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2008-10-15, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
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2008-10-15, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Invisible Hex-barrier where Jillian crashes against? Nice effect! :)
And: looks like the dragons did not go down that easy!Deorum offensae diis curae.
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2008-10-15, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Why so angry, my man?
EDIT: Heh. Hex-barrier. Nice touch.
Also: veils can't make it past the hex they are cast in?Last edited by The Rose Dragon; 2008-10-15 at 11:59 AM.
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2008-10-15, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Tool took his time working out that Jack was- in fact- called Jack. Like the foolamancy smarts of disguising Stanley's dwagon as a cloud of doombats...
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2008-10-15, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
WoA... that was cool... erfworld slowly becomes my main reson for visiting this site, overtaking oots... (although thats probably mostly because the endless filler on oots gets boring)
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2008-10-15, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
So a barrier, for the hex border, what does it all stop? And why did tool abandon the dwagons? I think the dwagon roost theory may be all to right...
And I guess tool's dwagon didn't actually go down that hard.
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2008-10-15, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
so, big bad dwagon didn't croaked that easily after all.
And Jack did cast immediately he got back on his senses.
edit: re-reading last strip i found funny how many times Jillian yelled 'Jack'Last edited by PePe QuiCoSE; 2008-10-15 at 12:09 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
YES! So, one new rule is exposed: in your turn you can leave a battle by moving through the hex, while others can't - because it's not their turn!
One-new-rule-dance!
Now, to put that illusion, Jack must be VERY good at his magic field. He actually created the illusion of himself casting an illusion!Last edited by Laurentio II; 2008-10-15 at 12:09 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Hey! People with a sense of direction: Julian just said the Tool was heading east. Is that towards FAQ (as the Tool wants) or is that towards Knob (as Parson wants)? Trying to see who Jack is obeying...
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2008-10-15, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
very nice. I like it.
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2008-10-15, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
So much for the dwagon going down easy. It must have survived the stabbity or Jillian would have noticed the difference (like Vinny's arm going through the fake dwagon).
Let's see here.... we now know that croaked fliers fall, and that Caesar survived (though scorched).
Wow, so much of the discussion on the last thread just got resolved in one swell foop.
Also, Jack is still calling Stanley 'Lord' instead of 'Tool'. Seems like he didn;t get the memo. Maggie did though. Whatcha wanna bet that she was hte dominant personality in the link? Either by the nature of a link or by her own selfish nature...
Didn't we know that already? How else could one 'punch through' an occupied hex?Last edited by fendrin; 2008-10-15 at 12:16 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Is things that bad?? Why the tool ditched his entire deck. I though tool was a good tactician.
Or is all of the dragon veiled too.
I wonder does Jillian's smooshed mount took any damage for ramming the barrier.
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2008-10-15, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
I was under the distinct impression that Faq was west of Gobwin Knob, though I can't recall any specific proof. Ergo, Stanley's abandoning the cut-off path to Faq and headed back to Gobwin Knob-perhaps he or Jack is wising up to Parson's mad skillz.
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2008-10-15, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
I wonder if any other dragons did or will make it through. The main focus was on Stanley, after all. Some certainly did go down, but conceivably not all of them.
Also interesting that saying 'Jack' via thinkagram didn't do the job, though some of his comments suggested some degree of improvement, possibly. There are a few possible explanations for that not working: thinkagram insufficiently direct, and having no clue who Parson is, and Parson speaking tentatively.
Also, Vinny is again the most observant one around. In a fair world, he'd go far.Last edited by drachefly; 2008-10-15 at 12:17 PM. Reason: I can spell.
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2008-10-15, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
My opinion: Jack didn't cast an illusion on himself (or Stanley), but casted a Distraction: the whole red Dwagon fight, the Stanley levitation and himself casting an invisibility veil. We know that he is a master in this, isn't?
The moment he left the hex, the Distraction is undone by the fact that the caster is no more present in the spell effect hex.
Or, Rule of Cool. Dwagons morphing through invisible barrier is 8.6 on Cool-Meter!
Don't underestimate the power of a conclusive proof for people that write rulesystems. There could be many rules on leaving a fight, all different from "You leave the battle field".
To say just a few, maybe you need a dice throw, or stay near the field limit for a fixed or random time before ending the fight (Final Fantasy, for example), or that you have to be faster that opponents, or you must take one full round of attacks, and that you are out no matter your speed.
Many, many different systems.
Mind that this rule is usable as a game breaker if enemies are defending near an hex's wall. You can enter, break immediately, heal in your hex (supposing you have healers), and attack again.Last edited by Laurentio II; 2008-10-15 at 12:24 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
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Due west is what Stanley says so.... you take it for what thats worth
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2008-10-15, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
It stops units with no move, or units who can't move out of the hex because it's not their turn (like Jillian). It looks like it may also break certain veils.
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2008-10-15, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
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2008-10-15, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
It looks nearly like a retcon, by I'm happy that Stanley's personal Dwagon isn't as fragile as it appeared in the previous strip.
In other, more disappointing news, the Transylvito warlady with the red shirt is still alive.Last edited by Gez; 2008-10-15 at 12:20 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Reading that strip, I'm left wondering what Jack's agenda was -- or maybe even is. How appropriate that an episode featuring a foolamancer reminds me of G'kar's observation that, "No one here is exactly as they seem."
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2008-10-15, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
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2008-10-15, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Damn, that was a crafty bit of Foolamancy on Jack's part. Creating an illusion of the mount dying and him and Stanley escaping.
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2008-10-15, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
You can say about Stanley what you wan't: He still got some nasty tricks up his sleeve. That kind of veil was just brilliant!
I'm sure he wouldn't abandon his stack so frivolously, if he wouldn't have a plan. Maybe there are some units in FAQ, that he can use immediatelly, once he gets there. Or FAQ has some defence the Alliance can't take with only their flying units. We shall see! Soon!
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2008-10-15, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-10-15, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
Now I realize that after the Tool beats Caesar, there was indeed an unengaged bat swarm just by the side of the dwagon! The whole fight of comic 126 was an illusion! Notice the dwagon now doesn't even have the armor crunched like in 126.
It probably works like in Warcraft III-dota, where illusions have a life of their own and still deal a fraction of the damage of the original unit. It doesn't only fool the eyes, but also feel and sound and everything else, so Jillian indeed tought she was stabing something.
Just like I predicted. Jack didn't want to fight Jillian, so he used his powers to stop their engagement.
As for the illusion ending when they exited the hex, it was probably because there was no use to keep it going, and it probably would drain
Now the big question is: how much of the dwagons fighting in the hex are nothing more than illusions and the bulk of the force actually sneaked out just under Jillian and Vinnie's eyes?
EDIT: I LOVE the look on that red dwagon's face as he exits the hex, as in:
Foolish human girl, you tought you had any chance against me?Last edited by Oslecamo; 2008-10-15 at 12:31 PM.
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2008-10-15, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld 127 The Battle for Gobwin Knob, Page 115
I'm sure Jack came up with that veil, rather than Stanley. Julian mentions he's VERY skilled at them.
Also... how is abandoning his stack, a bad tactical move on Stanley's part, given the situation. It got the result he wanted: escape from the hex. That's called a success.
People can come up with all sorts of "what if's" for Stanley to stay and the stack and escape... but it doesn't change the fact, that staying longer in the hex was VERY dangerous for the Tool. Sooner he got out of it, the better off he was.