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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoftyr View Post
    I have this suspicion that they'll have to take the curse off Belkar, only to have him die in the fighting heroically 'and somewhat uncharacteristically' defending Mr. Scruffy to the death.
    Speaking of which, where is Mr. Scruffy? He isn't seen at all in this script.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Argall View Post
    Lose this one, tho it does follow the principle noted, that Roy looks in at the crucial moment.

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    So maybe they have to de-curse Belkar so they have a chance of fighting their way out.
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    That was my initial thought, if only because the group needs to be at full-strength.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darkriku2000 View Post
    Haley pissed me off though, even Miko would have let him de-curse him... Ok, maybe that's saying a little too much, but any LEVEL HEADED person would understand that they need all the help they can get
    At the point Haley declined the curse removal, they didn't know they were going into a fight with the thieves' guild. She was probably planning to sneak into Toad Hall, take out the bone golem, resurrect Roy, and get out of there quick.

    That would have taken planning and discipline, which would have made a healthy Belkar a liability. Belkar would probably get bored half way through, set something on fire, and raise the alarms, possibly preventing them from even getting to the golem.

    Now that the thieves' guild is on them, the situation is different, but it's far from clear that Belkar would actually side with Haley rather than with the thieves' guild at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterDinadan View Post
    I find it slightly unusual that Haley chose Durkon of all people, given her connections to both V and Elan. However it is probably the best choice, given that Elan would probably screw up somehow and V (had he not already departed) would have been likely to try to go off and rescue them on his own rather than cooperating with the others.
    Durkon may not be easy to describe, but he's easily the most level-headed of the 3.

    Also, wasn't he with Roy the earliest? So that would make him the right contact by rank, also.
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    I wonder why Celia would interest Bozzak, or is it because she was involved in stealing from someone who paid full protection from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex-kat View Post
    He'll be in at least two. He has to die in one of them.
    Even though this is the logical assumption, Technically he could be killed off screen with some one describing how painful his death looked. lol however it is more likely that he will get more than one comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtg0922 View Post
    Great strip, and one of my favorites as of late!

    And I like this cleric - he's got Elan-like mastery of genre conventions, and he already delivered a great line ("I don't want to die, I've only been in one strip so far!").
    If he doesn't want to die, he should tell them his name.

    Oh, and BTW, I assume Haley chose Durkon for the contact because he's the one that can cast resurrection in something goes wrong with the priest of Loki.
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    I bet Belkar's regretting saving Haley's skin right about now.

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    nooooes! I liked pete. But I bet they're gonna stab him in the back. Literally or figuratively. Why? Because they can. Not that I'd bet a whole lot on it though...


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    Doubly spoiled b/c the Giant sometimes changes things just to go against predictions.
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    I really hope Belkar gets healed out of desperation now, followed by a sweet combat. And I really hope they don't just sneak away and leave him there to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest Fennac View Post
    It looks like they won't have much of a choice regarding curing Belkar. I wonder if the Cleric will be that useful? We know he's less then level 13.
    Yes, but not all of the Thieves Guild are necessarily at Haley's level. Crystal gets free XP for being Haley's rival, but the others don't. So it's possible that the cleric could be, say, level 10, and still be able to hold his own against other Guild members.

    And he might, out of desperation, decide to cut a deal with Belkar. "I cure you, you stab the guys trying to kill me."

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    I'm Guessing Rich houserules that the effects are a Curse, the Mark itself is not. the cleric can end effects, but without knowledge of password, cannot end Mark.
    I got the impression that the cleric was about to remove the MoJ until Haley stopped him. Maybe Shojo always used the same password for his Marks, and this cleric knows it.


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    Anyway, I'm kind of hoping we see Pete's double-cross become a triple-cross in a strip or two, but on the other hand, even with his eyes back he's probably not much of a combatant. Unless maybe he's made arrangements to depose Bozzok as leader of the Guild.

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    His name is eagle eyed Pete, or was. That means he was probably a sniper. That means sneak attack damage, which you also get on a flank. They heal his eyes, Belkar is healed, Pete attacks from behind, and mass death ensues. Or Pete just stays a double crosser and runs off, which would be more fitting, but sudden character change has its virtues. I'm not even sure how I would continue this one, so I can hardly make specific predictions.
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    I wouldn't consider it a sudden character change if Pete's double-cross of Haley turns out to actually be a triple-cross of Bozzok. I'd simply consider it...revenge. Pete's had decades of blindness because of Bozzok, and getting the eyes gouged out (twice) wouldn't have been pleasant either. I know I'd want some payback if an opportunity presented itself.

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    Has anyone else noticed that the Cleric looks suspiciously similar to Red Cloak? Y'know, black garb, golden amulet, red cloak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowDragoon View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that the Cleric looks suspiciously similar to Red Cloak? Y'know, black garb, golden amulet, red cloak?
    Ditto the cleric from the evil adventuring party that attacked the Greenhilts in Celestia.

    Why's it "suspicious" exactly?

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    Well, most characters in OotS usually have pretty original clothing. Now, we have a cleric walking around dressed exactly like another cleric. What I'm saying is, he looks too similar for it to be just a coincidence. Polymorph, perhaps? But then the question is raised: why would Red Cloak be helping the Order? Hmm........

    Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowDragoon View Post
    Well, most characters in OotS usually have pretty original clothing. Now, we have a cleric walking around dressed exactly like another cleric. What I'm saying is, he looks too similar for it to be just a coincidence. Polymorph, perhaps? But then the question is raised: why would Red Cloak be helping the Order? Hmm........

    Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
    Not "exactly" alike, actually. Redcloak's cloak (and the cloak of all (hob)goblin clerics we've seen) is visibly tattered, his armor doesn't have shoulder blades, and he doesn't wear boots. Also the center of his amulet is white (after the art upgrade), this guy's is red.

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    Maybe I'm looking to much into it, but I can't help but think that the clerics lines are a reference to the Character Appearance thread. He doesn't want to be an unnamed character appearing in only one strip.
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    The way Pete keeps referring to Haley as "Ian's girl" makes me wonder if there's some connection to Lord Tyrinar.
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    Really hope that cleric unleashes Belkar to save his own skin. Problem is the "release the really nasty fighter on the enemy when they have the rest of the team on the ropes" thing is really cliche, so I doubt it will happen. Still, I want my old school Belkar back.

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    I don't think Belkar will turn on Haley and Celia.

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    He's wanted for multiple murders in Greysky, and he was desperate to get out of town last time he was here.

    Thieves Guild or not, I doubt he'd want to hang around.

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    AFAIK "than" is used for comparison (... bigger than ...) while this sentence requires a "then" with an "e". (Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm NOT a native speaker.)
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    They'll probably heal Belkar to help in the fight, he'll see that they're on the losing side, so he'll side up with the Thieves' Guild. Totally in-character for him.

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    Ah, so that's where the "a" from Bozzok (formerly "Bozzak" in Origin) got off to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selene View Post
    I don't think Belkar will turn on Haley and Celia.
    Probably not right away. Those people busting down the door don't in the mood to offer him anything better than a quick death.
    Longer term: Well, the good news is that Belkar doesn't think long term and may forget their sin if he has a good fight first.

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    He's wanted for multiple murders in Greysky, and he was desperate to get out of town last time he was here.
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    The details are a bit vague, but it seems that Roy hires everybody in some hick town not far from Greysky and so Belkar is not wanted for murder in Greysky, at least not because of that incident.
    We are told Haley stayed out of Greysky, and Belkar is apparently still in the town where he had his fun. So the two would seem to be not far from Greysky, but not in it.

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    Poor Durkon, its not nice when all your primary characteristics are dwarf clichès.

    Why does that city reminds me a bit to Ankh-Morpork from the personality of its inhabitants, i mean from the opportunity taking point of view.
    But then again i wonder how any normal people can actualy live in that city considering that it doesn't look like anyone without a pc type of class might be able to survive in it till adulthood.

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    The Cleric's name is obviously Blackarmor... because he wears a red cloak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike62 View Post
    Who needs the Belkster, Haley and Celia? You are about to, when the Guild starts to lay a beat down on you.

    Huzzahs for a way to get the Belkster back in action, the #1 source of HUMOUR, in a comic (caps for all those who want him gone)
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    Celia's going to hover above the door and drop Belkar on them as they come in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus93 View Post
    Nice one, Giant. I always had a feeling that Pete would betray them. . . and I thought that the cleric of Loki was a Dwarf?
    It never said that in the comic, so why did you think that? Probably because everyone was saying that cleric of Loki = Hilgya, because apparently there's only one cleric of Loki in the world...

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    Personally im hoping he does come back, but for everyone screaming for it many of you will be screaming for him to be "justly punished for being a naughty naughty halfling" the second he starts killing random people again.

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