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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    alchemist spark and alchemist frost? that's eberron right? what are the details on it? i didn't buy any of that, and it does more damage than the acid : )

    good to have lots of choices too
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    Yeah, Eberron Core Sourcebook. Just a straight 1d8 damage of electric or cold... thought it was more interesting than acid flasks. :)

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    hrm.. splash damage and everything?
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    Hmm, I'd have to check into the splash damage. I'm not 100% sure and I'm at work right now, so my books arent around.

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    I'm an unstoppable LoS god!

    Able to LoS whole matches in a single bound!

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    You spot nobody. You clank over to U9, and still see nobody.
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    so am i to assume i have LOS on him and can read his spoilers?
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    so am i to assume i have LOS on him and can read his spoilers?
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    Yeah, you see him clunk over and jump into U9.
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    appearing in T13, with two flasks coming at you

    alchemist fire
    attack - (1d20+7)[19] Vs. AC 15, 5 normal, +1 pb, +1 higher ground
    damage - (3d6+1)[10] 1d6 fire, 2d6 sneak, 1 pb

    if it misses
    direction - (1d8)[8] 1 being north and clockwise from there
    distance - (1d6)[6] if it's 1 you take a point of slash]

    acid flask
    attack - (1d20+7)[15] Vs. AC 15, 5 normal, +1 pb, +1 higher ground
    damage - (1d6+1)[3] 1d6 acid, 1 pb

    if it misses
    direction - (1d8)[2] 1 being north and clockwise from there
    distance - (1d6)[2] if it's 1 you take a point of slash]

    so 13 points total done to you : )

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    How do you throw both AND do a move action?

    Oh, and Light Fortification roll... 25% or below and sneak attack is negated.

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    well, that's your not quite sure about : ) but it's legal : )

    don't forget, if you don't take your action to put out the flames, you take antoher 1d6
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    If you still have LoS, read the spoiler.

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    Free Action: Drop Javelin
    Move Action: Draw potion of Repair Light Wounds
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    round 7

    (1d6)[1] extra fire damage
    edit: bah what a roll

    hrm.. well seeing that you didn't come up to see me, i guess i gotta head back towards you.

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    since i currently have cover/concealment from him (he can't see me) i will hide
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    staying in s14, i will draw a flask of alchemist fire


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    Move to S-10, pulling out a javelin on the move


    I am now on top of the hill at S-10, and I'm going to assume I have LoS to you, so ... I'm throwing a Javelin at you and hope it kills you now.

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    also, no, you don't have any LOS on me... so go ahead and take back that action... and redo it
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    I'm gonna get a ref to check, because unless you dropped down... I have to be able to see you.

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    Unless you've got Hide in Plain sight and I didnt notice it... or invisibility. Yeah, ref check.

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    if you don't have LOS to me, i am able to make a hide check and you can not see me then : )

    so since you couldn't see me b/c i backed out of your sight, i could hide and unless you are able to spot me you can't see me
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    Your hide check only applies if you have concealment or cover. Since you no longer have concealment or cover on top of the hill, its impossible to be hidden unless you have an ability that allows you to, such as Hide in Plain Sight.

    Also, you took a full round action to Rapid Shot me.

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    However, hiding immediately after a ranged attack (see Sniping, above) is a move action.
    You didn't have a move action available to hide.
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    You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check. Total cover or total concealment usually (but not always; see Special, below) obviates the need for a Hide check, since nothing can see you anyway.

    If people are observing you, even casually, you can’t hide. You can run around a corner or behind cover so that you’re out of sight and then hide, but the others then know at least where you went.
    from SRD , you only need cover or concealment to attempt the hide check, once i am hidden, you can not see me, w/o a spot check.

    therefor your throw of the javalin isn't valid.
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    there was a round after the attack, in which i had to move or hide.

    and as i said, hiding in plain sight is only if you are going to hide while being watched, i was not being watched, so i am invis. you can't see me w/o spot then
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    If your opponent moves in such a way that you no longer have the cover or concealment to hide, you are no longer hidden. This has been an arena rule since the first match.
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    that's not RAW, if you run behind a corner and hide, and then sneak back out, which i have seen done a few times in the arena, then your no longer hidden... that makes no sense...

    but ok, sure...

    ranged touch - (1d20+8)[25] vs AC16
    damage - (1d6+1)[6] fire damage

    if it misses
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    ref chilepepper

    What I've seen done (and done myself) is to move so that LoS is completely broken, then move back to the square that grants cover. By breaking LoS completely, you get by the "being observed" part. If you move to a square that has no cover or concealment, there's nothing to hide behind.
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    Doesn't matter, that 6 damage drops me to -2 :)

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    good game bud, sneakies can be hard to beat, but you almost got me, if you didn't roll a 2 on a d6 : )
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    Very good match, indeed. Not the best map for someone with 20' move and a poor swim check

    Congrats on your win... I look forward to seeing you again in the finals.

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    High Ref Morbius

    stupnick just a tip... AFAIK high ground only provides a bonus to melee attacks, not ranged ones also...


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    Wait. If he doesnt get that +1 for higher ground, that second attack of the rapid shot misses, as my Flat Footed Touch AC is 15 (the number he hit). That would leave me at 1 HP.

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    High ref Morbius


    Actually no... your flatfooted touch AC is 10 + shield bonus(3)= 13.
    You don't gain 1 from dex as you were flat footed and the other AC point I don't know where you took it from.

    EDIT: Oh, stance of clarity... I don't have TOB with me now but don't you also lose a stance benefict when you are flat footed?
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 40: The Unstoppable Force vs. Jaras

    Stance of Clarity, which I activated on my first turn. I gain +2 AC vs one target (Jaras), and -2 AC vs all others.

    So, 10 + 3 (shield) + 2 (Stance) = 15

    He missed.
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