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    Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

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    I currently have no purchases, though that might change depending on if you buy anything.



    Initiative - (1d20-6)[-2]


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    Location - Y10/Z11
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

    I guess I go first (my modifier is actually positive).

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    start in B10 with a potion in one hand and a dagger in the other, double move to K6, hiding: (1d20+10)[17]


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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Hughes - Round 1 (start)

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    Ride Check to Guild with Knees - (1d20+2)[3] - DC5

    Free Action: Activate Divine Spellpower by spending a Turning Check (gain +3 bonus to check)
    (1d20+5)[20]


    Turn Not Over...

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    Hughes - Round 1 (cont)

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    So I have to keep one hand on the reins, but I can still cast spells with my other hand.

    I will spend 5 more Turn Undeads to Cast Shield as a Swift Action.
    Shield is cast at a +5 CL and will last for 60 rounds.

    As a Free Action: I will again Activate Divine Spell Power using a Turning.

    (1d20+5)[15]


    Still not Done.

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    Hughes - Round 1 (conclusion)

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    Standard Action: Cast Shield of Faith at +2 CL. Shield of Faith will Last for 30 Rounds.

    Move Action: Guide the Horse to S4/T5.


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    High Ref Morbius

    LOS stablished

    Hughes is on his horse on S4/T5, nothing on his hands.


    Little Knife Guy is on K6 with a vial in one hand and a dagger in the other.

    LKG is up.
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

    Well then.....

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    activate Travel Devotion.....I want to take him out without using a potion if possible


    You see me move towards the cliff and then fall off, at N6. There I believe you lose LoS, since there is a 10'cliff in the way.

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    I shouldn't take damage since it's an 8.75' drop 9I believe....are the N and M lines the min/max, or is it the junction? If it's the junction, it's a 7.5' drop), but just in case: (1d20+11)[17] to reduce falling damage (tumble). I continue moving to P8 hiding: (1d20+10)[13] including the -5, and ready an action to throw a dagger if he comes within 20' of me. I don't think I have LoS, since the wall is 5+' right next to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Spot Check for Hughes:(1d20+3)[20]

    Hughes has LoS because he is riding a horse, making him effectively a large creature for the purpose of LoS. LKG is in P8, and has a readied action, but he also has cover.
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

    Can I get the point at which he can see me? Cause that would change my plans.

    Unless he wants to try and bluff that he can't see me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    I'd have to say that you are barely just in his LoS when you step into P8. Hard to tell without a three dimensional model.

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    Wasn't somebody doing that a little bit ago (3D models of the maps)? Anyways....dang. Let's just go with the P8 one for now. I'll return later with my amended actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

    Okay, as soon as you see me appear in P8, I turn right back around and head back into the shadows of the cliff.

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    I move back to....well.....I'd like to go to M6 because it's 15' (half movement for hiding), but I'm not sure if it's a platform or if there's a space underneath it. It looks like it's going from the top to that center area...this map confuses me. hide: (1d20+15)[23]


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    @dman - which direction is right? East?

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    1st: bridges, not solid walls.

    That said, the square you want to move to (M6) is pretty well filled with lava. There's a bit of land there, but the following text would apply:
    Quote Originally Posted by SRD, Squeezing
    Squeezing

    In some cases, you may have to squeeze into or through an area that isn’t as wide as the space you take up. You can squeeze through or into a space that is at least half as wide as your normal space. Each move into or through a narrow space counts as if it were 2 squares, and while squeezed in a narrow space you take a -4 penalty on attack rolls and a -4 penalty to AC.

    When a Large creature (which normally takes up four squares) squeezes into a space that’s one square wide, the creature’s miniature figure occupies two squares, centered on the line between the two squares. For a bigger creature, center the creature likewise in the area it squeezes into.

    A creature can squeeze past an opponent while moving but it can’t end its movement in an occupied square.

    To squeeze through or into a space less than half your space’s width, you must use the Escape Artist skill. You can’t attack while using Escape Artist to squeeze through or into a narrow space, you take a -4 penalty to AC, and you lose any Dexterity bonus to AC.
    Based on this, do your actions still stand?


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    Hold please, sorting something out.


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    Calling attention to:
    Quote Originally Posted by SRD, Heat dangers
    Heat Dangers

    Heat deals nonlethal damage that cannot be recovered until the character gets cooled off (reaches shade, survives until nightfall, gets doused in water, is targeted by endure elements, and so forth). Once rendered unconscious through the accumulation of nonlethal damage, the character begins to take lethal damage at the same rate.

    A character in very hot conditions (above 90° F) must make a Fortitude saving throw each hour (DC 15, +1 for each previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage. Characters wearing heavy clothing or armor of any sort take a -4 penalty on their saves. A character with the Survival skill may receive a bonus on this saving throw and may be able to apply this bonus to other characters as well. Characters reduced to unconsciousness begin taking lethal damage (1d4 points per hour).

    In severe heat (above 110° F), a character must make a Fortitude save once every 10 minutes (DC 15, +1 for each previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage. Characters wearing heavy clothing or armor of any sort take a -4 penalty on their saves. A character with the Survival skill may receive a bonus on this saving throw and may be able to apply this bonus to other characters as well. Characters reduced to unconsciousness begin taking lethal damage (1d4 points per each 10-minute period).

    A character who takes any nonlethal damage from heat exposure now suffers from heatstroke and is fatigued.

    These penalties end when the character recovers the nonlethal damage she took from the heat.

    Extreme heat (air temperature over 140° F, fire, boiling water, lava) deals lethal damage. Breathing air in these temperatures deals 1d6 points of damage per minute (no save). In addition, a character must make a Fortitude save every 5 minutes (DC 15, +1 per previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage. Those wearing heavy clothing or any sort of armor take a -4 penalty on their saves. In addition, those wearing metal armor or coming into contact with very hot metal are affected as if by a heat metal spell.

    Boiling water deals 1d6 points of scalding damage, unless the character is fully immersed, in which case it deals 10d6 points of damage per round of exposure.
    Relevant section bolded, underlined. Would being 5 feet from lava create such air temperatures?

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    If being within 5 ft of the lava does create a heat danger, we should add it to the map image so it's not a surprise on the players' end.

    That said, we could kill catgirls by determining the heat diffusion into the air from the lava, or just say yes (my choice), it does create a heat danger. Relevant checks will be made at the end of each minute exposed. Further, allow LKG to rewind his turn if it affects him.

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    I'm leaning towards:
    No, it's not in the map details.
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    Really? Cause all I see in M6 is a tiny bit of land on the N side, with an even smaller bit of lava (down "south"), but most of it is covered by bridge graphics. If I will be squeezing, my actions will still stand, as I don't plan on attacking or being attacked from that square, I just wanted to be hidden. Circumstances may change this, but I hope not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    It's not listed as a map feature, so it doesn't exist. Convection Schmonvection

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    So is it my turn, or is there still something to be answered?

    And if it is my turn, what's the status of the LoS?

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    Seeing as Kyeudo has ruled on the situation, you may continue.

    LoS in a sec.

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    Opponent is in S4/T5


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    Opponent disappears from LoS, travelling west (left).
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    sooooo......what was the answer?

    Also, it would be good to know when he can see me when you give me LoS checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    What's the last square I see him in?

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    You're squeezing, and don't have to worry about superheated air in the area.


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    LoS is lost as LKG enters 08


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    Are characters able to tell if opponents can see them?
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    Hughes - Round 2

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    Ride Check to guide w/ knees
    Ride - (1d20+2)[12] - DC 5

    Spend a Turn to use Divine Spellpower.

    Turn - (1d20+5)[10] - Meh.

    Guide my horse to U11/12 with my knees, drawing my greatsword as I go.


    End my Turn.

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    HP: 9/9
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    Level 0 - Virtue, Guidance, Guidance
    Level 1 - Shield of Faith-x, Shield-x, Magic Weapon (D)
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    Okay then:

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    Move to R8 while hiding (swift action move): (1d20+10)[27]

    LoS needed to finish.


    Turn not over, need LoS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    You are listed as occupying a 5x10 block. Your space should be 10x10. Is your original post correct, or are you Squeezing, per SRD squeezing rules?


    Need clarification before LOS.

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    Since there is discussion, I might as well ask: superheated air

    Also, is this current discussion LoS related, or heat related? Or blue-furred space hamster related?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Hughes vs. Little Knife Guy

    DMan: The issue I brought up is resolved; the other issue (obviously) involves your opponent.

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