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    I wish I wouldve seen this before I left for work... I wouldve built a Ranger with the Arcane Favored Enemy from Complete Mage...

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    Dragonborn (Wings) Fire Elf Ranger 2/Targetteer 2/Warblade 6/Eternal Blade 10

    BAB: 20/15/10/5
    HP: 8+12d10+6d12+1d8+140 = 226
    AC: 10 + 10 Dex + 6 armor + 6 shield + 3 deflection + 1 insight = 36
    Touch AC: 10 + 10 dex + 5 armor + 4 shield + 3 deflection + 1 insight = 33
    Speed: 30', Fly 30'
    Initiative: 10+2+7 = +19

    Base saves
    Fort: 18
    Ref: 8
    Will: 5

    Str: 16 (22)
    Dex: 16 (30)
    Con: 14 (22)
    Int: 16 (20)
    Wis: 8
    Cha: 6

    Flaws:
    Murky-Eyed
    Inattentive

    Feats:
    F) Knowledge Devotion
    F) Precise Shot
    1) Point Blank Shot
    R) Rapid Shot
    T) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Greatbow, Harpoon (Vital Aim as ability)
    3) Weapon Focus: Greatbow
    T) Hail of Arrows
    6) Mage Slayer
    W) Blind-Fight
    9) Pierce Magical Concealment
    12) Power Attack
    15) Woodland Archer
    18) Martial Stance: Stance of Alacrity

    Skill ranks:
    5 Balance
    1 Knowledge (Arcana)
    23 Knowledge (Local)
    23 Spot
    23 Concentration
    5 Jump
    13 Tumble
    11 Climb
    5 Hide
    2 Move Silently

    Clarity of Vision
    Back on your Feet

    Stances:
    Blood in the Water
    Absolute Steel Stance
    Hearing the Air
    Stance of Alacrity (on at the start)

    Maneuvers:
    Mountain Hammer
    Wall of Blades
    Moment of Perfect Mind
    Iron Heart Surge
    Iron Heart Endurance
    Mind over Body
    Douse the Flames
    White Raven Tactics
    Quicksilver Motion
    Diamond Defense
    Time Stands Still

    Class Features:
    Ranger - Favoured Enemy: Arcanists, Spiritual Connection (CC), Track
    Targetteer - Vital Aim, Proficiencies: Longbow, Greatbow, Harpoon
    Warblade - Battle Clarity, Weapon Aptitude, Battle Ardor, Uncanny Dodge, Improved Uncanny Dodge
    Eternal Blade - Eternal Training 5/day, Eternal Knowledge (Arcana, The Planes, Nature, Dungeoneering, Religion), Defensive Insight, Tactical Insight, Island in Time

    Equipment:
    Tome of Dex +3 82.5k
    Tome of Con +2 55k
    Splitting Force Elvencraft Composite Greatbow +1 72k
    Elvencraft Hank's Bow 22.9k
    1 Elvencraft Mw. Composite Greatbow (+6) 2k
    1 Elvencraft Mw. Composite Greatbow (+3) 1.4k
    Eager Greatsword of Warning +1 16.3k
    50 +1 Magebane Arrows 8.3k
    200 Mundane Arrows 20gp
    200 Blunt Arrows 20gp
    Chronocharm of the Grand Master .5k
    Chronocharm of the Horizon Walker .5k
    Cloak of Resistance +5 25k
    Quiver of Ehlonna 1.8k
    Ring of Mental Fortitude 110k
    Ring of Freedom of Movement and Deflection +3 58k
    Belt of Battle and Giant Strength +6 (as per MiC rules) 48k
    Thistledown Padded Ghost Ward Armor +5 36.7
    Animated Ghost Ward Mithril Heavy Steel Shield +4 65.2k
    Gloves of Dexterity +6 36k
    Headband of Intellect +4 16k
    Vest of Constitution +6 36k
    Blindfold of True Darkness 9k
    Boots of Speed 12k
    Rod of Negation 37k
    Dusty Rose Ioun Stone 5k


    Spells on:
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    Spell Resistance


    Interesting. One who dares to fight, and invites death. I welcome your challenge, Mage. Let's see how this unfolds.

    Initiative:
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    EDIT: Starting at 18J.
    EDIT#2: I had to add flaws to the character to make it legal.
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    This is fun. The forum optimiza-monkeys should do this more often.
    You can call me Draz.
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    I say that the fight being here greatly benefits the caster. Everybdoy knows the dice roller hates players, so attacks will never hit, and saves will never be made, wich is a great advantage to the caster wich doesn't need to roll.

    And yes, we should do this more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solo View Post
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    How else are you going to grab him inside a dark sphere? We have to act now! We can't let him have more time!
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    All right. Do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oslecamo View Post
    I say that the fight being here greatly benefits the caster. Everybdoy knows the dice roller hates players, so attacks will never hit, and saves will never be made, wich is a great advantage to the caster wich doesn't need to roll.
    OOC: Saves aren't the problem, at least for me. My saves are in the 30s, and my Pride domain ability lets me re-roll 1s on saves. If I fail a save during this, my jaw will drop.


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    I'll honestly be surprised if you roll one. :)

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    (If I do this, then you can't move. You have to stay put and move after, to get him before his turn is up)

    The Hexadin walks up to the Magebeater and casts Daylight on him.

    Let there be LIGHT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talic View Post
    I'll honestly be surprised if you roll one. :)
    That's the problem.

    Okay, scrap the movement for this turn, just the readied action.


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    Initiative order:

    Turcano (acted) - In starting position
    Eldarial (up)
    Solo (will be daylighting, rather than moonlighting)
    Talic (will be what? you thought I'd give it away?? Heh.)
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    I'm pretty sure I can't move up 30 feet and cast as of now, so I'd like to just cast Daylight on the Monk and have him go in the sphere to whack you.

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    So the sphere of stone is from J3 to I2 to J1 to K2? How much HP does stone actually have? Anyways, first things first:

    Knowledge Devotion:
    (1d20+28)[42]

    Activate Boots of Speed, move out 40' forward to 10J and ready an action.

    EDIT: 42 means +5 vs. all humanoids to attacks and damage for this encounter.

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    Readied action will be an attack on mage, condition being when he starts casting a spell.


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    Stone has 15 hp per inch of thickness.

    Also, you need to define the readied action. If you'd like, you may spoiler it, and I shan't look inside, but it does need to be able to be verified in the event you take it.

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    Very well. This is hard, not just PMing the DM.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, I have an excess Swift Action. I'll use it for Defensive Insight on you, getting Int as Dodge-bonus to AC (+5).
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    Ok.

    As a side note, Turcano, in order to act prior to the mage, you must delay. That means the following: You get to act before the mage, and after Solo.
    Your initiative permanently changes to that point.

    As it sounds like that was the plan, I'll disregard the readied action, if that was your intent, and just put your turn after daylight from Solo hits you.

    Turcano: Delayed action in 18N, until after Solo casts. Last known position to mage: 18N (1 round previous)
    Eldariel: 10J readied action, spoilered in post 41. Last known position to mage: 18J (1 round previous).
    Solo: Moved to 18M, Casts Daylight on Turcano. Last known position to mage: 18F (1 round previous).

    Initiative order is now:

    Eldariel (acted)
    Solo (acted)
    Turcano (current turn)
    Mage

    Map effects: Stone dome, covering 1i-3i, 3J, 1k-3k, 10 foot elevation. Also covers 2J at an altitude of 10 feet, and likely covers 1J also, forming a completely solid dome around the wizard's starting area in 2J.

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    Alright. I'll carry out my original turn, this time moving to 7K, and ready an action (same as before).


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    You know what you are doing?

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    Mage's Turn:
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    Starting in 2J.

    Move: Draw Lesser Quicken Rod out of Handy haversack.
    Standard: Cast Ghostform (Level 8 spell)
    Swift: Cast Haste, quickened with Metamagic Rod.
    Free: 5' move, down, into floor.

    Active effects: Antimagic Field (1/2000)
    Haste (activated this round)
    Ghostform (activated this round)


    Map effects: Stone dome, 15 x 15, 10 feet high, centered on 2J.

    Mage done.
    Eldariel is up.

    Mage turn spoilered for spectators and to keep a legitimate accounting of actions taken.
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    I move next to the stone wall, does anything happen?

    We must break in if we are to kill him. We cannot let him sit there creating more defenses.
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    I charge 80 feet and power attack the wall that's directly in front of me and Turcano for all I'm worth, hoping to break it.

    Move out every mage-slayer!

    Attack: (1d20+7)[8] (Yes, PA for 20)
    Damage: (2d4+47)[49]

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    @Eldariel: No, nothing happens. Continue your turn. After whch, Solo's hit on the wall will deprive it of over half it's hp. (select square you're attacking, solo)

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    Antimagic Field is an emanation, emanations don't work on anything with total cover relative to the point of origin. Thus, even though the AMF has the range to affect them, the total cover generated by the wall of stone and such protects them from the effects of it. Thus, AMF is largely useless while I'm within the wall. Good tool for taking down any buffs for a Orb attack, though. I'll keep that one in mind. At least one of them's gotta have a greater blink on.
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    I hit K3 for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

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    See? You could have gotten in there and whacked him, thus giving us an important tactical advantage.

    In other words:

    YOU FOOL! YOU'VE KILLED US ALL!

    MORONS! I'M SURROUNDED BY MORONS!!!1!


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    I use Mountain Hammer (ignores Hardness) on 3J, using my Elvencraft Greatbow as a Quarterstaff wielded in 2 hands. Mountain Hammer + full PA (autohit on object, correct?):

    Damage:
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    Well, To Hit if need be:
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    3K (ground level) has taken 41 damage, after hardness. It has 34 HP remaining.
    3J (ground level) has taken 61 damage, ignoring hardness. It has 14 Hp remaining.

    Incidentally, that's the largest single melee hit I've seen with a bow.

    (incidentally, as best I know, lining up a hit as a full round action is an autohit on an object and helpless people. standard actions require rolls against AC 5 for things like floors and walls (it's not dodging anywhere).)

    If it was autohits on objects, nobody would hit their thumb on a hammer in D&D, and I refuse to accept such a suboptimally funny world.
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    I'll take Int to AC and end my turn.
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    Which puts it at Turcano's turn.

    Side note, I like how fast this is progressing.

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    I move to 5J and attack the stone wall at 3J, ignoring hardness.

    Attack: (1d20+27)[28]
    Damage: (2d4+9)[17]

    Edit: That's a whiff. Bugger.

    Also, I use my auravision. How many auras do I detect?

    OOC @ Solo: I always thought that you could only charge creatures, not objects.
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    ((you missed the wall! *dies*))

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    Urge to say "I told you so" rising!

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    Hey, that one's the house rule's fault, not mine.


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