Arena Tournament, Round 35: Krux vs Chile III

[chilepepper]

Okay, to recap, again. You and horse are in A15/16. You're unconscious in the saddle. I'm in A17. The smoke is in A17/16/15/14 and in the B line, it'll dissipate at the start of my next turn. You and horse will need to roll saves again in 9 and 10 rounds from now, if we get there.

I'll attack your mount.
Move action: Load sling

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and reallocate law devotion to attack

Standard action: Attack Defensively
(1d20+5)[21] vs AC 9 (-4 squeezing, no dex)
(1d3-1)[0] (min 1) + (1d6)[4] (feat) + (1d6)[4] (sneak)

Done

BTW, I just looked at your mounts stats on you character sheet. Light warhorses don't get max first die because they aren't PCs. The arena uses the average amount listed, so you mount has 22 hp.

edit: 9 damage
stats

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HP: 5
AC: 18 T16 F13
Ammunition: 18/20 bullets, 3/3 stones
Effects: Law Devotion 2/10 (attack)
Position: C11 > A16 > A17 > A17
Misc: Krux and mount secondary save for sleep smoke on round 13, 14

[Tortoise262]

Attack of Opportunity:
hoof: (1d20)[15]; [roll]1d4+3

Horse has 12/21 hp

MY TURN:
FULL ATTACK

hoof1: (1d20)[15]; [roll]1d4+3
hoof2: (1d20)[9]; [roll]1d4+3
bite: (1d20-5)[7]; (1d3+1)[3]

EDIT: I messed up the damage rolls, but I don't think it matters.

[chilepepper]

SRD

If You Are Dropped

If you are knocked unconscious, you have a 50% chance to stay in the saddle (or 75% if you’re in a military saddle). Otherwise you fall and take 1d6 points of damage.

Without you to guide it, your mount avoids combat.

You'll have to redo your turn.

[chilepepper]

GM Kyeudo

The {mount} will simply act to get as far away from attackers as possible until it either falls asleep or his rider wakes up. It's actualy called out in the rules that if you become unconcious, your mount avoids combat. Since your mount can't open doors, it can't leave the arena, and so you won't end up DQed by a ring out.

As long as {you} follows the simple guideline of "as far away from any attackers as possible" I see no need for a ref to control the {mount}.

Here's the ruling precedent that says you can dictate the mounts movement so long as you follow those guidelines. The mount can move, double move, or run; but it can't attack.

[Tortoise262]

Move: move to J13-K14
Standard: take total defense

[Talic]

High Ref Talic

Well, seems like I got here late for the party. Looks like everything resolved itself.

[chilepepper]

Sorry, I called for a ref to rule on whether a mount can take total defense, but my first posting got eaten. Taking total defense means actively defending yourself in combat, that seems to go against "avoiding combat". Secondly, with animal intelligence, it'd need a handle animal check, but the rider is unconscious.

[Talic]

High Ref Talic

Ah, there was a question. Ok then, looking up Total Defense.

You can defend yourself as a standard action. You get a +4 dodge bonus to your AC for 1 round. Your AC improves at the start of this action. You can’t combine total defense with fighting defensively or with the benefit of the Combat Expertise feat (since both of those require you to declare an attack or full attack). You can’t make attacks of opportunity while using total defense.

I'd say running away, and trying to dodge attacks as best it can qualifies as avoiding combat. If you'd care to dispute that, by all means, but it sounds legit to me.

[chilepepper]

I'm still going to say that taking an active defence constitutes taking part in combat as opposed to avoiding it. I'll call for Kyeudo for the final say. In the mean time, I have no problem letting it work.

As you're unconscious and out of LoS, I'll spoiler.

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Move action: pick up the Oil of Magic Stone
Standard Action: Apply to the three stones

Done. Your horse sees nothing during my turn. If it still tries to get further away from my last known position, that's fine. Also, I don't have LoS, so you can spoiler your next move if you want.

[Kyeudo]

GM Kyeudo

If the rider was concious, Full Defense would be valid with the appropriate Handle Animal check. Since he's not, the mount flees to the best of its ability, unless something else further overrides the situation.

[chilepepper]

Krux, if you want to change the move to K14 to a double move, that's fine. Either way, go ahead and take your next move as well.

[Talic]

High Ref Talic

Chile III is the victor!

[Tortoise262]

Okay, I'll change to double move, heading off down 13/14, and on the next turn the horse...

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double move again, ending in the hay in U18-V19... not sure if a hide check applies, but in case it does...

HIDE (1d20+2)[16]
(+1 DEX, -4 SIZE, +5 HAY)

Spot: (1d20+4)[7]

The horse will remain here until LoS is established

You may go.

[Talic]

Tortoise, the match was called by DQ, based on the fact that players have 2 days to post.

[Tortoise262]

Oh wow, sorry I didn't see that. I think I had the window open for a day before I posted, lol