If treath:
Confirm: - (1d20+8)[25]
If hits:
Damage: - (3d6+10)[18]
If Crits add:
Critical: - (3d6+10)[19]
Basically same action as before, but i lose the +2 charge bonus
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2008-03-21, 04:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Arena Tournament, Round 33: Kor vs Stonefist
High Ref Talic
Kor is currently benefitting from cover. (Choosing square R13, using bottom right corner of that square, and drawing lines to each corner of Q15. Bottom right of R13 to top left of Q15 crosses a pane of glass. Thus, opponent has cover, and gains +4 AC)
That said, a 21 to hit should hit anyway. And the 18 damage should be enough to put Kor into the negatives. Unless there are any rules issues I missed...
Stonefist is declared the victor and receives the prizes noted above.