A Game of Nations: World War 2

[thevorpalbunny]

Why did you only roll one air attack, Eldan? You get 4.

Still, FFF got filthy lucky.

[Fan]

So what exactly did I conquer?

[Eldan]

Right.
Three more air attacks:
(1d6)[3]
(1d6)[2]
(1d6)[1]

Hmm. Means I take down your bomber. Which doesn't change anything.

German Army:

TTTTFI

[Fan]

I still nuked you, although now I have to purchase a new bomber next turn. :(

[Eldan]

Hey, you killed 7 frikkin units while only losing a bomber.

[Fan]

true, it was well worth it, I'm not complaing.
So what exactly do I get with a leve 2 genral, a +2 stratagey bounus, but how many points do i get for ascending ot level 2?

[Eldan]

Hmm? You just get the +2 strategy, nothing else.

[Fan]

Ah, I see thats still a pretty awesome bonus, I just figured I would get some additional stratagey points per battle.

[thevorpalbunny]

You do. 2 extra because you have +2 to the roll used to determine strategy points. Did you even read the rules?

[Fan]

Yes, I did, I just had trouble understanding them.
It seemed pretty simple, till' everyone started doing this whole phase, by phase stuff, but I got it down pat now.

[Moody the Wise]

I declare the battle of the Ukraine null and void.

New turn right, well Here's wealth spending, and maunvers
[IMG] http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...9uieBAt_fs.jpg [/IMG]

3 units (Fighter, and 1 tanks, and 1 artillery)
Army 2
Wealth 2

The PanzerFuast (Western Eroupe)
Command rating: 0 Name: General Greig Rommel

Dig in (+1 to stratagems right?)
Units present:
4 tanks
1 infantry
1 fighter
1 bomber
and a artillery

Western Eruope:
Units present:
4 tanks
1 fighter
1 bomber
1 infantry
Manuevers:
Use my first move to enter Russian territory, and attack whatever forces, they had next to Ukraine. (I think that leaves me with 3 move on the bombers, and fighters, 1 move on the tank, and one move on infanry right?)

There's so much wrong with this post.

1) It's not a new turn; it's getting close to being the second movement phase within the first turn. There is no new spending right now.
2) Your first post was messed up, and you never fixed it.
3) You only have 15 units listed - the starting amount - and yet in this and your old, wrong post, you say you spent on units.
4) You have wealth 6, and this spending amounts to 7.
5) In neither of these posts did you spend twice on military. Ergo, your Military stat is NOT 7, and the attack can't have happened as it just did.
6) It's unfair for you to make up your mind about a real first turn status post now, after the battle has happened, and make the changes that would give the optimal results based on the way the battle happened (i.e. removing the units that rolled poorly).

So, I'm not Wizard, and maybe he'll say differently later, but I call this whole battle bulls**t, and I want to see a correct first post from Germany before he attacks anyone else.

[Fan]

I have units listed, by army, I MEANT millitary, its the same bloddy thing in my book, so please no rules lawyering/ being a jerk over wording.
Army of CORUSE meant millitary.
Also dont be such an ass, the battle was fine, and my additonal point of wealth that you mentioned went towards my additional destroyer, in the fleet of the nazis, which BTW is PATHETICLY SMALL.
And I NEVER removed ANY unis, and in fact i'am some units BEHIND, which I'll put into my newly aquaired territories.

[Moody the Wise]

I have units listed, by army, I MEANT millitary, its the same bloddy thing in my book, so please no rules lawyering/ being a jerk over wording.
Army of CORUSE meant millitary.
Also dont be such an ass, the battle was fine, and my additonal point of wealth that you mentioned went towards my additional destroyer, in the fleet of the nazis, which BTW is PATHETICLY SMALL.

And with your 2 spending on military, that raises your military stat to 6. Every 2 points spent is a +1 increase in the stat.

I'm not sure what you mean by the second half of this post. I'm trying to tell you that that extra point of wealth doesn't exist ...

You can sit here and call me names all you want. It won't change anything. I don't care if you think I'm a rules-lawyer; we're in a playtest, the purpose of which is to thoroughly test the rules. If you're not interested in this, maybe you should reconsider your position here.

[Wizard of the Coat]

-=Pauzing game=-

Don't make any changes to post for a while, whilst I sort things out to see what happened.

-=Unpauzing game=-

See the OOC thread for details on the GM resolution.

Soviet-German battles are turned back (did not occur)

German national stats:

Strength:19 units in total
Military rating: 6
Wealth Rating: 6 (1 west, 1 scandinavia 4 germany)

East Europe "Army Group North
Army 1a:
2 Tanks
1 Infantry

Army 1b: (luftwaffe)
1 Fighter
2 Bomber

Ukraine "Army group south"
1 Infantry
1 Tanks
1 Artillery

Germany "Luftwaffe SS"
1 Bomber
1 Fighter

West Europe "Atlantic Wall"
2 Infantry
1 Artillery

East Atlantic "Submarine Fleet"
5 Destroyers
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[Wizard of the Coat]

German military moves:

Submarine fleet (E ATL): DDDDD => Hidden move

Army Group North (EU) TTIFBB => (NOV) and attack Russian TIABF (1d6)[2]
Strategies:
+1: Offensive Plan: Russian Fighter
+2: Precision Bombardment: enemy bomber
+3: Tank Push
+4: Tank Push, Offensive Plan: Russian Fighter
+5: First strike

"Army group north has launched an offensive upon Novogrod"

[Eldan]

Strategy Roll for Novgorod:
(1d6+1)[5]

Advantage 1: Offensive Planning Fighter
Advantage 2: Offensive Planning Fighter, Defensive Planning Bomber
Advantage 3: Mislead Tanks
Advantage 4: Offensive Planning Fighter, Mislead Tanks
Advantage 5: Blitzkrieg

[Eldan]

Battle for Novgorod: Air Phase

Germany: IF ==> 3 attacks
(3d6)[6][1][2](9)

Russia: IAF ==> 4 attacks
(4d6)[1][5][2][6](14)

Results: 2 hits each.
Germany loses FB
Russia loses FB

[Eldan]

Battle for Novgorod: Indirect Phase
Germany has: B ==> 2 attacks
(2d6)[3][1](4)

Russia has: A ==> 1 attack
(1d6)[2]

Results: 1 hit each.
Germany has: T*TIB
Russia has: T*IA

[Eldan]

Battle for Novgorod: Direct Phase

Germany has: IB ==> 2 attacks
(2d6)[2][6](8)

Russia has: T*IA: ==> 4 attacks
(4d6)[2][1][4][5](12)

Results:
Germany 1 hit, Russia 2 hits.

Germany has: T*IB
Russia has: IA

[Eldan]

Battle for Novgorod: Close Phase

Germany has: T*I ==> 2 attacks
(2d6)[4][1](5)

Russia has: I ==> 1 attack
(1d6)[3]

Result: Germany gets 1 hit in.

Final Results:
Germany has: TIB, 3 units destroyed ==> Level up
Russia has: IA, 3 units destroyed ==> Level up

German forces run into heavy resistance at the russian border. Both sides suffer heavy losses while the russians try to dig in deeper.

[Eldan]

Battle for Novgorod: Reinforcements arrive

Land Forces TTIA (CAU) ==> (NOV) attack Germans

Strategy Roll: (1d6)[3]

Strategy:
1: Offensive Planning: Bomber
2: Offensive Planning: Bomber, Defensive Planning Tank
3: Tank Push
4: Tank Push, offensive Planning: Bomber

[Wizard of the Coat]

Luftwaffe SS (GER) FB => EU => NOV, merge with TIB to form TIFBB


If no-one makes further moves I declare Movement Phase 2 is now official never mind...simultaneous post

Still let's see if reinforcing works (I now have to roll an intercept check)

[Eldan]

Hmm. If it's TIFBB, I would just reinforce as well, instead of attack.

Edit: Of course, I can't. Army size limit.

[Wizard of the Coat]

Interception: (1d6+7)[12] has to beat a 9 (3 from rol + 6 strategic manouvring)

Strategy roll: (1d6+1)[3] (remember if the intecept is succesfull the armies are merged and the better commander takes over...I'll write strategies later depending on the succes of the intercept)

((Also I'll probably order my ukrainian forces to invade the causassus after this battle. ))

[Wizard of the Coat]

Strategies not needed!
TTIA vs TIFBB

AIR
Russia (2d6)[4][4](8)
Germany (3d6)[2][2][4](8) (irrelevant)


Indirect
Russia (1d6)[4](4)
Germany (4d6)[2][5][1][3](11)

Result: Russia T*T*IA / Germany TIFBB

Direct
Russia (6d6)[4][5][5][6][1][1](22)
Germany (5d6)[3][6][2][5][6](22)

Result: Russia T*IA / Germany T*I*FBB

Close
Russia (3d6)[1][3][1](5) last one negated
Germany (2d6)[5][4](9)

Result: Russia T*IA / Germany I*FBB

"German and Russian forces continue to battle things out around Novogrod, fierce armor battles are littering the ground with burned out tanks"

"Army Group North" (Cau): IFBB (rank 1 /4 XP)
Russia Forces: TIA (rank 0/1 XP) and IA (rank 1/3 XP)

(note if you combine them you can place the other commander in command of a different army or hold him in reserve)

"Army Group South" (UKR) TIA => (CAU)

"German forces have broken through at Stalingrad and are pushing into the Caucassus"


((note that the turn has not ended, merely a new movement phase will happen, so you can take back territories that seem conquered))
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MOVEMENT PHASE 2 STARTS (unless there are objections)

Reveal hidden moves:

"Submarine Fleet" is in (E ATL) ((OOC: it made a false move))

"Submarine Fleet" (E ATL): DDDDD => Hidden move ((OOC: I expect this to be the common way of using hidden troops, as is intended, essentially they are not easily found or attacked...probably I'll allow espionage actions to 'force revelations'))

(as a GM I'll not make attack moves for a while (near of phase only)unless some-one actively is telling me to do so...doesn't seem fair otherwise as I'd always take the first set of moves.)

[Moody the Wise]

US Admirals Chase Down Japanese Fleet in Midway

5 Destroyers from PAC move to MID. A new unit forms, with the 2-star commander leading 5 Destroyers in an attack on JAP S C. They can't outmaneuver the Destroyers, so I'll roll strategy for both sides.

US Strategy: (1d6+3)[8] ((+1 for leftover movement, +2 commander rating))
JAP Strategy: (1d6+1)[2] ((+1 for not having moved during the phase))

[Moody the Wise]

Battle in Midway

US: DDDDD
JAP: S C

US won Strategy roll by margin of 6
Strategies used:
Defensive Planning: Destroyer
First Strike ((In each phase those enemy units that were successfully hit have their attacks negated for that phase.))

AIR: US: No attacks.
AIR: JAP: No targets.

INDIRECT: US: No attacks.
INDIRECT: JAP: (1d6)[5] ((miss))

DIRECT: US: (5d6)[6][2][2][3][3](16) ((2 hits))
DIRECT: JAP: (2d6)[1][1](2) ((2 hits; hits negated because of first strike))

RESULT: US: DDDDD
JAP: S* C*

CLOSE: US: (10d6)[1][4][3][1][3][4][3][3][6][1](29) ((3 hits))
CLOSE: JAP: (2d6)[5][5](10)

RESULT: US: DDDDD
JAP: -

US Commander gains 2 XP, for a total of 8.

[thevorpalbunny]

British Movement Phase 2

Army of the Middle East (Cmdr 0) TAI (ME) => (TUR)

Army of India (Cmdr 2, 5 XP) TAIF (VIET):
Indian Strike Force (Cmdr 0) TF => (KOR)
Army of India (Cmdr 2, 5 XP) AI attacks (CHIN)

Indian Fleet SC (VIET):
Pacific Fleet S => (YAN)
Indian Fleet C => (HOLD)

British Home Fleet, RAF, Army of England (BI) => (HOLD)
Those are DSS, BBF, and II, all Cmdr 0

[Moody the Wise]

My F (SUM) would like to join with England's attack on China.

[Nerd-o-rama]

In each phase those enemy units that were successfully hit have their attacks negated for that phase.

Rule commentary: the intent of this seems to be that the units that were destroyed have their attacks negated. Not asking for a retcon, but consider rewording the rule.

Empire of Japan Movement Phase 2

Imperial Japanese Army - First Group (JAP)
(Command Rating: 0 XP: 0)
I

Hold

Imperial Japanese Army - Second Group (YAK)
(Command Rating: 0 XP: 1)
I

Hold/Engage Russian army in YAK
Maneuvering - (1d6+1)[5] (if USSR tries to escape)
Strategy - (1d6+1)[5] (if USSR does not successfully escape)

Imperial Japanese Army - Third Group (CHIN)
(Command Rating: 0 XP: 0)
TI

Move to TIB

Imperial Japanese Navy - Yamato Group (FIL)
(Command Rating: 0 XP: 1)
SDDCFB

Land bombardment of FIL (Air and Indirect attack only)
I'm not positive how strategic maneuvering would work here, but just in case:
Maneuvering - (1d6+6)[9]
Strategy - (1d6+1)[3]